I quite like these sorts of drills to help with ball control on the hard court - the action starts at 1:45.

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Yep I'm coaching three kids sides this summer (8s,10s and 12s) but am trying to limit the instruction to subbing players on and off the court. The younger ones may need a bit more help as they've had little exposure to the indoor game but the older teams have a few youth PL players and very good club "A" players so hopefully they will enjoy the freedom to express themselves on the court.

There seems to be a lot of good stuff around at this time of the year in this state, where the football milieu is progressing quickly forwards. There are a lot of social type rosters and mixed teams. There is not much coaching involved, just playing, with little onus on tactics.

For some of the NPL players, who have had extensive periods of match tactics and serious game plans, futsal and outdoor SSG rosters seem like a lot of fun and a rest from a lot of outdoor training, where tactics, technique and game sense are paramount.

have to say thats a really good idea, wish some comeptitions here did that 5 or 6 years ago when we used to regularly play sports together. I played mixed Netball awhile ago which was fun, but if something like that happened for indoor football, i would consider asking some friends if they were interested in playing.

An interesting phenomenon here, is that there are mixed premier league rosters. The rule is that a male goal, must be followed by a female goal, then a male goal, etc. Alternating gender goals, occur on the same team.

The mixed roster has been great for a female relative of mine, who is in the state senior futsal team, being able to play with outdoor male NPL players in the same team and the opposition.






Edited by Decentric: 23/9/2013 09:00:33 PM

Bump - it's futsal season gents.

The weekend after next I'm taking my U7s into their first Futsal tournament. I'm so excited to be training them for it, they've dominated SSF for two years now losing only twice in 32 matches.

I'll be playing 5-a-side incl a GK for the first time. An training for a diamond ahead of him. Thoughts?

If PL said this and worked for FFA, then I know at least three FFA staff coaches who would totally disagree with him.

There is certainly a difference of opinion within the FFA ranks on the value of futsal for outdoor football.

The FFA futsal advocates are frustrated with the sceptics.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/futsal-key-to-fulhams-flourishing-fledglngs.html


Wednesday 12 June 2013

Youth Focus: Futsal key to Fulham's flourishing fledglings

In a week devoted to Youth Development, Fulham Academy coach Geoff Noonan talks futsal

Fulham U12s lift the trophy after winning the Barclays Premier League Futsal Finals

West Brom players receive advice during the Barclays Premier League Futsal Finals


The 2013 Barclays Premier League Futsal Finals took place in Leeds over two days
The incorporation of futsal in the Premier League's Games Programme has helped young players in the United Kingdom become as good as their continental counterparts according to Fulham Academy Coach Developer Geoff Noonan. "Having done lots of foreign tournaments in the Under-9 to Under-14 age group the development of our players compares favourably to that of other European countries," he told premierleague.com.

"The development of our players compares favourably to that of other European countries"
Geoff Noonan

This week, as premierleague.com focuses on Youth Development and the changes that have already been made in the first 12 months of a £320m four-year Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP), Noonan offers an optimistic take on the future of tomorrow's stars.

Noonan is particularly positive about his own academy players who are already beginning to reap the benefits of Premier League-organised events, such as the 2013 Barclays Premier League Futsal Finals from which his Fulham's Under-12s emerged triumphant.

"The boys have loved it," said the 46-year-old. "Our U12s were very happy being winners but, irrespective of that, we've come away with lots of learning and lots of great development for our players, having played for two days and tried lots of skills and challenged ourselves against different teams in the event."

After three years of consultation and development the EPPP came into force at the beginning of the 2012/13 season, with its chief aim to create more and better home-grown players who are properly equipped to succeed at the highest levels of the Premier League.

The introduction of futsal as part of the first stage of the three-phase Performance Pathway - the U9 to U11 Foundation stage - appears significant, with the boys gleaning the advantages of having played in the numerous events staged over recent years by the Premier League.


Noonan is a leading advocate of the five-a-side sport he believes has been a major factor in his youth teams' success and which serves to counter the received wisdom that the United Kingdom is failing to produce players who are comfortable on the ball.

Coach Developer Geoff Noonan has been at Fulham Academy for nine years

Fulham score against West Brom on their way to the national futsal title

Fulham's players celebrate after winning the Barclays Premer League Futsal Finals

"Futsal is a five-a-side game which is normally played indoors on a hard court surface area," he explained. "We've had it in our programme for four years through the Premier League and accessed the various activities and futsal tournaments the Premier League has run.

"Futsal brings benefits from the age of nine, right through to 14"
Geoff Noonan

"We include futsal in our syllabus from the age of nine through to 14s, so it goes from our foundation phase into our Youth Development phase and we feel that the benefits it brings are enormous. It's highly technical, but also highly tactical because it's a five-a-side game in which the players have to be skilful, quick-thinking, good at one v ones, good at wall-passing and good at movement. It brings benefits from the age of nine, right through to the age 14."

Those benefits have already begun to take shape in the form of silverware. Fulham have won the last two Under-18 Barclays Premier League titles and lifted the Under-19 Dallas Cup at the end of March, and the younger generations at the West London club are also excelling themselves. A year after the Under-15s came runners-up in the Barclays Premier League Futsal Finals, the Under-12 won the competition outright.


The differences between futsal and orthodox five-a-side football are small but essential in helping nurture talent. The ball is heavier, thereby encouraging it to be played along the floor for longer and promoting passing and a focus on ball skill. Other rules also help promote close control.

"There's a four-second rule where if the ball goes out players have to play the ball back in very quickly, which encourages quick decision-making and movement, and the back-pass rule is probably the biggest benefit," added Noonan. "Once the ball has been played out from the goalkeeper to a defender he can't play it back to the goalkeeper, so you have to attack and go forward either by beating a player or by passing forwards."


In the Foundation Stage players are encouraged to develop a mastery of the ball, attributed a minimum quantity of guaranteed game time, offered multiple age-appropriate game formats and exposed to a dedicated futsal programme.


Noonan believes the latter has been integral in helping Fulham’s fledglings flourish. "There's no question that it encourages skill, and individual skill, such as one v ones," he said. "Futsal is just part of the overall programme but it's been a good part, especially in the winter months.


Fulham's Patrick Roberts


U16 forward Patrick Roberts has blossomed at Fulham's Academy


"To be able to access a Premier League-organised event in January or February in an indoor arena when we know it will go ahead, knowing that it's being played to encourage skill and not out in the freezing cold on a heavy pitch, when you're trying to produce technical players, is the key difference. It's played a major part for us. We've found the Premier League events to be excellent and we've been really happy to support them."

"It's crucial to have these events. The credibility it gives to the Games Programme and the excitement it brings for the boys to play different opposition is priceless"
Geoff Noonan

Although at Foundation Stage the nurturing of ball skills is given precedence above winning matches, Fulham's success in recent futsal tournaments and in older youth competitions suggests that they are on the right track. The U12s had to qualify for the Barclays Premier League Futsal finals by coming in the top two in a southern section qualifying event, held in East London.

They then progressed to the finals, which were held in Leeds over two days and which involved the National Futsal champions from Spain, Inter Movistar. "It proved an invaluable experience for the players concerned. It just gave the boys a real chance to play against some really excellent teams and individuals from clubs across the country," said Noonan. "The Spanish champions came over as well so it was good to be able to compare ourselves against them as well.


"It's crucial to have these events. The year before our Under-15s went to the national event and ended up playing Barcelona at futsal as well. The credibility it gives to the Games Programme and the excitement it brings for the boys to play different opposition is priceless. To play against different clubs in Europe presents different technical and tactical challenges and it’s an experience we really want to give our boys at Fulham."

Premier League futsal events

The Premier League has been running national futsal tournaments for several years and Noonan believes they are improving in quality. "They get better every year," he said. "The events have grown in terms of the age groups that have been able to access it. The organisation and set-up for the finals has improved each year and it's really helped the players. The players have experienced it year on year and we've probably seen more development each year we've gone where our players have improved playing that game and becoming more skilful."

One player to have reaped the rewards of the Games Programme is academy forward Pat Roberts, who has benefitted from futsal during his progression through the youth ranks. The 16-year-old played in Fulham's Barclays Under-18 Premier League Final and is now an England Under-16 international.

The level of organisation for these futsal tournaments means that the negative perception on the development of young players in England is one that is not shared by Noonan. "Having done lots of foreign tournaments and played against foreign opposition in the U9-U14 age groups the development of our players compares favourably to that of other European countries.

"Having spent time playing against teams from Spain, France, Germany and Holland we feel that our players are developing very well and in comparison. The challenge is to keep encouraging the development of individual players, of individual skills, to form the best players rather than the best teams; that’s the challenge at these younger age groups as the boys go through the academy."

Even within FFA there are polarised opinions about the value of futsal.

Some think it is great for development, others abhor it.

You don't have to convince me of the benefits of Futsal thats for sure.

I have seen it with my own children and those of my firends.

They say in Futsal "Let the game be the teacher." and I agree whole heartedley.

A friend of mine who is now a SAP coach and has his AFC B Licence five years ago was with Vikings Futsal and his job was to start an U10 Girls team, the team was not "selected" in a trial situation of the 8 girls 7 are playing at the highest level 4 have become State Outdoor players. Which is not a bad success rate in any one's book.

A significant amount of a players development must include Futsal, prefreably in an enviroment of minimal intereference much like unstructured play time or a replacement for street football.

Ps. Most of the talented junior players also participate in Futsal especially between the ages of 10 to 14.

Krones3, Decentric...Yep, I'll back this up also. I've seen it time and time and time again. Youngsters who are exposed to the indoor game are more confident on the ball, have a better understanding of passing/moving, touch and the list goes on.

And yet we still face strong resistance to using futsal/indoor as a training tool from certain coaching mentalities.

I've seen this too.

Edited by Decentric: 10/7/2013 12:26:06 PM

Not wanting to start anther thread on futsal, I thought I'd add to this one, although not strictly on topic.

One thing I've found that with coaching one particular payer for some time, one of the main issues I had was trying to coach moving towards the ball when taking the first touch, rather than waiting for it.

Another was taking the first touch away from an opponent when under pressure.

Also, using the body to protect the ball with the first touch.

I've found that that particular player has improved immeasurably in these facets of game, by learning them, inadvertently, through playing a lot of futsal, almost year round.

The player has also become confident with the La Croqueta signature move of Iniesta. This has extrapolated to outdoor football too.

However, I believe that if the player had played 5v5 outdoor in the same size pitch as futsal, the results would have been slightly better.

At the end of each season i split my team up into futsal teams and my children join futsal teams themselves. They have great fun and come back onto the grass better players.My only concern as i have said is i have seen older players who seem to be unable to find the back of the net and as they continually fail to find it they lose confidence. Just an observation and it may be worth practicing shooting first day in the new season.

Add Rojas who upto the age of 16 had only played Indoor Soccer (I assume Futsal) and school soccer.

In another thread I know players who have played a lot of futsal in the spring season, even social futsal. They have also augmented this with social outdoor 11v11 or/and outdoor 7v7.

V League (Tassie state league) senior coaches have been happy with these players in the pre-season.

Tom Rogic , our brightest young talent, has also played a lot of futsal. He has also participated in the Coerver program.







Edited by Decentric: 14/1/2013 10:18:26 AM

Too busy looking after his own interests.

I don't like this bloke Lonton.

If correct he sounds like the kind of bloke that would never discover a Rogic or Rojas.

Lonton is the TD of western pride and he told me himself that he hated futsal he also said there was no such think as a flick pass and that players should not bring futsal shit onto the field.

sad to hear that APL entity Western Pride is stopping players from playing Futsal.

Regarding shooting ability I have seen this a couple of times and I am seeing now in outdoor and indoor.

In my outdoor club our head coach does not do any shooting drills or practise from U11 to the U16's.
All the drills/sessions are technique, SSG, passing orientated. Yet as the boys are getting older they can shoot as well as any of the teams they are up against, last years U14 scoring over 80 goals in their season and the U16s over 60 goals.

i also saw similar with current state skillaroos coach when he had aan academy which was skills/technique orientated very little shooting and only as a fun game. The better the kids got technically the better they could shoot.

While lets not forget that Rogic and Rojas were brought up on Futsal not to mention a CR7, Messi and Neymar. My experience leads me to believe the better your technical ability the better your shooting will be. Of course there are exceptions there alaways are in our game.

Just a reminder to all that the FFA Futsal Nationals started yesterday results can be found here:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-8399-0-241518-0&a=COMPS&seasonID=1802211

Edited by Arthur: 8/1/2013 01:38:18 PM

This to me is a big problem in outdoor as well as futsal.

Sometimes going through past development systems, including state pathway, coaches expected someone before, or after them , to do a ot of technique training.

This is what drew me into coaching better players. It seemed there was a void.








Edited by Decentric: 8/1/2013 12:12:50 PM

Interesting point, Krones.

I know a player who thinks that going into pre-season, all the futsal, played in the spring season, augmented with outdoor football 11v11 and SSGs, has given the player a lot more confidence in running with the ball and beating players 1v1.

This is a senior state league player too.

It seems to me that with all the player advancement we have made over the past few years one that has been lost is placing a ball swerving a strike and accuracy when striking.I dont think a futsal ball can help this it must be practiced with a normal football.
I it is a small price to pay considering the benefits futsal gives still it is a loss.

Arthur...I'm in WA. I can't remember the presenter's name but he did a good job. I just thought that it was very general in nature. Maybe I was expecting too much for an intro course :)

krones3...when you move from futsal to outdoor there is some adjustment but I've never had a problem with my kick outdoors. The outdoor ball is obviously more "bouncy" but futsal teaches you to really observe your first touch so I find this skill comes in right away. I also find having the extra space outdoors really great. You have more room to move and operate in. I also find futsal teaches you to make your passes accurate, fast and low.

However, there are some things you need to be aware of. One for example, is positioning. In the outdoor game you can't just roam around at will. You have to play in a more rigid system and as part of a bigger team. I also tend to rely less on the tricks and fancy stuff...not that I'm that good at them :)

With coaching outdoor kids I find as long as I make them aware of some of these differences the kids adapt very fast to both games.

I think futsal is great for tricks, 1v1, spacial awareness, speed of thought.

but

Do you think futsal changes you kick for the field game?

Where are you located Stackerjam and who took your Futsal Certificate course?

Wow! The range of topics in that course is interesting.

Actually, when I did the FFA futsal coaching certificate I was surprised at how basic the course was. I guess it's an intro for coaching in futsal but it was very very general in nature. It wasn't age specific and it didn't really address the differences in technical skills of older or younger players. Also, there was very little in the way of tactics (this probably comes in at the licence level). Still it was fun and I enjoyed the experience.

Any chance that tafe could offer something similar to this

http://www.henley-cov.ac.uk/subjects/sports-industry/futsal-level-3-btec-diploma/
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