What amuses me is how Australian fans get up in arms over every test match australia gets to be 5 for 100 something and then they smash england for the remainder of the test match

Attention span of a bogan

Probably because most of them are

Edited by aufc_ole: 14/12/2013 01:29:39 PM

The twitter feed on channel 9's coverage, is all white bogans

Like ew... *avoids*

Suck it, KP.

God that Root decision. I don't understand the point of having all this technology, when you put it in the hands of idiots who don't know what they're doing.

I didn't see the dismissal, was it one of those "not enough evidence to overrule" dealios?

pretty much. but if anyone remembers Australia got absolutely rooted with the DRS in England.

I don't understand how you can apply the "not enough evidence" rule to being caught out. I mean, how do you prove beyond all doubt that he didn't hit it?

Meh, Smith was out with Snicko a frame after the ball had passed as well, do it once do it twice.

People just need to get over it.

-PB

He's having a dire series so far

You coming day 3 before the WS game kent? Hopefully this one ends in a draw so we can be there when we win back the ashes.

anyone got a stream for the cricket?

Thought it was mildly interesting.

Australia's tour of South Africa in Feb will be interesting. Will give a good scope of where the team is at, and wether they have actually turned the corner, or if it's just down to England being trash.

This. Winning this series 4 or 5-0 is great and all, but won't mean much if we can't back it up in South Africa.

Well in Watto.

Unlucky Bresnan, Watto to choke?

Awww no.

Shoulda let Bailey smash the 50 then call it.

-PB

That ball to Cook is the exact reason I hated opening. Fuck getting that first up

You know you're shit when Watson starts making runs against you. Period.

Still no english batsman has made a ton this series. They're all under huge pressure.

Anyone who put money on a 5-0 win for Australia back before the series started must be getting a bit excited right now.

That was as inconclusive as Root's in the first innings yet this time it was overturned. May as well drop hot spot if all they're ever going to go on is Snicko.

Edited by gooner4life_8: 16/12/2013 08:38:42 PM

sounded out, i was suprised they overturned it when there was nothing on hot spot.

I'd like to know just how unreliable hot-spot actually is. Surely you'd think snicko would be less reliable as it could pick up noise from anywhere where as it's always pretty clear when a hot spot is caused by the ball rather than something else.

When the two pieces of technology you're using are telling you two different things, I'd call that inconclusive evidence - must be the case that the umpires consider snicko to be the more reliable of the two and hot spot only really comes into play when someone's missed a really obvious edge. If so fair enough, they know the technology better than I do, if not then that's a load of bullshit to overturn that decision but not the one in the first innings.

And just ditch DRS and leave it up to the umpies

-PB

Snicko uses what you call a "shotgun" microphone. It uses acoustics to filter out extraneous sounds so it can pick up audio from a very small, specific source area. Snicko is actually very reliable.

I'm not convinced hot spot is very accurate. These very thin edges constantly being talked about and questioned in combination with the rumours and allegations that there are bat treatments which can cheat the hot spot in such circumstances make it very questionable in my mind.

Yeah, Hot spot is hardly reliable I'm just not convinced by snicko either. At the end of the day though, I think it is fair enough to favour snicko as it's proved to have fewer issues than hot spot. It's just that if you hadn't watched any cricket before and didn't know anything about the issues we've had with the two, you'd probably think hot spot was the more reliable.

For background noise to have any possibility of compromising snicko it would have to be a freak set of circumstances:
- First of all with regard to timing, since it's possible to detect sounds being out of sync with audio if there's as little as 2 frames of variance - which equates to 0.08 of a second - it would have to be freak timing.
- Secondly, given the way the microphone is designed and works with regard to directionality the compromising sound would need to be incredibly loud and that would be immediately obvious from other microphones around the ground.
- Thirdly the waveform of ball on bat is very unique and the structure (attack and decay) is very different from any other sounds.

The only issue with Snicko is that the time taken to ensure that the audio is in sync with the visual.

I don't understand how the hotspot system can reliably show fine edges when it relies on heat fluctuation generated by friction. A fine edge isn't going to generate much friction is it?

There was a spot on the ball after it left the bat