My sources say it's a done deal. But also here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/frank-lampard-set-transfer-manchester-3790264

On what kind of a deal?

Can't be a 10 game loan :|

-PB

The Mirror... LOL

Actually the mirror came after. My sources are within the club.same as when villa and duff were confirmed.

Won't be guest ad villa taken that spot. I believe it will be for the full international marquee spot

It will be a 10 game stint. He's off to NYC afterwards

But as an Int Marquee?

-PB

Apparently nope, will be a loan stint and so will just count as a normal visa player with City paying some small fee, and by small I mean less than 100k

I don't know about that. It's one of those loop holes I thought the ffa had iron out. Otherwise too easy for city to bring 4 visa players from man city as "loan deals" I would be very surprised if they get away only applying 100k for cap on lampard.

Nothing suss.

That said, if any A-League club has an opportunity to bring a Frank Lampard to the league, I say fuck the cap.

Nah, just a 10 or so game stint as a loan player. They will pay him minimum wage and make him a regular visa player. They can then replace him when he leaves the club.

Brilliant.

But is this not what everyone was worried about when City took over?...

Thought his wages @ NYCFC came into some account with the cap?

-PB

I don't think anyone, including the FFA, knows how the hell loans from overseas work with the cap, let alone inside co-owned clubs.

Why is it a worry? It's fantastic!

I would prefer they rorted the cap than use a 10 game player as their international marquee. Seems like a wasted opportunity given their resources. I've never given much of a fuck about policing of the cap though. It will be interesting playing them first up - hopefully we won't be flogged by too many.

Agreed, we really need some clarification on this, from where I'm sitting, City will win the premiership, and quite easily, with international stars all within the salary cap.

Because it can lopside the competition and make it unbalanced? :-s

-PB

Seems like a waste of a visa spot, you would have to question the quality of player they could sign in January when he leaves.

The rules are actually straight forward - whatever the loaning club (i.e. Heart) are paying is what goes against the cap. If they are paying nothing then the minimum A-League salary goes against the cap. I used to have a link to the actual contracting document but it is dead now unfortunately

Wow...now that's a "creative" use of the salary cap. Pay him unlimited at one club overseas whilst paying a minimal amount for a 10 game stint in Australia. And once he is gine after his 10 games, they can sign another import to count toward their allowable five.

Surely that's against the spirit of the salary cap. But whatever, most of the big HAL clubs will start doing the same. All it'll take is identifying which MLS players want some extra cash and go from there. Heck, we might end up with Defoe or Henry. Or Cahill.

We currently only have two imports, Nikola and Milos. We sign a #9 for the season, say Ameobi, as marquee. Then we go to Cahill on a 10 game guest stint and say Henry for ten matches before the MLS starts. That's still only 4 imports.

In the meantime, we line up another import, say that German winger, and he can start training with the team as a "triallist". When Henry and Cahill are gone, in comes the German to replace Henry. And we still have room for one more import.

As for paying Henry, put down a figure of $200,000 for 10 matches. What David Traktovenko transfers from Russia into the NY Bulls account against Henry's salary increase is between him and the Russian tax department.

That's how easy it would be to rort the salary cap.

On the plus side, the level of interest could rise to the point where most other clubs can start to afford this calibre of player.. lets hope something really good comes out of it

From extra bums on seats and additional advertising, plus whatever uplift Foxtel pay for their next TV deal against higher ratings?

I like it.

The only thing is, then we might as well just throw the salary cap out the window and operate in a proper, competitive business market.

I honestly believe having visa players outside of the cap would improve the league immeasurably. with next season visa spots going down to 4, that would still be 7 guaranteed aussie players in the staring XI of each club, and the 4 visa players will automatically be quality since clubs won't want to waste these spots. league would improve so much, much more interest in it from home and abroad, and clubs will not be able to dominate with just 4 quality players, encouraging smarter recruiting. most clubs will probably use the 4 spots on attackers however which might stop a new generation coming through so that would definitely need to be addressed but I think overall that would be really good for the league

It's been motioned before, but I think it will eventually have to go this way and we'll enivitably see the decline of half the clubs in the comp without Sydney and Melbourne money.

Although, I think the only way to combat some of that disinterest in a predictable comp is...... Pro/rel 8-[

No one cared when CCM rorted the rules in 07/08.

Explain to us, which rule exactly was 'rorted'?

Gonna be announced some time this week officially I'm hearing.

Gonna be a complete circus. Hope they are unstable as fuck after 10 rounds an go from 1st to 7th on goal difference.

Seems the FFA is the hold up in getting Lampard on a loan deal.

OK if you loan Rogic and Troisi, and have the FFA pay for half of Cahill to go to Sydney though.

Really, you're going to try and compare these situations and complain? :lol:

Really? :lol:

-PB

Edited by mvfcarsenal16.8: 8/7/2014 11:00:38 PM

Its no different. Other than Lampard>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rogic, Troisi and Cahill put together.

Edited by stefcep: 9/7/2014 09:57:07 AM