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AST ≠ All Arsenal fans. Something a lot of the media seem to have a lot of trouble understanding.
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Sky now reporting we've had a bid of 10m rejected by Newcastle. No real surprise there, just an opening bid.
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Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.

If they've waited until now to make a move for him they're not going to panic-rush through a transfer for an ECL qualifier.
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afromanGT wrote:
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Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.

If they've waited until now to make a move for him they're not going to panic-rush through a transfer for an ECL qualifier.


We could depending on injuries. For example if both Ramsey and Rosicky are unavailable than I could definitely see us trying to push through a deal for a Cabaye quickly.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.

If they've waited until now to make a move for him they're not going to panic-rush through a transfer for an ECL qualifier.


We could depending on injuries. For example if both Ramsey and Rosicky are unavailable than I could definitely see us trying to push through a deal for a Cabaye quickly.

But are you guys that thin on the ground in midfield?
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afromanGT wrote:
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Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.

If they've waited until now to make a move for him they're not going to panic-rush through a transfer for an ECL qualifier.


We could depending on injuries. For example if both Ramsey and Rosicky are unavailable than I could definitely see us trying to push through a deal for a Cabaye quickly.

But are you guys that thin on the ground in midfield?


If both of those 2 were unavailable for Wednesday we would be yeah. If those 2 were to go down we'd be left with Jack, Santi, Frimpong and then you start getting into youth and reserve players.
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You keep talking about "if", but you aren't, so you don't have any need to rush through the transfer.
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I mention Ramsey and Rosicky because both came out of Saturday with knocks and both aren't guaranteed of being fit for Thursday.
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More on 'disgruntled Arsenal fans', and hope for change.

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The BSM write to Ivan Gazidis, expressing "deep concern"
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Dear Ivan,

We write to you as Arsenal’s largest and fastest growing supporters’ group, to convey our deep concern at the current state of our team going into the new season.

In early June, around season ticket renewal time, you were widely quoted following your Q&A event where you spoke about the club’s new financial firepower and ambition moving forward. Many fans saw this as the club finally about to break free from the shackles of moving stadium; new commercial deals were coming into place, we had a vast amount of cash available in the bank, profit from the Queensland Road property project was secured, the vast increase in TV revenue was about to land on our doorstep, and after treading water since moving from Highbury it seemed as if we were finally going to push on.

What has happened since then is nothing short of a disgrace.

There have been noises coming out of the club over the summer that the market was slow, that other clubs weren’t doing much, and that things take time if you’re after top quality players. We feel all of these were poor excuses, designed to deflect focus away from our shortcomings.

The only positive of the summer has been the release of many players who were generally considered ‘dead wood’ – and naturally this frees up more cash for investment in the team. But with the departure of these players, virtually no movement has come in the opposite direction and we’re now left with a squad severely lacking in depth and experience. Indeed, the squad registered for the Champions League in the last week had to be padded out with kids.

As a group we have been concerned for some time that the Board running our club has lost sight of the raison d'être i.e. we are Arsenal Football Club; not a business purely focused on posting profits year after year.

You will have seen the results of our end of season survey, which came out in favour of Arsene Wenger but with 70% stating that he has too much control over transfer negotiations and setting of wage levels at the club. The same survey revealed that 87% of fans feel the current Board of Arsenal is out of touch with the feeling among fans, and that 73% feel less valued by the club since we moved stadium.

It is our view as a group that the Board of Arsenal is too relaxed about the competitiveness of our team, and that as long as a top four place is secured, it is a case of ‘job done’. This should never be the case but despite hearing you say you’re not happy every time we end a season with nothing to really cheer about, nothing changes.

So in June following your statement of intent, fans were rightly hopeful but what has happened since then? Yet again we’ve spent the summer dithering while others around us have strengthened, and once more we start the season playing catch-up. With five competitive matches due before the transfer window closes, there is every chance that our season could be dealt a hammer blow before we’ve had a chance to take stock, and this weekend’s defeat at home to Aston Villa should act as a huge wake-up call.

We are now in a situation where we’re faced with a carbon copy of 2011, where it took an 8-2 humiliation at Manchester United to force a ‘trolley dash’ on the final day of the transfer window. Of course by then it was too late. For Arsenal to be in that situation once is unacceptable; for it to happen twice in three years will be unforgivable.

It is imperative that the Board of Arsenal does its job and manages the Manager – an employee of the club you are supposed to be running. What are Arsene Wenger's targets / KPIs set by the Board every year? Is the he not even answerable to the Board, with free rein to do as he pleases as long as he helps the business achieve a profit? Is he having to do all the running himself when it comes to transfers or if support is there, is he taking it? Clarity is required here because something clearly isn't right at the club when it comes to the acquisition of new players.

You put all the focus on the Arsene Wenger yourself at that Q&A session in June, but to fans there is little evidence of questions being asked of him; this despite approaching the end of the transfer window with no sign of needed, established quality coming in. Does the Board feel that it’s been a good summer? Because we’ve now lost our opening game of the season, our squad is already blitzed by injury, once more today there were fans coming to blows in the stands. As a Board member, does this even bother you?

Of course if we used the funds we do have available, brought in top quality players and competed for prizes, in would come better commercial deals, you wouldn’t have as much trouble trying to get corporate punters back into the stadium, and naturally the more successful we are it becomes easier to attract better players. Or is the Board too short-sighted to realise this?

A competitive team isn’t one which scrapes the position of 4th best team in the league on the final day of the season and gets dumped out of domestic cup competitions by lower league opposition; you need to realise that most fans are aware of this fact. They’re not duped by finishing in a position which may result in us playing in the Champions League. So what, if the cash from that competition is simply banked and never sees the light of day?

It should be noted that as long term fans of The Arsenal we’ve seen plenty of lean times and poor teams over the years. Silverware isn’t the be all and end all; we follow this club out of pure love and will always do so. However, loyal matchgoing fans continue to walk away from Emirates Stadium, unwilling to part with their hard-earned cash when they feel let down and lied to by our Board. We pay the highest ticket prices in football after being sold a dream, but it’s always a case of ‘jam tomorrow’ and many have seen through the spin.

Enough is enough.

If the Board is actually intent on making Arsenal a successful force in football once again, changes have to be made. Arsene Wenger should have experienced, qualified support to help bring in top quality players, and he needs to be managed effectively if the right business isn't being done.

Or if the Board is simply intent on milking the Arsenal brand for all its worth to the detriment of the team (but to the benefit of our bank account), season ticket prices at Emirates Stadium should be reduced accordingly. Our loyal fans should no longer have to bear the burden after doing so for many years.

Make no mistake, if there is not significant improvement in our playing squad over the next couple of weeks, the rapidly growing anger in the stands will become difficult to overturn. There hasn't been a poisonous atmosphere like this at Arsenal for over 30 years and the Board has simply stood by, while things have gone from bad to worse. I am sure you appreciate, this can no longer happen.

We look forward to your response in due course.

Yours faithfully,

Where Has Our Arsenal Gone (the Black Scarf Movement)

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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Sky now reporting we've had a bid of 10m rejected by Newcastle. No real surprise there, just an opening bid.


I don't think this is a genuine attempt to get him. Cabaye is a silly buy, he's 27/28 and about the same level as Arteta and Wenger knows he'd have to pay close to 20 for him. Maybe we're being used to leverage a move to man utd by his agent?
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We wouldn't be bidding for him if we were being used as leverage.

Have to say I did love Pardew's whining about it after the City game. Twat.
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Ok so in other news we apparently have representatives in Valencia for talks about keeper Vicente Guaita who is now apparently refusing to sign a new contract.

Rambo, Rosicky and Gibbs will all travel with the team to Turkey and Sagna will have a fitness test in the morning to see whether he goes, which would be a minor miracle imo.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Ok so in other news we apparently have representatives in Valencia for talks about keeper Vicente Guaita who is now apparently refusing to sign a new contract.

Rambo, Rosicky and Gibbs will all travel with the team to Turkey and Sagna will have a fitness test in the morning to see whether he goes, which would be a minor miracle imo.


Guaita is meant to be good, but I remember him letting in that Lavezzi goal in the champions league last year and it kind of put me off him. Let's pray for that minor miracle :(.

Regarding your post above, it may seem stupid, but maybe we low balled Newcastle for Man Utd to try and get them to sell Rooney to us. It sounds ridiculous, but we're really running out of options and Wenger knows 10 million is not even close to what Cabaye will go for and we don't need him.
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Tbh I think the bid is more for publicity's sake. Will be interesting to see how the new few weeks unfold.
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Classic Wenger :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wenger’s detailed knowledge of every player’s contract even created an issue when Oxlade-Chamberlain was making substitute appearances for Arsenal last season.
Written into the England winger’s deal is a clause stating that Arsenal must pay Saints £10,000 every time Oxlade-Chamberlain appears for more than 20 minutes.
Incredibly a trend emerged, with Wenger bringing him off the bench after 72 minutes (v Stoke), 73 minutes (Liverpool), 72 minutes (Coventry), 65 minutes (Norwich), 76 minutes (Fulham), 86 minutes (Tottenham), 67 minutes (Swansea), 73 minutes (West Ham), 71 minutes (Swansea), and 75 minutes (Reading).
Arsenal’s accounts department were stunned to receive an email from Southampton demanding payment for the appearances, with the south coast club justifying their argument based on stoppage time.
Eventually Arsenal agreed to pay for the appearances and the story worked its way around the offices at the Emirates with bafflement among staff.

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jlm8695 wrote:
Classic Wenger :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wenger’s detailed knowledge of every player’s contract even created an issue when Oxlade-Chamberlain was making substitute appearances for Arsenal last season.
Written into the England winger’s deal is a clause stating that Arsenal must pay Saints £10,000 every time Oxlade-Chamberlain appears for more than 20 minutes.
Incredibly a trend emerged, with Wenger bringing him off the bench after 72 minutes (v Stoke), 73 minutes (Liverpool), 72 minutes (Coventry), 65 minutes (Norwich), 76 minutes (Fulham), 86 minutes (Tottenham), 67 minutes (Swansea), 73 minutes (West Ham), 71 minutes (Swansea), and 75 minutes (Reading).
Arsenal’s accounts department were stunned to receive an email from Southampton demanding payment for the appearances, with the south coast club justifying their argument based on stoppage time.
Eventually Arsenal agreed to pay for the appearances and the story worked its way around the offices at the Emirates with bafflement among staff.


Sounds like something Wests Tigers in the NRL would do
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
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Also there is a chance, if we somehow get a deal done tonight, to be able to register them for the Fener game. As long as it's done by midnight GMT.

If they've waited until now to make a move for him they're not going to panic-rush through a transfer for an ECL qualifier.


We could depending on injuries. For example if both Ramsey and Rosicky are unavailable than I could definitely see us trying to push through a deal for a Cabaye quickly.

But are you guys that thin on the ground in midfield?


If both of those 2 were unavailable for Wednesday we would be yeah. If those 2 were to go down we'd be left with Jack, Santi, Frimpong and then you start getting into youth and reserve players.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8879230/jamie-carragher-says-arsenal-bid-for-yohan-cabaye-is-a-sign-of-panic
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Guaita is meant to be good, but I remember him letting in that Lavezzi goal in the champions league last year and it kind of put me off him. Let's pray for that minor miracle

Still a better keeper than Szczesny. One clanger isn't enough to be put off. He's a good keeper. Probably only Coirtois, Casillas and Valdez are better than him in La Liga.
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Wow, odds locked pretty close, almost keen to put a sneaky $10 on Fene in the UCL.

-PB

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Wow, odds locked pretty close, almost keen to put a sneaky $10 on Fene in the UCL.

-PB

I'll put a sneaky 60 on Arsenal if you do ;)
Arsenal look like pretty dam good odds to me. This whole media overreaction has inflated their payout.

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Neanderthal wrote:
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Wow, odds locked pretty close, almost keen to put a sneaky $10 on Fene in the UCL.

-PB

I'll put a sneaky 60 on Arsenal if you do ;)
Arsenal look like pretty dam good odds to me. This whole media overreaction has inflated their payout.

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Worth remembering that the first XI we will put out for the Fener game will actually be pretty strong, it's only once you get to the bench it gets really bad.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Worth remembering that the first XI we will put out for the Fener game will actually be pretty strong, it's only once you get to the bench it gets really bad.

Are you sure about that with the Derby game on the weekend?
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afromanGT wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Worth remembering that the first XI we will put out for the Fener game will actually be pretty strong, it's only once you get to the bench it gets really bad.

Are you sure about that with the Derby game on the weekend?


Tottenham isn't until next week, we're not going to rest first team players to prepare for a game against Fulham :lol:
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:lol: but knowing wenger ;)
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Good to see both Bac and Nacho training.


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when is nancho back? also glad to see bac training
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I know when I said them they were nothing "ground-breaking", but I've made mention in here that I thought Arsenal should have gone for Flamini, Richards & Pogba and apparently they're all "being linked" with the club now - Flamini is reportedly training with the team even.

Should I try some more exotic players? :lol:

I reckon Arsenal should go for Zlatan, Aguero, Luiz & Casillas :lol:
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Flamini has been training with the club for weeks, that's nothing new.
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I feel like the rumored 20m for Pogba will be well below Juve's evaluation and now with Marchisio out for a month I can't see that happening
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8 Years Ago by moofa
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