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Sky Sports seems to think Mignolet has signed for 11m.
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Fucking called that we'd get Manchester when Suarez is still banned.

Still, day or two after my birthday, and I'll be in England at the time. Hopefully I can cough up enough to see this match.
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Liverpool have completed the signing of Luis Alberto from Sevilla, subject to international clearance: http://t.co/n3qBdCzhlP

6.8 Mill apparently. Haven't seen him but seems expensive for someone who scored 11 in 36 in Segunda Division, Also it means we have 7 strikers between 19 and 23 (Sturridge, Borini, Pacheco, Morgan, Sinclair, Yesil) and if Suarez goes our oldest striker will be 23 (Sturridge). Now I would say Pacheco has already failed but you are really setting up for another couple not to make it. I wonder if a few will be sent out on loan.

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Also in the reserves there is another 3 20 year old strikers, Ngoo, Bijev, Adorjan. I hope we have a loan list similar to the size of Chelsea this year as we have a bunch of 20 year olds that should be close to first team football not just these strikers

EDIT2: new link http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/the-complete-guide-to-luis-alberto
Apparently 17 assists and plays as a false 9, what I also think Henrikh Mkhitaryan plays so it very much looks like we are getting players to play off Sturridge unless he is moving him wide. Also more indication Suarez is going imo

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Not particularly excited about Luis Alberto. Hope Rodgers knows what he's doing with that one. Looks a lot like we're just taking a buckshot approach to players who can play in underneath Sturridge.
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Would actually like to see some transfer fees come in.

Reina: 8-10m (asuming mignolet comes in)
Shelvey: 6-8m
Wilson: 0
Assaidi: 1m
Pacheco: 500k-1m
Spearing: 2-3m
Coates: 7-9m (hasn't really played but could be part of Uruguay's 1st choice partnership very soon)

Also if we loan out Suso we could possibly get a fee. I know for younger players you normally don't but he is well know and so there could be competition for him and 20 Liverpool appearances is pretty high for someone going out on loan.
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Rodgers has spoken highly of him and obviously he was one of our priorities so that's enough for me. I know none of you (including me) have seen anywhere near enough of him to make a solid judgement.. but I guarantee the scouting team and BR have so that's enough for me.

Lets give him a few games before we start moaning about a transfer.

Also, dreaming if you think we'd get 7m for Coates :lol:

I also have no idea why you're mentioning the likes of Sinclair and Yesil alongside Alberto. Ridiculous.
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but I guarantee the scouting team and BR have so that's enough for me.

Could say the same thing about several of our flops from recent memory too.

I'd like to see Coates loaned out for this season and then re-assess where he's at developmentally.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8788753/Liverpool-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-is-optimistic-Luis-Suarez-will-stay

Gotta love the way Rodgers just casually slips in a reminder to Suarez that he expects him to keep performing rather than sulk if a move doesn't eventuate.
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Everytime Rodgers sends out a press release I'm impressed by the bloke. Good that we've got a manager for the whole pre-season for a change.
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AJohn wrote:
Everytime Rodgers sends out a press release I'm impressed by the bloke. Good that we've got a manager for the whole pre-season for a change.

Dalglish got a full pre-season for the 11/12 season.
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I'll reword that, a full preseason after a full season :lol:
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All the red tape stuff is dealt with now, Aspas move is confirmed. Good. :)

That's our front line sorted it Luis stays.
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Laugh at Everton…it’s allowed

by Gareth Roberts // 23 June 2013 // 10 Comments

SCHADENFREUDE. Just in case it’s a word you’re not familiar with, it’s German. And it means ‘the pleasure derived from the misfortune of others’ or ‘malicious joy’.schadenfreude

Well that’s the official version. The Urban Dictionary – urbandictionary.com – offers up some more base definitions: “Watching a vegetarian being told she just ate chicken. Straight-A students getting Bs. Exes getting STDs.”

Anyway, you get the picture.

Now somewhere sometime, shit got serious when it comes to football. Instead of footie stickers, league ladders and dreaming of buying fancy foreign stars, it all turned leveraged buy outs, Financial Fair Play and the minutiae of tactical approaches.

Now don’t get me wrong, I enjoy some of the detailed analysis of the game and I’m all for fans empowering themselves with financial and football governance knowledge as part of an attempt to take the game back to its roots.

But all that shouldn’t be at the expense of that childhood pantomime hatred of your rivals and this is the thing – loads of footie fans have gotten all ‘moral’ in their old age. I’ve probably been guilty of it myself at times, but fuck’s sake, it’s meant to be a laugh all this. Treat it as that.

When Alex Ferguson announced his retirement – and I’d finished punching the air – I reached for my keyboard and, without thought, grinning, I tweeted: “As a Liverpool fan, I’d like to say with the deepest sincerity that I hope it all turns to shit at Old Trafford now Taggart is going.”

I meant it. Watching them winning everything has pissed me off no end, especially as I’ve had the misfortune to work in Manchester for a good proportion of my working life. I’m good mates with some Mancs (shock fucking horror) but it doesn’t mean I want anything but the worst for their footie team.

It was exactly the same for them when we were winning everything in sight. They hated us, despised us – couldn’t stand the sight of Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush and the rest.

All that – as well as the close proximity, the economic history, the clothes and the music – is why there is such a strong rivalry between the city and the clubs (well, except if you’re a Blue obviously – they love a bit of the Mancs don’t they?).

I was delighted Ferguson was calling time on his managerial career – I still am. To these eyes, the bitter old Sweaty Sock has been the difference for them many many times – from his baiting and bullying of referees and the FA, to his (and I say this through gritted teeth) indefatigable will to win.

Now, not only has he quit, he’s been succeeded by David Moyes, a middling manager who’s never finished higher than fourth. It’s a move that in all likelihood has weakened both Man United and Everton in one fell swoop. What’s not to love?

But ooh no, we must be gracious. We must not mock. We can’t be perceived as ‘bitter’. And we’re crap so how can we have a pop?

Who decided these rules?

Sorry, but bollocks. Footie’s not always about logic and objectivity. It’s about deep-set uncontrollable passion and the schadenfreude of watching rivals (in a sporting sense – not all that mocking human tragedy shite) suffer is very much part of that.

One of the first tweets I got back was from a staunch home and away Man United fan who writes and distributes one of their fanzines, United We Stand.

“Arsed…” was all it said. He was though. Like when we were lumbered with Hodgson, the United fans will no doubt back Moyes at the match but there are plenty unconvinced by the appointment.

Replying to my tweet “praying for Moyes”, this United fan added: “Fuck me I’ll bet you are. He’s behind Warnock on my wish list. And Warnock’s behind Stuart Hall…”

Others though, Liverpool fans, clambered for the virtuous path. One tweeted: “Being bitter just plays into their hands. I’d just respect the achievements, and the legacy and move on and hope LFC improve!”

Respect their achievements? Oh aye – I’ll roll out the red carpet for “Sir Alex” as well should I? Maybe present him with a special award on behalf of Liverpool fans? Seriously, what the fuck?

Mancs, like you need reminding, sing about us EVERY game. Ferguson once lifted a title and the first word out of his mouth was “Liverpool”. Then there’s the infamous “perch” crap. Anyone that thinks this doesn’t work both ways is living in a parallel universe.

The same fan added: “Not what I would expect from a journalist! SAF made Man U. Beating them won’t be as sweet now.” That elevated the lad to crank status to be fair. “SAF”? Beating them won’t be sweet? I despair. If this represents any decent portion of football fans these days then stop the world – I’m getting off.

And while I’m on, I hate the “not what I would expect from a journalist” shout. EVERY person that writes regularly about football supports a team. Some are up front about it, others prefer to keep it quiet. Equally, some do a better job than others at remaining objective when they’re doing the day job.

Most, in normal life, when they’re on the ale, with their mates will say the same things about teams they don’t like as everyone else does.

But back to the schadenfreude. Moyes was good for Everton, I suppose. He had them punching above their weight, finishing above where they should have given the size of the wage bill and so on.

But with his awful derby record and his aversion to silverware, he was pretty good for us, too. And it was all kinds of wrong to see the fella who’d left them up shit creek being given a guard of honour for getting off to a club that once upon a time was a rival for them. How the mighty has fallen.

As for the Mancs, well hilariously they’ve started selling the idea of Moyes to each other. “He might not be that bad you know?”. “It was who Alex wanted.” etc etc

Just for shits and giggles, let’s have a mooch at David Moyes’ away Premier League record v Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal while in charge of Everton: P45 W0 D18 L27.

Good eh? Throw in his propensity to shit his pants – and wear Alan Partridge outfits – on the big occasions and the fact the only trophy to his name is the Football League Second Division in 2000 and there’s plenty to give us hope that he’ll start tailspinning once he grabs the controls at Old Trafford.

Moyes is used to setting up sides to first and foremost avoid defeat – he did again at Anfield despite bringing over an Everton side that notched up its highest-ever Premier League points total.

That won’t be good enough at United. And hopefully neither will he.

Of course it’s not quite as funny if we’re shite… But that’s details, mere details. Now where’s that new Everton badge, I could do with a laugh…


http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2013/06/laugh-at-everton-its-allowed/

Good read.
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Not a bad read. Just two things I have to point out

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he’s been succeeded by David Moyes, a middling manager who’s never finished higher than fourth.

I don't think that's the thing to say when you have Brendan Rodgers in charge at Liverpool.

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Mancs, like you need reminding, sing about us EVERY game.

Well, I've been to games games and well yeh, not true. City yes but not Liverpool.

I like his reasoning though, obviously from the other side of the fence though :d
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All the red tape stuff is dealt with now, Aspas move is confirmed. Good. :)

That's our front line sorted it Luis stays.

Apparently his shot accuracy last season would have seen him ranked second behind Lukaku as the most effective striker. 12 goals in a relegation battle is a good effort. Hopefully he takes to the EPL strongly and we're not buying a whole bunch of squaddies and deadwood.
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I don't think that's the thing to say when you have Brendan Rodgers in charge at Liverpool.

I was thinking the same thing. But then we're not defending champions.
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:lol: good read thanks AJohn.....

Yer looked up Aspas's stats the other day - hope it carry's over into the epl, if he can settle in as Continho we'll be very happy !



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Mignolet signed, hopefully Barca will have put or now put up a good amount for Reina
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I'm not a fan of losing Reina. I think competition for the starting spot would do both keepers a world of good.
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I've seen somewhere, not sure where, Rodgers saying Mignolet was brought in as competition for Reina. Both keepers are brilliant, I can see Reina playing league games and Mignolet in the cups, like Hart/Pantillimon last season for City. Unless Reina's league form slips.
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AJohn wrote:
I've seen somewhere, not sure where, Rodgers saying Mignolet was brought in as competition for Reina. Both keepers are brilliant, I can see Reina playing league games and Mignolet in the cups, like Hart/Pantillimon last season for City. Unless Reina's league form slips.

He could be saying that in order to maximise the asking price for Reina.
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Borussia Dortmund have made a €23 million (£19.5m) bid for reported Liverpool target Henrikh Mkhitaryan. wrote:


Shakhtar Donetsk CEO Sergei Palkin confirmed the Bundesliga side's offer for the 24-year-old midfielder, but insists it falls way short of the club's own valuation.

Instead, the Ukrainian outfit want one instalment of €30m (£25m) for the player, who has gone AWOL after not showing up with the rest of the Shakhtar squad for pre-season training.

His impending departure could have been helped by Shakhtar's acquisition of Brazilian Fred from SC International for €15m (£12.5m), announced by the club on Wednesday.

Palkin told Futbol: "I don't know where Mkhitaryan is now, solely his agent knows this.

Official position

"We are prepared to sell Mkhitaryan for ¿30m (£25m), this offer stands for the next 10 days. If Mkhitaryan wishes to leave, they have to pay this amount for him."
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
"Borussia offered €23m (£19.5m) for the midfielder. I contacted Mkhitaryan's agent yesterday. I wrote to him about the official position of the club.

"We are prepared to sell Mkhitaryan for €30m (£25m), this offer stands for the next 10 days. If Mkhitaryan wishes to leave, they have to pay this amount for him.

"€30m, one installment. If there is a club that can pay that amount, we are ready to make a deal."

While Liverpool have been linked with Mkhitaryan as Brendan Rodgers seeks to overhaul his squad, Palkin claims there has been no approach from the Reds as yet.


Looks like you'll miss out on this one.
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If Dortmund gets him we have a much better chance at going for Eriksen who I would rather anyway
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moofa wrote:
If Dortmund gets him we have a much better chance at going for Eriksen who I would rather anyway

This.
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Eriksen would probably be cheaper too.
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They're not in a strong bargaining position with the fact Mkhitaryan disappeared and clearly doesn't want to stay.

I still have a funny feeling we'll get him. I think the Dortmund interest is just the chairman playing games.
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Just saw this -


John Bradley ‏@JBcommentator 3 Jun
Having watched Henrikh Mkhitaryan grow as a person and a player at Shakhtar Donetsk, I will dance a jig if he signs for Liverpool #player

Hmm..

John Bradley ‏@JBcommentator 14m
Dancing a jig ;-)

Not like it's conclusive but interesting nonetheless.
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Given he disappeared that gives us a little something extra, but when their asking price is currently 25m that's a bit steep IMO.
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Jonjo sale is confirmed. Best of luck lad. Thanks for that goal against Chelsea :lol:
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Yes saw that last night - I think he'll do better there instead of his bench starts with us.
Not bad we signed him for 1.7 in 2010 - near on 6m now, good luck Jonjo just don't score v's us !
We have too many mids good little sale.

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We've got Gerrard, Lucas, Henderson and Allen...we'd have had too many mids if Mkhitaryan comes in.
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