Yeah, and Ron Atkinson isn't a racist. He has lots of black friends. He just happened to call Desailly a "lazy nigger" live on TV, but he didn't mean anything by it.

It's not one incident, you know. There was one thing he said, but the chode has a long history of this stuff. And he doesn't stop.

But you just carry on.

Nah I am good I was just asking what the finger was about in last nights game and made a comparison to an incident a year or two ago before you had your little rant about your mate, think we got a little sidetracked:d

It is funny though how United are the only people who do wrong.

Edited by busbybabe: 21/8/2011 11:09:55 AM

You sound like you're being victimised. You're obviously not, as a whole, but when Fergie makes it sound like everyone's trying to attack you and the refs are all biased against you when referees are clearly shit in most matched, and the FA is out to get you, then it's natural that kind of horseshit is going to feed down.

But you, and other teams, have certain players you think the sun shines out of their arses when they're plainly awful, egotistic, antagonistic dickheads. And managers needs to censure those players, and if the managers refuse to instil discipline, then the FA will do it.

You just happened to pick the second biggest dickhead in United's history to use as an example, that's all. It's like what you said with Carroll and Crouch up there - you do it, you get a reputation, and your card is marked. And Neville's card is well and truly marked.

Those ratings are so bias, Carroll 7, he was absolute rubbish. Downing was the only impressive Liverpool player for me. Lucas was outclassed by the lad Frimpong

Yes I agree - imno - I saw a different game - was nothing to boast about, thankfully arse were disjointed and our defense was solid and composed at times but we were no where near the play during last weeks first half that was very impressive and probably the bar we must get too consistantly and soon.
Great for our building and glad to have this high profile game now that our opposition is under pressure more within their own circumstances. Nothing like banking the points with a fair display.

Wasn't a great performance in my eyes. Charlie Adam gave the ball away numerous times and whats wtih the shots from half way. Struggled to play out against a pretty inexperienced arsenal team. Happy with the win tho.

Alberto Aquilani has been quoted in the Italian press saying that he is close to a move to AC Milan.

You'd think Liverpool could win one game without United fans being a bitch.

It wasn't a bad performance by Liverpool, but we were let down by a lack of cohesion early on. We improved 10 fold when Suarez came on. If he'd started it would have been far, far worse for Arsenal. Adam and Carroll were both disappointing. On the whole, 3 good, valuable points.

Outclassed by a kid who got sent off. You were dropped as a child, right?

good. we better not be paying any part of his wages though like with Jovanovic

Aquilani's agent has now said he sign for Milan by Thursday

Edited by moofa: 22/8/2011 10:47:07 AM

All the best to him, would have liked him to stay but opportunities will be limited.

Hopefully we get some good coin.

Lucas was absolute boss. 16 tackles, 4 interceptions, 45 completed passes and 87% pass accuracy.

Typical, giving us Lucas's stats how bout you give us Frimpong's as well, I don't think he gave the ball away once.

where did you get these stats. looks good on its own but you need to compare it with other players

Ok so lets compare Frimpong and Lucas. Now it's a bit unfair to compare two players over the whole 90 minutes when one played 70 minutes while the other played a full game. So we'll just compare the players in the time they were on the pitch together.

In that 70 minutes Frimpong made 37 passes with 82% pass accuracy. In that same time Lucas made 26 passes with just over 81% passing accuracy.

Frimpong attempted 6 tackles and won 5 of them at a success rate of 83%. In that same time Lucas attempted 13 tackles but only won 7, at a success rate of 54%.

Frimpong made 4 interceptions in the 70 minutes, Lucas made 3.



Edited by sydneycroatia58: 22/8/2011 01:33:45 PM

Frimpong also got a red card :P

Was it straight red or second yellow?

2nd yellow.

There is the stats and therefore proves that Frimpong outclassed Lucas


Edited by sleel6: 22/8/2011 02:10:20 PM

And you care because?

I care because he had a good game, and Afroman was saying Lucas was better

Until he got sent off for a second needless booking

Ok so lets compare Frimpong and Lucas. Now it's a bit unfair to compare two players over the whole 90 minutes when one played 70 minutes while the other played a full game./quote]

But isn't that the point? Afro is saying Lucas had a better game, not a better 70mins.

Semantics FTW :lol:

Anyway.....

How bout Raul's mohawk?

Lucas vs Frimpong

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/92n9Eu8D0Q663963C3Vc

Adam vs Ramsey

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/5h0143i677dN7w976677

I wasn;t really answering what Afro said, just answering the question about comparing the stats between the 2 players.

No, they don't, because Lucas didn't get himself sent off, you fucking moron.

Woah! That's English for stop a horse!

While he was on the pitch he outclassed Lucas would be a more accurate summary.

He didn't outclass Lucas in any of those stats :lol:

The tackling one stands out yes but ask yourself this do you really think attempting 6 tackles is good enough for a DM who's team is getting out possessed? Does that not make you question the players movement? His ability to close down an opponent effectively? or in fact his general reading of the game?

Number one flaw with your argument is sadly for you the stats your reading...6 tackles attempted 5 completed?....What happened to the two fouls he commited in getting sent off?(he may in fact have gotten a yellow for that throw in incident but he still commited the foul in the first minute).

In saying all that i think Frimpong is a great talent his passing is immense and he doesn't mind a good wonder up the pitch, if he can get his head sorted and calm down a little hes going to be gun.

While he was on the pitch he had more to do than Lucas. Those stats don't show how often Frimpong was caught out of position.

Also, how could Frimpong have had 5 successful tackles out of 6 and be shown 2 yellow cards?