im pretty sure blacktown city dont do season tickets. not 100% sure though.

good question, not to sure to be honest....

Do all clubs offer season tickets? E.g. If I wanted to buy a season ticket for blacktown FC. Would they sell them or is it just the established clubs (i.e. Ex-NSL = Larger support) that would do this?

Ok I was wrong - see above.

I knew what were you were saying but didn't agree with it at the time. I suppose I was of the opinion that if a kid of 17/18 wasn't playing in an a-league youth side or a NSWPL side he didn't have much chance of going any further anyway. Well I was wrong and that kid that has made a go of it at Celtic shows that we need alternative pathways for 17-21 year olds that have fallen through the cracks.

Apparently Minotaurs found grounds...

re hurstville, could it do with the ongoing issues theyve had with grounds?

Everyone I have spoken too has no idea why any of the 3 clubs got the boot.

Wrong wrt Balmain. Its a different club in the Canterbury District comp.

As far as I am aware not one of Inter, Hurstville or Balmain has received an explanation as to why they were cut from youth league. The first they found out was when FNSW issued the general announcement of the teams for next year. None of them received a phone call, letter, email or anything. FNSW professionalism at its finest, as anyone who has had to deal with these clowns over the years could attest to. Thats hundreds of young players, coaches and staff, not to mention sponsors etc all left in the lurch with no warning whatsoever.

I believe the clubs are exploring the option of a class action in the courts as the FFA has said it can't or won't do anything until they attempt to resolve things with FNSW. But FNSW is just giving everyone the silent treatment so that is pointless. Legal action sounds like a waste of time and money to me. Someone in FNSW doesn't want them in the comp, so if they don't get rid of them this year they will next or the year after. Some things like the disgrace that is FNSW never change.

i think youre right. but even if not, they have, at least for the past couple of seasons, relegated based on club championship. simple.
it goes without saying that whenever there is a restructure this may change a but theyve been consistent the past two seasons at least.

That was the same season when penrith folded though wasn't it?

I was part of the APIA squad in 2009, and we came last in the Club Championship I'm pretty sure...

ive heard the same thing from a couple of reliable sources over the past 24 hours.

wolves will be there next seasion

south coast will survive...somehow.

As far as I'm aware, if the corporation which holds the Football License ceases to exist, then that club is sent to the bottom of the pyramid if it rebadges under a new corporation. This is what happened to Penrith-Nepean United. Nepean Association wanted to go alone and stay at the top level, but they weren't allowed to.

If South Coast Wolves do fold, there is no need to relegate Bankstown. The Premier League would stay at 12 teams.

exactly. end of the day, if apia finsihed last on club championship, they would of gone down. simple. some people on here are a bit over the top when it comes to their constant hammering of FNSW. there were even comments about FNSW somehow being to blame for Penrith Nepean going under even though their financial difficulties were their own doing.

im very interested to see what happens on the south coast though. if they cant be salvaged, do they rebadge again? will the new entity be allowed to take up the wolves position in the PL? if no, who gets the 12th spot?

never a dull day in state league football.

i understand a review is taking place at present about the various axings from the state comps, eg minotaurs from state div 1. anyway, by end of week it should be wrapped up.

personally, i think the governing body must, if they drop any team from any comp, provide reasons, if they are being dropped for any other reason than a regular relegation for coming last.

You mean something like not finishing on the bottom of the Club Championship?

Balmain has over 100 teams in Canterbury District and Inter have 20+ - stop annoying us with bs

I don't know what you're trying to say here? Parra did well and hence are still up in PL? Never said anything about money forcing clubs out of PL. If FNSW get their registration fee then they no longer care about the club's financial fare during the season. I was highlighting the fact that something obviously has been happenned to keep APIA and Wollongong up.

i agree 100 percent most of the state league is about coin, pure and simple. not talent and hard work.they leave these clubs in the top level no matter how crap they perform and dont let the right teams get promoted, exactly like APIa. quite a crap team full of politics and they let the scum think they are king shit charging an arm and a leg to let kids play and using there shit players in the place of a talented player.

its the reason soo many kids have quit, in all the years i spent running around parks i have seen so much talent wasted, quitiing cause the system is all about money and not Ability.

yeah tbh i actually dont mind the club championship to decide on relegation.
as for the lower grades, i do think the FNSW needs to clear alot of things up. personally i would like to see the team finishing 1st get promoted and the team finished last get relegated. if the promoted team doesnt have the finances then the team that won the grand final. if they dont have the finances then the team that finished 2nd and so on.

really? so tell me how on earth parra fc avoided the drop given their financial outlay in the PL this year? strong performances across three grades, thats how.

There are many rumours and such to why these clubs were dumped, with the most common is that FNSW want to align all comps as like Prem and PYL. I still believe it is total cr*p what is going on. There lays some, not much, common sense however. East Balmain were the third choice team playing at their home ground, Hurstville have had problems with their grounds and 18s team. That's just me thinking though, who the f*ck know what goes through FNSW's mind.

MDT however will have the biggest beef with FNSW. Constantly doing well in Div 1, and while they came second for the last two years, the teams which came first were promoted. Their number is finally called, a breath of fresh air for the general area football wise, and it is taken away like candy from a baby. They are all up in arms about it, and rightly so.

But FNSW has always been complete f*cktarsds when it comes to promotion and relegation in all comps. I mean how can APIA do crap in 2009,10 and parts of 08 yet still be there, same with Wollongong. Okay, I understand the history of these clubs. If you want them to stay up, tell and force them to pull their socks up. However West Syd Berries get two years and down the toilet they go. Same with Macarthur and also then there was the removal of Penrith Neapean United. Cast back some more years and there was the famous St George and Bonyrigg fiasco, with FNSW IMO getting it wrong again. Using MDT now, Schofeild has done cr*p all in Super Youth League yet it took them thre whole years to get rid of them. They finally go down, but nothing good comesof it.

FNSW is an absolute joke, and my opinion on Club Championship and Promotion/Relegation is defined in one word. Lottery. The more money you pay the better the chance you have, yet the odds will still be one in a million

Blacktown Derby Baby!

hells yeh.

So when is Football NSW going to explain the youth dumping of Hurstville , Inter Lions & Balmain Esat Div 1 Youth Teams, and also the non promotion of Mt Druitt after winning the club championship....This has been a total disgrace, no prior warnings and considering that Inter & Balmain were in their 1st year at Div 1 Youth and dindt run last in the club championship, a lot of lads left in the wilderness of Football in NSW...I cant believe that no discussion or even an explanation has been produced by Football NSW...

Can someone please help mysel and others on what the hell went on here......

What a load of crap. the whole thing is a shambles!! The CCF is back running the rep program because it was a rushed , i'll informed decision by them. Some of your comments are laughable! Wait to your boy get's to the end of the "pathway" and see if you opinion will change! And as for the "spitting the dummy" call read this!!
http://digitaledition-wyong.expressadvocate.com.au/default.aspx?iid=50577&startpage=page0000065#folio=063

Now, did i say the CC (mariners) youth playing in the NSWSL next year and the PYL in 2013 is a bad thing or did i say ?

So the CC youth are going to play in the NSWSL next year and the PYL in 2013. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing.

The only teams to get the chop was the senior and under 21 mens sides and being a full fee paying member of CCF I dont mind this either. The fact that lightning players spat the dummy in the newspapers and said they would go straight to Sydney or Newcastle rather than to come back to the local association and give back to the local football community that has been subsidising them reinforces that fact for me.

Anyway below is a link to the CCF junior football development plan so you can judge for yourself. My eldest is in one of the regional teams at the moment and he loves it. Even if he doesn't get through the experience has been fantastic. The training and games are at a higher level than normal club football and he gets to play with some of the better players from our local area that he has played against for the last 5 years.


http://www.ccfootball.com.au/UserFiles/File/Development/CENTRAL%20COAST%20JUNIOR%20FOOTBALL%20DEVELOPMENT%20PLAN.pdf

Killing CC Lightning and removing any chance of CC seniors and youth playing in NSWSL is throwing the baby out with the bath water. There was no necessity to be one or the other, with one a step in the elite development ladder and community club and the other, the top rung.

Now, there's an enormous gap between low level, club grade football and aleague youth. It's akin to Wollongong entering the aleague and the Wolves being removed from local community football with similar claimed reasoning for doing so.