Victorian Kid signs for Celtic Youth


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I always wonder what overseas Clubs see in our kids that here in Australia we ignore them.
We must lose a lot of junior & youth players in our current system of development.

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At long last Jackson Irvine cleared to play with Celtic
Written by Craig MacKenzie / Tuesday 7th December 2010

IT’S official! Victorian teenager Jackson Irvine has signed a two-year youth deal with Scottish club Celtic.


Irvine trialled successfully with the Glasgow-based outfit last December but had to wait for almost a year to secure an international clearance.
FIFA contacted Football Federation Australia about this matter some time ago and GW understands that Professional Footballers’ Australia had to give FFA a nudge before the necessary paperwork finally arrived at Celtic.
Ironically, Celtic’s youth season has been interrupted by national call-ups and also the severe weather that has hit the UK recently.

Irvine also injured ankle ligaments and has been out of action for over three months. The 17-year-old only recently returned to full training and can’t wait to make his league debut.
“My injury was a really bad one. I completely ruptured all the ligaments on my left ankle during a 50/50 challenge with our goalkeeper at training,” said Irvine.
“I went to hospital and had scans on it straight away. I was on crutches for three and a half weeks with a ski boot on my foot.
“Overall I was out for around three and half months but the physios were expecting it to be longer so I was very happy to get back as soon as I did.
“I’m back in full training now, although I’m lacking a bit in match fitness, but that is to be expected I suppose. Hopefully I can get a couple of games in before the Christmas break.”


Irvine is a former Endeavour United and Knox City junior and had a short spell with Richmond’s youth team. He also played for Southern Blue Tongues in the Victorian Champions League summer competition.
His breakthrough season came in 2009 when he joined Frankston Pines in Victoria’s State League Division One.
Pines were coached by Tommy O’Halloran and after just one game in the reserves against Northcote he was promoted to the first team and enjoyed a stellar debut senior season winning the club’s best and fairest award and the players’ player-of-the-year trophy.
O’Halloran had switched the midfielder to right back and his talents attracted the interest of A-League franchise Melbourne Victory.
Irvine trialled with Victory’s youth team and in November 2009 played against Perth Glory. It was to be his one and only national youth league appearance.
O’Halloran arranged for the youngster to trial with Celtic last December and the Scottish giant was impressed straight away.

It was an amazing turnaround in fortunes for the teenager given that he never represented Victoria at junior level, failed to win a Victorian Institute of Sport scholarship and was not offered a youth contract at Victory.
“Getting a contract at Celtic means the world to me. I always dreamed about moving overseas to play football, but when the opportunity actually came, it was a massive shock for me and my family,” said Irvine.
“The club itself is such a wonderful club to be a part of. It’s amazing getting to train with world class players and coaches every day and I feel myself improving as a player almost daily.
“Hopefully after two years I can earn myself a pro contract but I understand how difficult a task that is.”
Irvine comes from a footballing family. His father Steve played with Morwell Falcons, Croydon, Doveton and Sandringham City.


During the Christmas break, the teenager will fly back to Melbourne for 10 days arriving on 21 December.
He then jets out to Turkey on 2 January for a two-week training camp with Celtic’s youth squad.



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Good on him. Our system is rubbish.
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So far the Victory have missed out on Matthew Leckie and Jackson Irvine in the last couple of years...the sooner Melbourne Heart get their youth team up and running the better off we'll all be.
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Anyone here know much about him?
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Joffa wrote:
So far the Victory have missed out on Matthew Leckie and Jackson Irvine in the last couple of years...the sooner Melbourne Heart get their youth team up and running the better off we'll all be.


It's not just Victory Joffa, the establishment pathways, VCL, VIS, State Squads, are not the only ways of developing the players. Though the FFV would have you think so.

This is why I go on about a strong second tier and the Clubs should still be involved in strong vibrant competitions.
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Good luck to him Celtic are a big club hope he can do something great

As for our system we need a regional based 2nd division that A-league clubs are associated with with i personally think the NYL is to expensive to maintain crowds are non-existent and most players don't get a chance to develop if they dont get a contract after the age of 21.

If every Team had a regional team that played against state based sides it would more cheaper and would uncover more players making it easier for scouts to cover more ground quicker.

we need a 2nd and 3rd division with relegation between the 2nd n 3rd div the 2nd divisions best players would filter into the A-league and also give scouts a chance to come and watch our younger talent.

I know Japan do something similar where they have Universities have a side in the lower divisions of the J-league



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I also think we need a regionally based second tier in major population centres such as Darwin, Cairns, Geelong and the like who are currently unable to sustain an A-League club but nevertheless have much to offer Australian Football.

I would also create a third tier in effect comprised of the cream of the State League clubs...I would also abolish the youth league and those players would be absorbed into the new structure.

I think long term this would be the way to go and would be the best for everyone and would hopefully one day lead to promotion and relegation amongst the divisions.

I think a set up like would not only bring the former NSl clubs back into the fold but would also maximise talent identification and development...as well as building our game and League/s Australia wide.
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While I don't agree with your model Joffa, I would add that the FFA needs to establish connections with European and South American Clubs anfd their Youth Academeies to take our best young players and coaches on development scholarships.

It is key to have our 17,18 &19 yearolds to spend even 6 months at an Italian, Spainish, French, German or English Youth Academy as part of their development.

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Some kids are just late bloomers, I remember former NRL man gordan Tallis said when he was young he never made the top teams, he was always in tyhe lower divinsons, it was only when he hit hes 20s he hit hes peak and started to play like the player we had seen smash it up in the NRL,
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Poor kid
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Well done to the lad. Hope he does well. Celtic are a great club!


Edited by Aussiesrus: 28/12/2010 09:46:06 AM
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Dont think Celtic was a great move TBH. Scottish players are not well known for their technical ability, so it certainly doesnt seem to be that great. Lets hope its not the case this time.

As for player development in Australia, theres always gaps, yet we can not have all players in the NTC. There are only so many spots that can be given out. We do not have he academies at each top club to do this, unlike overseas, so our national program, along with the state institutes, are our best options.

Things will evolve over time, but given the decades of neglect, theres a lot to work on over the next decade.



Edited by heart_fan: 28/12/2010 08:09:01 PM
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Arthur wrote:
While I don't agree with your model Joffa, I would add that the FFA needs to establish connections with European and South American Clubs anfd their Youth Academeies to take our best young players and coaches on development scholarships.

It is key to have our 17,18 &19 yearolds to spend even 6 months at an Italian, Spainish, French, German or English Youth Academy as part of their development.


In ways thats a good idea, in others its not.

The FFA can not do everything for every player, it sometimes comes down to doing the hard yards to get the results, which can be done individually. If the player is seen as being good enough, he will become part of the NTC. If not, keep working hard and look for all available options.


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Dont think Celtic was a great move TBH. Scottish players are not well known for their technical ability, so it certainly doesnt seem to be that great. Lets hope its not the case this time.



Considering the lads options here in Victoria and Australia right now, TBH I think his done really well for himself and this should accelerate his development.

With no offence to Tom O'Halloran and Frankston Pines I doubt the lad would have progressed much further in Victorias State 3 Competition.
Compared to Celtic Youth.

Edited by Arthur: 28/12/2010 08:23:25 PM
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Totally agree there Arthur.
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Lysterfield to Celtic: success eclipses the lows
BY ROY WARD
20 Jun, 2011 12:00 AM

PROFESSIONAL soccer is filled with glorious highs and terrible lows.

In one year with Scottish Premier League giant Celtic, teenager Jackson Irvine has experienced both feelings but he has learnt the moments of glory more than compensate for the down times.

The 18-year old Lysterfield resident overcame a serious ankle injury to establish himself with Celtic's under-19 side as it won the Scottish double, claiming the league championship, then beating storied rival Rangers 2-1 in extra time to win the under-19 Scottish FA Cup in front of 10,000 people at Hampden Park, Scotland's national stadium.

The central midfielder started 12 of the last 15 games and played all 120 minutes of the cup final which the Bhoys won with a goal late in extra time.

"It was extraordinary – I've never felt anything like it," Irvine said. "There was probably two minutes left when we scored. After that it was just chaos, there were wild celebrations."

The under-19s' success earned them a half-time lap of honour during one of the senior team's late season matches at Celtic Park.

"It's indescribable to hear 60,000-odd people cheering for you," he said. "I was thinking 'I could get used to this'."

Irvine has one year to run on his youth team contract and will again play for the Bhoys under-19 team next season.

Celtic's success has also earned it entry to the newly minted UEFA under-19 Champions League, known as the NextGen Series, which will put leading European club youth teams against each other under a format similar to the senior Champions League.

The finer details of the tournament are still being finalised but pools for the group stage have been announced with Celtic to face Manchester City, Marseille and Barcelona.

The clubs are expected to play their matches on their senior grounds and Irvine is salivating at the prospect of representing Celtic on storied grounds such as Celtic Park and Barcelona's Nou Camp.

"It would be a long way from playing at Langwarrin or Knox City," he said. "We played Liverpool at Celtic Park last season and won 3-0. Playing at the Nou Camp would be beyond extraordinary but they haven't confirmed that yet."

Irvine is still amazed at the circumstances that helped him make his way to the Bhoys.

In 2009 Irvine spent the season with State League club Frankston Pines under coach Tommy O'Halloran.

Irvine planned to visit his sister in Scotland and when he told his coach he was going over, O'Halloran rang his cousin, who is a junior coach at Celtic, and organised a trial.

What was meant to be an experience-building exercise became serious when Irvine impressed the Celtic coaches, who invited him back over for a formal trial last year, which led to a youth contract offer.

"It all fell into place," Irvine said. "I just got lucky. Sometimes I just have to pinch myself because I'm playing with one of the biggest clubs in the world – it doesn't seem real."

Adjusting to life in Glasgow has been rather easy for Irvine, whose father is from Aberdeen, although Irvine's success has forced his dad to move his allegiance from the Dons to the Bhoys.

"It's not as different as I expected. It's a lot like Melbourne, just everything seems a little smaller."

While Irvine has plenty to laugh about now, his first six months were nothing short of horrific.

First his international clearance was held up by international red tape, then he suffered a serious ankle injury, leaving him to adjust to his new country while also rehabilitating his injury.

He only got to take the field for the club after Christmas last year.

"It was a pretty disastrous first six months. It was hard for me and hard for mum and dad back home because they knew I was miserable.

"But the team went to Turkey for a training camp after Christmas and from there I got myself fit and then worked my way back into the team."

While Irvine has established himself in the under-19 team, he is far from securing a senior contract with the Bhoys and could end up at a different club after his contract expires at the end of next season.

"I'm working with some of the best coaches in Europe and you have to take it for all it's worth.


"But it's such a hard club to get a contract with. There are 25 first-team players and more out on loan. I love the club and want to stay but if not I want to stay in Europe."

After a junior career with Knox City, Endeavour United and the Pines, Irvine will never forget the adventures he has had playing with the Bhoys.

"I reckon Celtic an easy club to follow, there is so much passion from the supporters, no half-heartedness. The passion you see at first-team games is beyond anything you could ever see."

Irvine is making the most of his time at home in Melbourne and has met up with as many friends and family as he can.

He won't be back for some time, even when Celtic plays in Melbourne next month, as the under-19 team will be training back in Glasgow.

One thing all his friends have picked up on is the Glaswegian tinge in his accent. "When you are talking with Scotsmen all day and night it's hard not to pick it up. You should hear how I sound when I am over there - it gets much worse."





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Arthur wrote:
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So far the Victory have missed out on Matthew Leckie and Jackson Irvine in the last couple of years...the sooner Melbourne Heart get their youth team up and running the better off we'll all be.


It's not just Victory Joffa, the establishment pathways, VCL, VIS, State Squads, are not the only ways of developing the players. Though the FFV would have you think so.

This is why I go on about a strong second tier and the Clubs should still be involved in strong vibrant competitions.


Victory weren't unaware of him, he played in their NYL team:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/galleries/a/-/article/6419846/image/1/glory-slump-to-defeat/

Its poor judgement to cut him loose, rather than complete ignorance of young players in their own backyard.
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State leagues kill the A-league in regards to development


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Krackovich wrote:
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So far the Victory have missed out on Matthew Leckie and Jackson Irvine in the last couple of years...the sooner Melbourne Heart get their youth team up and running the better off we'll all be.


It's not just Victory Joffa, the establishment pathways, VCL, VIS, State Squads, are not the only ways of developing the players. Though the FFV would have you think so.

This is why I go on about a strong second tier and the Clubs should still be involved in strong vibrant competitions.


Victory weren't unaware of him, he played in their NYL team:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/galleries/a/-/article/6419846/image/1/glory-slump-to-defeat/

Its poor judgement to cut him loose, rather than complete ignorance of young players in their own backyard.


It's always a tough call, which ones to keep and which ones to cut loose. It's a no win situation, what's important is he, and others, don't need to waste away in the lower leagues when oppurtunities like this come around.
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The rise and rise of Jackson Irvine played against Barcelona Youth this week and now in the Scotland U19 Squad.



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JACKSON Irvine has been included in a 25-man under-19 training squad named last week by Scotland national youth teams coach Billy Stark.
The squad will go into camp at Sportsscotland National Centre Inverclyde in Largs from 12–13 September.
This is Irvine’s chance to grab a spot in Stark’s squad to go to Slovenia to play against Belgium, Wales and the host nation in Group 8 of the 2011/12 UEFA under-19 qualifying tournament.
Those games will be played from 21 to 26 September.
The squad named by Stark last week contains only Scottish-based players. He’s already had a close look at lads playing in England, notably Jamie MacLaren from Blackburn Rovers.
Both Melbourne teenagers, MacLaren and Irvine, recently accepted offers to make themselves available for Scotland after being overlooked by Australia.
Although Irvine is named among the midfielders invited to the training camp the Celtic under-19s captain has been playing as a central defender lately.
It’s a busy time for the former Frankston Pines player. He not only has league commitments with Celtic he also is involved in The Next-Gen Series, an under-19 tournament styled on Champions League lines and featuring 16 European clubs.
Celtic is in Group 1 alongside Marseille, Barcelona and Manchester City. Group 2 comprises Liverpool, Sporting Lisbon, Wolfsburg and Molde. Group 3 consists of Ajax, Fenerbache, Aston Villa and Rosenborg and Group 4 comprises Inter Milan, Tottenham, PSV Eindhoven and Basle.
Results so far: Marseille 1 Celtic 0, Liverpool 0 Sporting Lisbon 3, Basel 2 Tottenham 2, Ajax 2 Aston Villa 0, Molde 3 Wolfsburg 1.
The NextGen website is at www.nextgenseries.com and has facebook, Twitter and YouTube links.


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