In the paper in England today it said Theo Walcott was a certainty for selection. Dont be surprised if its someone from left field who is dropped.


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article The Wait For Roo Cull Goes On ?
SOCCEROO fans will have to remain patient a little longer before discovering which players have been culled from the Australian squad with Pim Verbeek set to reveal his chosen 23 this evening.

Have your say.

In the paper in England today it said Theo Walcott was a certainty for selection. Dont be surprised if its someone from left field who is dropped.

whats happened to ruka? if his getting picked how come he hasnt had any game time.

Bit surprised Kennedy didn't come off after he scored TBH. But I wouldn't worry about Ruka. He'll be in the squad. Might not take the pitch though.

Before the denmark game I would have cut moore straight out. There are more deserving and more capable players available and let Neil and Schwartzer supply the experience. However apart from some mistakes early he did seem to improve, even if the commentators weren't prepared to mention the mistakes he made. Our defensive unit looks tight and stubborn and he is part of the mongrel there.

Pity they have to cut anyone :-(

But Walcott is a right winger...?


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Given that we are light on with attacking options, I'd take both Vidosic and Garcia and cut Valeri. Not we need him in addition to Grella, Culina and Jedinak, especially when we have guys like Emerton and Wilkshire who can also play there.

Remove Garcia. Worse than a pile of horseshit on a hot day.

itll be out of Jedinak and Valeri, I dont think he wouldve took Garcia off if he didnt think hed seen enough to get a spot. My bet is Valeri

Me thinks its going to be R.Williams. just a guess

I hope not, good player and versitile as well. He should be there.

Edited by Tyson_85: 2/6/2010 01:19:45 PM

Not saying he shouldn't . Just not having seen him for any of the last 2 games and his
injury problems prior to getting into camp makes me wonder. Like i said a guess.

Why fifa has to limit the number to 23? It is such an important event and some teams will obviously have to play a lot more than 3 games. I would like to have at least 25 players at my disposure.

England 23 FYI.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/interactive/2010/jun/01/world-cup-2010-england-squad

From http://www.goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup-2010/2010/06/02/1954227/australia-coach-pim-verbeek-delays-public-announcement-of-23-man-

"Verbeek has informed goalkeeper Eugene Galekovic and youngsters Tommy Oar and James Holland that they will not be competing in at the finals."

my guess, it will be Richard Garcia going i was that impressed with him against denmark.

jedinak and valeri's names are also in the hat as we have too many central playing midfielders.

I hope its not R Williams, as he provides great cover at RB and central midfield (which would allow one of the DMs to be cut).....but I fear it could be given his injury problems....I would feel so sorry for him and the blame would lie with gordon strachan for continuing to play him injured even once boro's season was over....it would be unfortunate so I hope not.

It could/should be one of the DM's because we have so many...but to be honest I'd feel sorry for one of them because they are not the worst players in the squad - just too many options in the one position.

If it were a direct choice between garcia and vidosic, I'd take vidosic. Garcia did not look great last night and Vidosic has looked better the last couple of games.

Jedi or Garcia will be the last player cut imo. Doubt it will be Williams

Did anyone see the interview before the match last night? basically he said Garcia is going to make the cut from what i understood..

If it's Jedinak or Vidosic, I think I might cry.

VALERI - what does he add?

A number of players competing for squads for this WC have not made their final squads due largely to fitness/form issues, notably Benni McCarthy.

Garcia may've been unlucky with injury this season, but you can see his performances haven't been the best for Australia, especially in these recent friendlies, including against Denmark last night. Meanwhile young Vidosic is fit and showing good form, including for the NT now, at just the right time, including scoring that goal against NZ. With our lack of striking options, whoever of Garcia/Vidosic make the final squad will be utilised as much as a striking/final third option, especially off the bench, than further back on the right flank. Vidosic has demonstrated he can be more effective for the NT and can provide a little more of a threat for the opposition, especially with his speed and general movement on the pitch, aswell as his technical touch in interplay. I again noticed this difference between the two, in the match against Denmark last night.

If Garcia had, had the kind of season with Hull that he had, last season, then he surely would've secured his spot, but now he's being linked to Championship clubs (Coventry) and tbh it was his breaking into the EPL which was the reason he achieved the long awaited call into the NT side, in the first place. And he will be into his early 30s come 2014, so having Vidosic in there, who should be a key player come 2014, is another bonus/incentive, Post-2010 legacy wise.

And in regards to our four DMs - Pim clearly favours having two holding midfielders (Grella & Culina), so it would make sense if both Valeri AND Jedinak made the final squad, as back up holding/central midfielders #3 and 4. Especially as both have performed well with the NT, especially in recent times, and that includes against Denmark last night. Also, Culina can play in a number of positions, especially on that right hand side, so his flexibility also means the squad kind of has only 3 DMs, if one knows what I mean, as Culina can cover a number of areas in the squad. Same goes for some other players, like Kewell (MF/ST), which Pim certainly favours, as one of the players said in a Post-Match interview, it means Pim is not required to use as many subs or what have you, if, like we saw against Denmark last night, a Culina can just switch to RB/RW who was subbed off for a Valeri or Jedinak. It can enable some tactical flexibility aswell.

Edited by GloryPerth: 2/6/2010 04:02:00 PM

Damn it Pim. was looking forward to it.

I think he is going to cut Cahill ;) or my other guess is Garcia

Pim gave Garcia big wraps in the interview.

My guess it'll be;

Galekovic
Oar
Holland
Lowry
Jedinak

After last night, Valeri is a safer bet than Grella. We're going to need a CM after Grella is suspended.

lol tbh We may even see Valeri or even Jedinak take Grella's place, come atleast one of those Group fixtures, BUT, these are only lead up fixtures and as we saw with Moore, Grella and I'll throw in Bresc, may perform a fair bit better against the USA, when they've had some more match time under their belt and have also gotten used to the local conditions a bit more.

BTW Bresc was pretty ordinary last night, but I'm sure he will improve with more match time, though tbh, his spot in the line up has hardly been secure for the past year now, he's more a bench option these days.

Announcement is now going to be at 7.30pm - Awaiting a reason for the mysterious delay...

Pim's busy playing out different formations on FM. Seeing which one works best.

Harry to be cut....

Probably be someone like Milligan up there aswell. Don't need him as well as Beauchamp, Moore, Neill, Williams who can play CB

He just fucking won the World Cup......












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Cahill for sure.

Build suspense? Or it might've been a "hard" decision?

Hopefully Holman did his ACL falling out the bus on the trip back to the base.

I'm pretty sure the squad itself is in to FIFA already. The deadline passed already right?

As I understand some articles I've already read this is strictly a media embargo. Those that need to know (FIFA, the players, not us apparently) already know within the deadline. Tonight's announcement is basically to let the public know.

you obviously didn't waTch last nights game

Yeah. I did. He wasn't completely useless. Wow. We should start him against Germany. He still had his typical run around do nothing get passed around defensive duties, and his typical touch of a rapist traps.

For fuck's sake... why the lengthy delay?

They did say 7:30 pm didn't they?

Harry won't be ruled out.. IMO one of Vidosic, Jedinak or Garcia. Out of those three there is only one I'd be angry if he did miss and that is Vidosic.

Garcia should be cut. He didn't impress last night.

is it going to be streamed anywhere? I'd like to watch it first hand!

its 7:37?????? I have it on 513 and they are crapping on about Crab-arm???

What is the point of delaying the announcement if they arent even going to televise it??????

The delay suggests it may be a very big name...they may be giving someone till the last possible minute...

So is it being televised...i'm on fox sports news at the moment but there just going over regular news

folks got the telly so I cant see it

Thanks to Pim's hatred of the a-leauge we knew Eugene wouldnt get a shot - not partically impressed as when federici was given a half of football he let in the softest of goals but thats the way the cookie crumbles. Unless its a big name I dont really care this time around TBH

just want 14 June to hurry up and get here!

Edited by UnitedGal: 2/6/2010 08:00:40 PM

Holland, Oar, Williams, Galekovic and Lowry miss out. Williams misses out due to injury

fox sports news 8:00 will be announced

According to various sources on twitter (lol) the squad has been finalised: Holland Oar Galekovic Lowry and Williams miss out

thats it just been announced on fox sports news

nooooooooo...just as I feared...williams out through injury....he is gonna farken hate strachan after playing him injured even once boro couldn't make the playoffs.

How about you get your facts right before going off on a rant. Galekovic was always listed as a reserve just in case in any of the three keepers ahead of him got injured before the world cup. As for Federici, it was hardly the softest goal.

If Williams wasn't cut for any reason, other than that injury he has had all year, I will be filthy.

Richard Garcia ahead of Rhys Williams? Surely this is Pims' idea of a joke?

Williams is injured :roll:

if williams is in a state to play, then he should have been picked. if hes so badly injured that he cant run then i can understand.

i dont know why people are going on about eugene. When pim chose the 31 he said the eugene was only in case one of the others got injured and no other reason.

Make that two, the boy has bags of quality and a big future with the Roo's. I will be pissed if he has been dropped for anything other than injury.

i wonder why the announcement took so long

must have taken so long so they could give his injury as long as possible to heal...only thing I can think of given that he wasn't given any game time despite easily being good enough....I am filthy at strachan....we've lost a good young player who also offers versatility....

He handed the team sheet in this morning thou.

I can't imagine that there'd be any other reason behind it. I have no idea why Garcia is in the squad at all, he doesn't bring anything to the team.

shame for williams. of course he is injured, it was common knowledge he was injured when playing for middlesbrough and he hasnt featured in the last 2 friendlies.

Explains why culina has been playing on right wing in the last 2 friendlies. He is cover for wilkshire/emerton.

Devastated.

Oh well, he has plenty of time to play in a world cup. We have plenty of strength in defence without him though so we'll be alright.

If Kennedy is injured in the first game, we'll have no strikers, only midfielders. LOL. Pim being Pim he'll probably throw Chippers up forward and play Carney. Might work.Can anyone see Ruka getting game time, given he hasnt really been seen?
If it becomes clear Harry can't play, (but I really hope he can) who will be on the left? Oar would have been a handy sub as young as he is.

Good luck to them one and all. (Even Holman, Grella and Moore)

Chippers has been playing up front (rather successfully) for Basel lately.

Shame on Gordon Strachan , let him look Rhys Williams in the eyes and explain why his mismanagment of the kid resulted in him missing out on a World Cup. To the 23 who have made it ...
Do yourselves and Australia Proud.

You can both sleep easy now, look:

Australia blame Middlesbrough after Rhys Williams cut from squad

guardian.co.uk,
Wednesday 2 June 2010 13.09 BST

The Australia coach, Pim Verbeek, has publicly named his 23-man final squad for the World Cup. The announcement comes a day after the Fifa deadline, but Fifa has confirmed that the squad was submitted before the midnight time limit – despite not being publicly announced – and plans to take no action against Australia.

Verbeek, who delayed making the list public while he spoke to the players who didn't make the cut, used the announcement to attack Middlesbrough for their handling of the young defender Rhys Williams, who missed out through injury.

Williams was one of five players left out – the others being Shane Lowry, Tommy Oar, James Holland and goalkeeper Eugene Galekovic. Verkeek said 21-year-old Williams would have been in his final 23 but for a long-running pelvic injury which, he claimed, had gone untreated at Middlesbrough.

"He trained without confidence: he could never train fully, he's not free to play and his recovery is not quick enough to make it," Verbeek said.

"Gordon Strachan let him play for weeks with an injury. He let him play with an injection every game. If you do that with a 20-year-old player you take a risk.

"I'm 100 per cent sure if they had given him the normal treatment for a player, he should be in the World Cup."

Williams, clearly upset, told the media he was "heartbroken but proud to have made the 27."

"I have been struggling for a long time, but the coaching staff gave me every possible chance to be fit. It obviously just wasn't meant to be. I'm looking forward to working out a plan with the physios and looking to the future."

Australia's World Cup squad
Goalkeepers: Mark Schwarzer (Fulham), Adam Federici (Reading), Brad Jones (Middlesbrough).

Defenders: Lucas Neill (Galatasaray), Craig Moore (unattached), Scott Chipperfield (Basel), David Carney (Twente Enschede), Luke Wilkshire (Dynamo Moscow), Mark Milligan (JEF United), Michael Beauchamp (Al-Jazira).

Midfielders: Tim Cahill (Everton), Mark Bresciano (Palermo) Vince Grella (Blackburn Rovers), Brett Emerton (Blackburn Rovers), Jason Culina (Gold Coast), Harry Kewell (Galatasaray), Brett Holman (AZ Alkmaar), Carl Valeri (Sassuolo), Mile Jedinak (Antalyaspor), Richard Garcia (Hull City), Dario Vidosic (Nuremberg).

Forwards: Josh Kennedy (Nagoya), Nikita Rukavytsya (Twente Enschede).



Edited by diego's son: 3/6/2010 01:00:25 AM

Well surprise, surprise !

Cannot believe Verbeek even included Rhys in the squad in the first place. Rhys knew it, Verbeek knew it and we all knew that he was carrying a serious injury for weeks prior to the squad selection, yet Verbeek includes him hoping that he might come good. Does he not listen to his medical staff, who I would have thought told him that he has little chance of getting right for the wc.

Verbeek has really screwed this up and the best he can do is blame Gordon Strachan for his treatment of Rhys, which by the way, Rhys no doubt agreed to.

I just feel sorry for the likes of Carle, McDonald etc. etc. who have sufferred as a result of this dumb decision.