I don't see Bellemy here to score 20 goals in a season. He is here to bring a fire and passion to the field and the change rooms. Even though he may not be the best player ever he has a lot of experience as a striker so should also be able to help Carrol develop.

Dizzy, have you had a stroke or something? How do you go from cohesive contentions last season to hurling insults this season?

Fact is, Bellamy has already flopped for Liverpool once. Or have you forgotten about that already?

Fact is, Bellamy has already disrupted the Liverpool dressing room twice. Or have you forgotten about that already? Don't forget, just like Dalglish, Benitez praised Bellamy when he joined Liverpool.

Fact is, he wasn't good enough for a club we consider our rivals. Or are you that deep in denial ignoring the above two points that you're ignoring this fact too?

Would like to know also...

ok rafa...

Edited by parle_ku: 5/9/2011 08:46:40 PM

Charlie Adam out for Scotland's next game and maybe Stoke. I presume Spearing would come in and while he isn't as good as Adam I won't being worrying as he has played with many of the boys last year.

The main two options I feel we have are:

Move Spearing in as I said above

----Carroll----Suarez----
Downing---------Henderson
=------------------------
-----Lucas---Spearing----

Both Lucas and Spearing would sit deeper than Adam so we would have to rely on Henderson and Dowing for creativity

or move Henderson to centre and Kuyt in

----Carroll----Suarez----
Downing------------Kuyt--
--------Henderson--------
----------Lucas----------

If Kenny plays Kuyt up front we may play the same as first formation but with Kuyt or bring Maxi in on second formation if Kuyt plays upfront.

Edited by moofa: 5/9/2011 10:11:03 PM

I think with Charlie out we're more likely to see Henderson go into the middle and Dirk come in on the right, like you've posted in that last example.

Gerrard will be on the bench v Spurs hopefully too.

Can we fuck off this whole Bellamy debate? He's a Liverpool player right now, Stevie, Carra, Kenny all obviously want him to be here, so lets just get behind him and stop bickering about this shit. We get it, you wanted us to sign Hazard or Zarate or whatever. No point fucking whining about it, it's done. Get behind the players.

IF he plays like shit, THEN have a go. Not before he's even kicked a ball for us ffs.


Expecting Lucas to be in the XI v Ghana, KO in about an hour. Don't think I'll stay up though, will just record it.

What a fucking sexy man. Considering making it my avatar.

Oh, and this is what my sig is supposed to look like:

Bringing over the page.

Almost made this my new sig. Beast.

As much as I hate Liverpool and this is not really relevent, Sturridge would have been quality for you lot.

Spearing would be way down on the list if Gerrard is back. You'd see him on the bench, but him being a starter is a non-starter, I reckon. Hehe. If Gerrard is back - and if the formation is 4-2-3-1 again - then Gerrard and Lucas will be sitting in front of the defence, with Henderson on the right, pulling back as Gerrard needs to go forward and Downing on the left pushing high up the field. That central position would be occupied by Suarez in the false 9, with Carroll out front. If Gerrard isn't starting, then Kuyt, Shelvey and Maxi would probably be starters ahead of Spearing. He's out on the fringes of the team - I wouldn't be utterly shocked if he left in January or at the end of the year, possibly on loan. I tend to view him in the same light I viewed Danny Murphy - solid, good, but not great. He's yet to show some of the decisive flair that Murphy showed though, although you'd expect him to start showing out as he gets more game time.

But then again, this is a very different Liverpool to Houllier/Evans. Murphy would struggle to make an impact with the quality of the squad - easily the best since 2008/2009. Which is incomplete, and you could probably expect more British players to get drafted in.

I'm on a roadie down the West Coast this weekend, so I'll probably be missing the game. They like their rugby down there, so with that kicking off this weekend it's not likely footy is going to get much airtime. I'll record it, but boo.

But I hate squad speculation. This is going to be a really testing match, going to the Potteries so early in the season, with Stoke not looking so bad and getting a win at West Brom. Last time things weren't so good; true, the donkey was in charge, but if we can win at Stoke then wins anywhere are possible.

That's what I meant to bring over the page, not moofa's post :lol:

:(

Salright mate, I still love ya. :P

Great news. Amazing that half the Uruguay squad had been thru Nacional at some point in their careers.

Fantastic news.

John Terry warning Carrol that a bad lifestyle can be very threatening to his career.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/09/06/2652523/liverpool-and-england-striker-andy-carroll-needs-to-be

Terry uses himself as an example:



funny how he didn't mention sleeping with a teammates wife as being a bad idea as well.

"...I'll just get my kicks shagging married women instead."

No biggie, but worth mentioning she wasn't married, or even with Wayne Bridge at the time of the affair

Fuck, no, that was Giggsy, the married one.

maybe he was on to something? most decorated player ever in english football?

Only Luis could make that sound so easy :lol:

Fucking love the man.

Stewart isn't quite as into this celebration as Ashley...

Useful information:

Last time we beat Stoke at the Potteries, it was in 2000 in the League Cup. We beat them 8 - 0.

But don't take too much solace from that: at the time, Stoke were in Division 2 (now League One).

On current Premier League form, our record at the Potteries is DDL. Why the fuck is it so hard to play there?

They play a very physical game and with home support behind it the refs can be very lenient. I also feel Stoke is improving and could be a top 10 team is Europe doesn't distract them too much so it won't be easy. Would have been a alot better playing them there near the end of Europa group stages.

I think most clubs in the league are wondering the same thing.

I wonder whether we'll play their game and bring Andy back in, or try to keep it on the deck more with Suarez and Kuyt.

Personally I'd persist with Suarez-Kuyt here. Bring on Andy if we need to. But if Carroll plays I certainly wont be upset. And he could be a real asset defending those long throws.

Anyone think Bellers or Coates might start?

I don't think the physical aspect of it is really that much - I wouldn't consider United to be a very physical team, not these days, and at least not compared to the likes of Toon or Wolves, and United probably have the best record against them down there. I don't think it's the stadium, either. It's not as imposing as Anfield, and it's certainly not as intimidating by sheet numbers as St James' Park or Old Trafford - compared to the size, I think about 10% of seats are away seats as well. That's pretty big. Anfield let in about 3,000 with a capacity of 4,500 tucked away in the corner of the Anfield Road.

It's something about them at home - Arsenal have a really bad record there, but I'm fucked as to know why, because Stoke get decimated when they go to London.

At Stoke? Might be a bit rough for a first start for Coates. I'd expect Carroll in there, because he can give as good as they're going to dish out. And I'd love to see Bellamy in there. :D But I'd put money on a Carroll-Suarez start, especially with Charlie doubtful and Stevie out.