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Santi drifting also allows Monreal to overlap and get in behind anymore, same as Jenks does when Theo comes inside.
Do think the root of the problem is we need a holding mid. Arteta's done an admirable job, but its just not his game.
What DM's could we realistically go for? Wanyama? Not Diame, he's just a worse non injured Diaby, and doesn't defend.
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Carlito
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Let's try and get de jong . He may be a overtly physical but we need that mongrel in our team atm
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jlm8695 wrote:Santi drifting also allows Monreal to overlap and get in behind anymore, same as Jenks does when Theo comes inside.
Do think the root of the problem is we need a holding mid. Arteta's done an admirable job, but its just not his game.
What DM's could we realistically go for? Wanyama? Not Diame, he's just a worse non injured Diaby, and doesn't defend. Suppose it depends on how much money you're willing to spend. Higher spenders: Essien is the first one that comes to mind as possibly available, proven in the EPL and adds a lot of toughness. Suarez (Ateltico) Gundogan (Dortmund). Not sure if it's possible to even get him, but I think for the right price Dortmund players go to the EPL. Cheaper, young options: Strootman (PSV) Camacho (Malaga)
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sydneycroatia58
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Etienne Capoue, won't cost an arm and a leg and can also provide cover at CB.
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Neanderthal
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benelsmore wrote:Neanderthal wrote:benelsmore wrote:Neanderthal wrote:benelsmore wrote:Ramsey I didn't notice the whole game other than winning that FK that lead to the goal. That's weird that you didn't notice Ramsey the whole game given he had the most touches of any player on the field the whole game... (about tied with Santi) benelsmore wrote:True. Santi was anonymous on the left. That's weird that you thought Santi was anonymous on the left given he had the most touches of any player on the field the whole game... (about tied with Ramsey) I see a pattern. Touches is related to productivity and effectiveness how? Didn't say they were :) You're looking for patterns. Let me guess, the player I do rate (Rosicky) had near the least? Just calling things as I see them. I don't believe touches mean much at all. Actually it looks like Rosicky did have the most passes in the time that he was on the field :p I'm not sure why everyone is jumping on this like I was implying anything about quality of performance. Was just correcting your implication that they were not involved much. Which couldn't have been more wrong. jlm8695 wrote:Santi drifting also allows Monreal to overlap and get in behind anymore, same as Jenks does when Theo comes inside.
Do think the root of the problem is we need a holding mid. Arteta's done an admirable job, but its just not his game.
What DM's could we realistically go for? Wanyama? Not Diame, he's just a worse non injured Diaby, and doesn't defend. Agree with all of this. Wanyama seems the most appetising, but I'd be happy with Capoue too who is a more realistic target.
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afromanGT wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Hinderz wrote:I don't think the CBs should cope all the blame. Diagonal runs like that can always cause problems if there is no pressure in midfield on the guy making the pass and he can wait and pick his moment. Essentially the buck stops with the fact that Arsenal haven't had a good holding mid since Vieira left. Gilberto disagrees with you. :lol: You're a funny guy. Petit was the deeper lying mid when viera was there, viera was box to box
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sydneycroatia58
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afromanGT wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Hinderz wrote:I don't think the CBs should cope all the blame. Diagonal runs like that can always cause problems if there is no pressure in midfield on the guy making the pass and he can wait and pick his moment. Essentially the buck stops with the fact that Arsenal haven't had a good holding mid since Vieira left. Gilberto disagrees with you. :lol: You're a funny guy. All you said was 'good holding mid'. Gilberto was no world beater, but he was a good holding mid.
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Neanderthal
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Also, Song put in a number of fine performances in holding mid. He was very good at the role.
Granted he usually played more advanced which was the problem, at least in the last year or two.
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afromanGT
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tommyjet wrote:afromanGT wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Hinderz wrote:I don't think the CBs should cope all the blame. Diagonal runs like that can always cause problems if there is no pressure in midfield on the guy making the pass and he can wait and pick his moment. Essentially the buck stops with the fact that Arsenal haven't had a good holding mid since Vieira left. Gilberto disagrees with you. :lol: You're a funny guy. Petit was the deeper lying mid when viera was there, viera was box to box Petit was only at Arsenal for three of Vieira's nine seasons. Quote:All you said was 'good holding mid'. Gilberto was no world beater, but he was a good holding mid. Good for a mid-table side.
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Hinderz
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Good article about Jeremie Aliadiere's revival at Lorient, 13 goals and 9 assists so far this season. http://www.thehardtackle.com/2013/jeremie-aliadiere-former-arsenal-man-on-a-renaissance-at-lorient/
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:All you said was 'good holding mid'. Gilberto was no world beater, but he was a good holding mid. Good for a mid-table side. And good enough to be a regular starter (more starts than Viera) in the greatest EPL showing by a team in recent times with the Invincibles going undefeated all season :) Edited by neanderthal: 5/3/2013 06:27:03 PM
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sydneycroatia58
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:All you said was 'good holding mid'. Gilberto was no world beater, but he was a good holding mid. Good for a mid-table side. As has been mentioned, must've been pretty good to be able to start 29 games and play 32 altogether in the Invincibles season. Not to mention playing every knockout game in the run to the UCL final in 06 in which we conceded 0 goals until the final, which he also played in. But na, only good enough for a mid-table side right. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 5/3/2013 07:26:48 PM
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:All you said was 'good holding mid'. Gilberto was no world beater, but he was a good holding mid. Good for a mid-table side. As has been mentioned, must've been pretty good to be able to start 29 games and play 32 altogether in the Invincibles season. Not to mention playing every knockout game in the run to the UCL final in 06 in which we conceded 0 goals until the final, which he also played in. But na, only good enough for a mid-table side right. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 5/3/2013 07:26:48 PM To be fair given the names in that side its very easy to forget this guy. Didn't he score the fastest UCL goal there for a while?
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Gilberto kept Arsenal ticking over, a good if unremarkable player. Like Ben said, given the names in that side it's easy to overlook his impact. He was a regular for a reason. Gary Neville videos have recently been taken down but basically he talked about how suicidally high we push up (note TV and Mertesacker stepping forward and the ball floating past them in the next match), therefore Monreal has to be guessing what they're gonna do all the time and that's why he was at fault for both goals. He also made a not of communication problems with Monreal and TV for the second goal.
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Hinderz
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:Gary Neville videos have recently been taken down but basically he talked about how suicidally high we push up (note TV and Mertesacker stepping forward and the ball floating past them in the next match), therefore Monreal has to be guessing what they're gonna do all the time and that's why he was at fault for both goals. He also made a not of communication problems with Monreal and TV for the second goal. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTIyNjA0ODcy.html
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Good win from our young boys knocking out the defending champs, Inter, 1-0 away in Italy in the Next-Gen series Quote:[size=6] Inter Milan 0-1 Arsenal - Next-Gen Series[/size] By Rob Kelly in Milan In dreadful conditions, on an almost unplayable pitch, against the NextGen Series holders, Arsenal’s rising stars came of age on Wednesday afternoon. In a display full of heart, character and grit, they came to Inter Milan and won in dramatic circumstances. They will have their eyes firmly on the trophy now. Upon arriving at the ground, it immediately became clear that this would be far from the glamour tie it had at first appeared. The near constant rain in Milan had left the pitch covered in large puddles, while each goalmouth resembled a quagmire. An inspection half an hour before kick off ruled the game would go ahead, but this would be no ordinary game. From the off it became clear that passing football was not an option. The ball clung to the turf, the rain was pouring down and the pitch was cutting up with every second that passed. But Terry Burton’s side simply rolled up their sleeves and got on with their Italian job. The first half had seen them on the back foot for long periods, but they grew into the game after the interval and deservedly scored the only goal of the game when Nico Yennaris fired one into the bottom corner from 20 yards in the 68th minute. From that point on the Italians laid siege to the Arsenal goal, but the visitors would just not be beaten. After 90 breathless, immensely challenging minutes the final whistle blew to spark a huge outpouring of emotion as the entire Arsenal bench raced on to the pitch to celebrate as a squad. They had knocked out the holders - now CSKA Moscow await in the quarter finals. The perils of the pitch had soon became apparent when, in the sixth minute, Martin Angha played a regulation backpass from 20 yards out on the right touchline towards Deyan Iliev. However, the ball suddenly got caught in the sodden turf seven yards away from the Arsenal goalkeeper, and with Colombi advancing threateningly, he had to react smartly to clear it to safety. Inter remained on the front foot for much of the first half, and came closest to scoring on the quarter-hour mark when Elton Monteiro headed Bandini’s free kick out to the edge of the box. Tassi raced on to the loose ball and took a touch before crashing a powerful volley just over the bar from 25 yards. It was a moment of magic in an otherwise difficult opening 45 minutes for both sides. With conditions so poor, neither team were able to play the passing football on which they have been brought up. It soon became clear that if a goal was to come, it was likely to stem from a moment of magic or a mistake at the back - and in the 19th minute Inter so nearly obliged. Kris Olsson collected the ball midway inside the Inter half and attempted to find Chuba Akpom with a lofted pass. However, as the ball dropped to the young striker, the home centre back Donkor intervened and tried to cushion a header back to his goalkeeper. It evaded its outstretched target but drifted agonosingly wide of the far post. The rest of the half followed a similar pattern: Inter would press and probe, Arsenal would break on the counter before the move would collapse due to the sodden state of the pitch. It was tight and tense, with tempers fraying as the half wore on, but as the half-time whistle blew it remained deadlocked. The Gunners were far more assertive after the break, pushing Inter back for long periods and placing them under real pressure - albeit without managing to pry open the hosts’ defence. The pitch was so cut up by the hour mark that a passing game was nigh on impossible, with both sides forced to hit it long. Amid the gloom, suddenly a flash of real quality gave Arsenal the lead they had worked so hard for. Yennaris raced in to intercept the ball by the halfway line and he tore towards the Inter box. With the defenders backing away, the captain let fly from 20 yards and buried his shot into the bottom corner. The celebrations on the touchline showed how much it meant to this young side, but there was still plenty yet to do. There was a heartstopping moment with 10 minutes remaining when Belloni sent in a delightful cross from the right flnak. Monteiro - a calm presence at the back all afternoon - rose to clear but it skimmed off his head and skidded past the near post. Two minutes later Tassi came close once more as he raced into the box to meet another Belloni cross but directed his header inches off target. The NextGen holders were growing increasingly frantic, but the visitors held firm and kept their nerve and discipline. Finally, after a tense finale the final whistle blew. Arsenal’s Italian job was complete. http://www.arsenal.com/match/report/1213/post/nextgen/nextgen-series-inter-milan-0-1-arsenal
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Miyachi has just been injured.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Miyachi has just been injured. Saw it. Fair challenge but it didn't look nice. Miyachi sort of ended up against the hoardings.
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Miyachi has just been injured. Saw it. Fair challenge but it didn't look nice. Miyachi sort of ended up against the hoardings. It wasn't a foul, but it was a pretty hefty challenge considering Miyaichi was in a very non threatening position. Poor kid.
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Some not so great news with Jack reportedly out for the rest of the season with ankle ligament problems. Tomas Rosicky, you're up.
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jlm8695
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Have absolute faith in Rosicky, think hes a magical little player. Questions have to be asked about Jacks recovery, and why he hasn't been rested or even rotated with Tomas.
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jlm8695 wrote:Have absolute faith in Rosicky, think hes a magical little player. Questions have to be asked about Jacks recovery, and why he hasn't been rested or even rotated with Tomas. Questions must also be asked of people suggesting Jack as a suitable option for a goal scoring Fantasy competition... ... :evil:
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Has Wenger learned nothing with Jack? Fucks sake.
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Fucking hell.
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:Has Wenger learned nothing with Jack? Fucks sake. It's nothing to do with overplaying him and is apparently just a sprain he sustained in the derby last week. Apparently a chance he will be fit for the weekend. But of course, it's all Arsene's fault yeah? I mean how dare a player sprain an ankle. Initial about him being out for the season seems to have been a bit of an overreaction. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 12/3/2013 07:37:42 PM
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Newest reports are that he will miss 3 weeks.
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I guess its just a coincidence that he's played just about every game since he's been fit and has gone and injured the same ankle. All coincidence and nothing to do with the fact he hasn't had a rest, after coming back from a substantial lay off.
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All reports are that this injury has nothing to do with the one that kept him out of last season, and there is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
And what games would you have rested him in? Because you can guarentee the people whining about him not having a rest would be the first to whine about him being rested, just like what happened against Blackburn and against Brighton on the Cup. In this situation Arsene cannot win, if he rests him he gets criticised and if he doesn't rest him he gets criticised.
Since he came back against QPR he has played in 18/20 league games, has started all 18 that he's played in and has been subbed off early 4 times.
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Fantasy question - Who is the better option out of Santi and Theo?
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jlm8695
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Theo for sure.
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