Benjamin
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Perhaps if Fox acknowledged the history of the game, talked about it, linked players from the past to the commentators, coaches and senior players of today - we might get a better context for the history of the game.
It was really great to watch the Viduka tribute last year when they pulled up the old Knights footage.
Failing replays of old games - would love to see Fox get a couple of older players each week and pull up highlights from their best/most memorable games.
End of the day - such a show would be cheap filler for Fox and would provide a little more 'human interest' about the characters in the game. Human interest can only grow the bond between supporters and the game.
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kapow!
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Blackmac79 wrote:kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? fuck the mainstream. they don't watch it now anyway why would we care. Football fans are not the mainstream in this country so stop talking about it. ps. I want old games on tv. Maybe not for your generation but for mine there is mainstream interest [by mainstream i mean diverse] it's just not at the level we want yet. It needs to appeal to that to have TV interest, otherwise it's youtube at best.
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kapow!
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thupercoach wrote:kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? See here's the thing, if you packaged and presented it right it would definitely attract a following, especially if it was screened in the off season - I mean, not everyone is interested in a diet of aussie rules and a couple of rugby codes. You could have a presented like say Bozza rave on about how great Alan Davidson, John Kosmina or Marshall Soper were, and then show an old Socceroo match from the '80s or an Olympic game with Soper cutting it up. Or focus on Frank Farina and show highlights of the Australia-Yugoslavia win and then the Australia-Canada WC qualifier which went down to the wire and Farina scored with an overhead. Plenty of ways to do it. It would never outrate the World Cup but could definitely attract a good audience on Fox or SBS. I was looking at the footy flashbacks what blackmissionary was referring to and they started off smaller and got lengthened as it suited seven. I really think as of now the most you could hope for is a 'burst' segment on foxtel. For it to get any bigger the problem as i see it is the replays will always have reduced interest compared to new footage, so the a-league interest needs get to a high enough level where the replays are worth doing and and obviously it needs to be of interest to the a-league or socceroo audiences, i don't think the OP was factoring this in.
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kapow!
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Just to correct this waffle, the replays were *not* shown to my knowledge but that had since changed which was pointed out to me, from what i can see even as of 2008 it appears they were on 7two as filler. I did not require that point to support my main point which is still true. As for community work, did you ever think that you don't know what others do because they don't preach to everyone on a forum about it? You've never been an a-league member or attendee you’ve said so many times yourself. You're middle aged. You don't have a reason for posting in such a poor manner.
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thupercoach
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Blackmac79 wrote:kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? fuck the mainstream. they don't watch it now anyway why would we care. Football fans are not the mainstream in this country so stop talking about it. ps. I want old games on tv. I wouldn;t even care if it was given a graveyard timeslot - if I knew it was on I'd just record it. Could definitely get a cult following.
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Blackmac79
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kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? fuck the mainstream. they don't watch it now anyway why would we care. Football fans are not the mainstream in this country so stop talking about it. ps. I want old games on tv.
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thupercoach
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kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? See here's the thing, if you packaged and presented it right it would definitely attract a following, especially if it was screened in the off season - I mean, not everyone is interested in a diet of aussie rules and a couple of rugby codes. You could have a presented like say Bozza rave on about how great Alan Davidson, John Kosmina or Marshall Soper were, and then show an old Socceroo match from the '80s or an Olympic game with Soper cutting it up. Or focus on Frank Farina and show highlights of the Australia-Yugoslavia win and then the Australia-Canada WC qualifier which went down to the wire and Farina scored with an overhead. Plenty of ways to do it. It would never outrate the World Cup but could definitely attract a good audience on Fox or SBS.
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thupercoach
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kapow! wrote:Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day? See here's the thing, if you packaged and presented it right it would definitely attract a following, especially if it was screened in the off season - I mean, not everyone is interested in a diet of aussie rules and a couple of rugby codes. You could have a presented like say Bozza rave on about how great Alan Davidson, John Kosmina or Marshall Soper were, and then show an old Socceroo match from the '80s or an Olympic game with Soper cutting it up. Or focus on Frank Farina and show highlights of the Australia-Yugoslavia win and then the Australia-Canada WC qualifier which went down to the wire and Farina scored with an overhead. Plenty of ways to do it. It would never outrate the World Cup but could definitely attract a good audience on Fox or SBS.
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skeptic
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Quote:=kapow! That was a mistake, stupid is being a middle aged man and still not being able to string more than two posts together without falling back into swearing and being abusive. No, stupid is making a claim without substantiation and continuing to support it until shown undeniable proof of being incorrect before admitting.... Quote: Ok i don't watch much TV these days
you didn't have a damn clue in making the claim in the first place so you obviously attempted to lie for advantage. Quote:Sad is doing that behaviour while you have never been a member or even attended an a-league match. At least the rest of the fans on this site can either attribute passion or immaturity to their behaviour. No, sad is making a claim without substantiation and continuing to support it until shown undeniable proof of being incorrect before admitting.... Quote: Ok i don't watch much TV these days
You didn't have a damn clue in making the claim in the first place so you obviously attempted to lie for advantage. And you silly little man, I'm very much involved with the local and regional game, likely investing quadruple the time you do yourself, have been to aleague games despite living on the edge of the damn outback making it extremely difficult to do so. So, please, stick your head back up your arse from whence it came, you trashy human being. Edited by skeptic: 27/4/2012 08:48:54 PM
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I personally would love to see old NSL games. Just to learn more of Australian football history, as I have really only been passionately behind it over the last few years, seeing old games would be great!
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kapow!
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Would the mainstream want to watch that? Ccnsidering no one watched it back in the day?
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Thinking about it, I would love to see a 1 hour weekly show where they do nothing but screen an edited game froesm Australia's football past. Examples can be:
1974 Socceroo WC matches WC and Olympics qualifiers '88 Bicentennial Gold Cup Olyroo games from '88 to say 2000
There were some great triumphs in there, be great to relive them.
Then there were also great club games - grand finals and semi-finals, as well as some wonderful club games at NSL level.
Finally I would love to see a few games from the first couple of HAL seasons.
It would be a great show to watch - either live or to record, watch and enjoy later.
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kapow!
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Ok i don't watch much TV these days, but you do realise it has no influence on the main point? Blackmissionary wrote:It shouldn't even be just NSL matches, there were lots of touring teams back in the day, some great national team matches from lots of different age groups as well. It won't be anything because it won't rate and has the potential to damage the product produced *today*. That's why i've been telling you the need to open the game up to as many people as possible something you seem willing to ignore because your club wouldn’t stay as it is. skeptic wrote:kapow! wrote: AFL isn't shown now because it doesn't rate Is he stupid because he doesn't know they are telecast as well as rate well or is he stupid because he is lying and thinks his lies are engulfed by naive fools whom have an inability to check the validity of claims themselves? Stupidity personified. Edited by skeptic: 26/4/2012 10:37:03 PM That was a mistake, stupid is being a middle aged man and still not being able to string more than two posts together without falling back into swearing and being abusive. Sad is doing that behaviour while you have never been a member or even attended an a-league match. At least the rest of the fans on this site can either attribute passion or immaturity to their behaviour. Edited by kapow!: 27/4/2012 07:19:34 PM
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skeptic
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kapow! wrote: AFL isn't shown now because it doesn't rate Is he stupid because he doesn't know they are telecast as well as rate well or is he stupid because he is lying and thinks his lies are engulfed by naive fools whom have an inability to check the validity of claims themselves? Stupidity personified. Edited by skeptic: 26/4/2012 10:37:03 PM
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Blackmissionary
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It shouldn't even be just NSL matches, there were lots of touring teams back in the day, some great national team matches from lots of different age groups as well.
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Blackmissionary
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kapow! wrote:AFL isn't shown now because it doesn't rate and that's of the same popular competition! Go fuck yourself. http://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/event.aspx?program_id=168950&event_id=45371227®ion_id=94
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WTF? Foxtel has classic NRL matches on all the time.
I was just watching one last week while sitting in a pub with some mates.
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kapow!
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krisskrash wrote:kapow! wrote:No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league. Both the AFL and EPL does. Wouldn't it have been great as a lead in to the Grand Final to have shown previous finals that Glory have played in, that Ange has won etc. 2000 NSL final between Perth and Wollongong has probably been one of the greatest finals I've seen in this country. I don't follow the EPL so i wouldn’t know and the AFL doesn't, the grand final marathon is quite different to what the OP is referring to, i don't mind that idea but of course they are not going to include any bitter teams who are not in the a-league. They would aim to support their competition not introduce things that will divide it. Blackmissionary wrote:kapow! wrote:No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league. Well, if it isn't Mr Sunshine and Rainbows with his usual shtick. FoxFooty channel used to play old games back in the day, not sure about now, channel 7 plays a classic AFL match on Sundays. AFL also has a 'name a game' service, where you can buy copies of old games. Australian soccer's broadcast history by comparison is locked away in the archives. Buying is different no reason why they shouldn't be able to buy. AFL isn't shown now because it doesn't rate and that's of the same popular competition! I’m sure if someone was really dedicated they could get them on youtube or something like that but if you’re a fan of the *game* why would you *now*? Currently things of that natuare are only used for spite from your lot.
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Blackmissionary
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kapow! wrote:No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league. Well, if it isn't Mr Sunshine and Rainbows with his usual shtick. FoxFooty channel used to play old games back in the day, not sure about now, channel 7 plays a classic AFL match on Sundays. AFL also has a 'name a game' service, where you can buy copies of old games. Australian soccer's broadcast history by comparison is locked away in the archives.
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krisskrash wrote:kapow! wrote:No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league. Both the AFL and EPL does. Wouldn't it have been great as a lead in to the Grand Final to have shown previous finals that Glory have played in, that Ange has won etc. 2000 NSL final between Perth and Wollongong has probably been one of the greatest finals I've seen in this country. The NRL does it as well
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kapow! wrote:No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league. Both the AFL and EPL does. Wouldn't it have been great as a lead in to the Grand Final to have shown previous finals that Glory have played in, that Ange has won etc. 2000 NSL final between Perth and Wollongong has probably been one of the greatest finals I've seen in this country.
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kapow!
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No sport puts old games up of any league fans only want to see the new games, the most they put on of old games is a 30 second highlight reel, you certainly wouldn't put up whole games of a league that the majority of Australians did not agree with and which doesn't compliment the a-league.
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thupercoach
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Love the idea, as well as old HAL matches.
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Blackmissionary
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The broadcast and ownership rights situation with regards to NSL matches is complicated.
Previously, fans have sought to obtain copies of matches, but the costs of even obtaining access to a single match run into the hundreds of dollars.
The best is for the people who footage of matches to upload them to youtube, or if one was doing full length matches instead of highlights, create a torrent.
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tom180
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I know right! Well Les tweeted me and said he's forwarded it on Internally, so it's all in the hands of the SBS now.
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tom180 wrote:I have been recently been watching old NSL highlights on YouTube and than thought, why don't Foxsports/SBS show old games on TV? It would be great to see Foz, Arnold and the younger days of Emerton playing so I emailed FFA and they responded:
"Hi Tom, Thank you for your email. FFA would be more than happy to discuss broadcast rights with any potential broadcaster, but the decision to re-broadcast those matches is entirely up to the broadcasters (SBS, Fox Sports, etc). You may want to contact them to find out if they are interested in replaying. Regards, FFA Media"
It would be fantastic to see, Les Murray seems to be interested. ID LOVE TO SEE THE OLD NSL GAMES WITH THE ABC commentary team. show me the preston game when john markovski scored from nearly half way, or damien mori's beauty from the kick off against syd utd (poor john perosh), or any games featuring my favourite player Manis Lamond, i could go on and on!
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tom180
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I have been recently been watching old NSL highlights on YouTube and than thought, why don't Foxsports/SBS show old games on TV? It would be great to see Foz, Arnold and the younger days of Emerton playing so I emailed FFA and they responded:
"Hi Tom, Thank you for your email. FFA would be more than happy to discuss broadcast rights with any potential broadcaster, but the decision to re-broadcast those matches is entirely up to the broadcasters (SBS, Fox Sports, etc). You may want to contact them to find out if they are interested in replaying. Regards, FFA Media"
It would be fantastic to see, Les Murray seems to be interested.
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