WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
The Swiss Super League. The perfect example: ''Stadiums should be built to hold the average attendance with the option of expanding''***(All figures rounded)(Numbers are from last season)(Stadiums were bulit at differnt time therfore the cost changes due to the currency at the time)*** FC BaselSt. Jakob-Park Average crowd 29,000 Highest crowd 38,500 Stadium capacity 38,500 Can be expanded to 45,000 Cost: About 220 million AUD Neuchatel XamaxStade de la Maladière Average crowd 5,000 Highest crowd 12,000 Stadium capacity 12,000 Can be expanded to 18,000 Cost: About $200 million AUD FC LuzernSwissporarena Average crowd 8,000 Highest crowd 9,000 Stadium capacity 17,000 Can be expanded to 20,000 Cost: Estimated 200 million AUD BSC Young Boys BernStade de Suisse, Wankdorf Average crowd 21,000 Highest crowd 31,000 Stadium Capacity 32,000 Can be expanded to 45,000 Cost: About 350 million AUD FC ThunArena Thun Average crowd 5,000 Highest crowd 9,500 Stadium capacity 10,000 Can be expanded to 13,500 Cost: Estimated 100 million AUD FC St. GallenAFG Arena Average crowd 13,000 Highest crowd 19,500 Stadium capacity 19,500~20,000 Can be expanded to 27,000 Cost: About 340 million AUD  This is just a few of almost all stadiums in Switzerland with expandable capacities. What do you think? Edited by nhub24: 11/7/2011 05:18:06 PM
|
|
|
|
HeyItsRobbie
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.5K,
Visits: 0
|
i approve....
|
|
|
FB
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 47,
Visits: 0
|
I think you're living in fantasy land.
Edited by FB: 11/7/2011 05:02:46 PM
|
|
|
Timmo
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.4K,
Visits: 0
|
Like it and you can also used MLS as an example HOWEVER there is such a thing called money and this just wouldn't happen overnight.
We pretty much have the stadiums in place except probably the main issues are
Brisbane and Sydney playing in under half-full capacity during the regular season
gold Coast united which is an entirely different problem altogether and I don't see anyone needed to build a 3rd stadium on the Gold coast.
|
|
|
Heart_Fan10
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.7K,
Visits: 0
|
we've already taken a step in the right direction with aami park which has a capacity of 30,050 and can be expanded
|
|
|
WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
FB wrote:I think you're living in fantasy land.
Edited by FB: 11/7/2011 05:02:46 PM I'm not saying it will happen, it's just an idea. Money and other factors are the issues.
|
|
|
MaxiiGCU
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.2K,
Visits: 0
|
The FC Thun stadium would be perfect for us.
Edited by MaxiiGCU: 11/7/2011 05:07:41 PM
|
|
|
FB
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 47,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote:FB wrote:I think you're living in fantasy land. I'm not saying it will happen, it's just an idea. Money and other factors are the issues. ie. it's a fantasy.
|
|
|
WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
MaxiiGCU wrote:The FC Thun stadium would be perfect for us.
Edited by MaxiiGCU: 11/7/2011 05:07:41 PM It would make a good atmosphere, being close to other fans ;)
|
|
|
RedshirtWilly
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.4K,
Visits: 0
|
Heart_Fan10 wrote:we've already taken a step in the right direction with aami park which has a capacity of 30,050 and can be expanded wasn't there a statement that came out saying the builders had fracked up and it couldn't be expanded?
|
|
|
paulbagzFC
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 44K,
Visits: 0
|
MaxiiGCU wrote:The FC Thun stadium would be perfect for us.
Edited by MaxiiGCU: 11/7/2011 05:07:41 PM And it is. Now if only Clive would dig into his pockets and just build you one! -PB
|
|
|
Rico[exclamation mark]
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 749,
Visits: 0
|
RedshirtWilly wrote:Heart_Fan10 wrote:we've already taken a step in the right direction with aami park which has a capacity of 30,050 and can be expanded wasn't there a statement that came out saying the builders had fracked up and it couldn't be expanded? Because of the roof, yes.
|
|
|
kapow!
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote:The Swiss Super League. The perfect example:
''Stadiums should be built to hold the average attendance with the option of expanding'' i'm not sure where you got this from but most stadiums are not built this way at all.
|
|
|
The Doctor
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 10K,
Visits: 0
|
going to Mars would be cool to, doesn't mean its practical
|
|
|
redsfan
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.4K,
Visits: 0
|
bit of a lol at the estimated costs attached to the pics, way under reality. GCU stadiums is fine the way/size it is, it's the club thats the problem.
But for fantasy purposes, AFG stadium is about the ideal stadium for pretty much all the clubs in the league.
|
|
|
kapow!
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote: The perfect example: Cost: About $200 million AUD Cost: Estimated 200 million AUD Cost: About 350 million AUD Cost: Estimated 100 million AUD Cost: About 340 million AUD
What do you think?
I think cost is a big problem.:)
|
|
|
Heart_Fan10
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.7K,
Visits: 0
|
Roadie wrote:RedshirtWilly wrote:Heart_Fan10 wrote:we've already taken a step in the right direction with aami park which has a capacity of 30,050 and can be expanded wasn't there a statement that came out saying the builders had fracked up and it couldn't be expanded? Because of the roof, yes. that's ashame still a great stadium, melbourne derby atmosphere was amazing
|
|
|
WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
kapow! wrote:nhub24 wrote: The perfect example: Cost: About $200 million AUD Cost: Estimated 200 million AUD Cost: About 350 million AUD Cost: Estimated 100 million AUD Cost: About 340 million AUD
What do you think?
I think cost is a big problem.:) Were not Zimbabwe, we do have some money ;) That's the issue though.
|
|
|
Heineken
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 49K,
Visits: 0
|
I agree, it'd be fantastic to have boutique stadiums, but because of money and football not being #1 in this country, It's not going to happen. If football was #1 in this country, I have no doubt we'd have multi millionaires throwin millions of dollars at the game for stadiums. Every time I go past Harold Park Trots in Glebe on the bus or in the car I have fantasies that I am a multi-millionaire and is going to build Sydney FC the sexiest, boutique, 20-25,000 seat stadium that will be our fortress. Unfortunatly they're knocking it down and building high-rise apartments.
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

|
|
|
kapow!
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote:kapow! wrote:nhub24 wrote: The perfect example: Cost: About $200 million AUD Cost: Estimated 200 million AUD Cost: About 350 million AUD Cost: Estimated 100 million AUD Cost: About 340 million AUD
What do you think?
I think cost is a big problem.:) Were not Zimbabwe, we do have some money ;) That's the issue though. haha not sure we have a spare billion lying around. :)
|
|
|
WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
Heineken wrote:I agree, it'd be fantastic to have boutique stadiums, but because of money and football not being #1 in this country, It's not going to happen. If football was #1 in this country, I have no doubt we'd have multi millionaires throwin millions of dollars at the game for stadiums.
Every time I go past Harold Park Trots in Glebe on the bus or in the car I have fantasies that I am a multi-millionaire and is going to build Sydney FC the sexiest, boutique, 20-25,000 seat stadium that will be our fortress. Unfortunatly they're knocking it down and building high-rise apartments. +1
|
|
|
bluebird
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 10K,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote:''Stadiums should be built to hold the average attendance with the option of expanding'' Unless every game is a sell out or gets the exact same crowd the average attendance will always be lower than the highest attendance. If you built a stadium to accommodate your average attendance then your average attendance will be lower because the higher games that produced that average would be impossible. You would end up with a shrinking stadium.
|
|
|
Benchwarmer
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.7K,
Visits: 0
|
Our stadiums aren't that bad. The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. I think better investment would be in training venues ie. What CCM are doing.
|
|
|
notorganic
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 21K,
Visits: 0
|
Benchwarmer wrote:The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. Actually, Heart need a significantly smaller stadium to play in. They might fill Casey Fields for non-derby games.
|
|
|
Joffa
|
|
Group: Moderators
Posts: 66K,
Visits: 0
|
I think the biggest issue in regards to stadiums is the lack of ownership,or at the very least the stadium deals, as opposed to the size of the stadiums.
|
|
|
Heart_Fan10
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.7K,
Visits: 0
|
notorganic wrote:Benchwarmer wrote:The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. Actually, Heart need a significantly smaller stadium to play in. They might fill Casey Fields for non-derby games. funny how we were only under 1000 people on average from having the 3rd highest crowd averages in the league behind adelaide and victory Edited by heart_fan10: 11/7/2011 05:52:45 PM
|
|
|
Misc
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.1K,
Visits: 0
|
Joffa wrote:I think the biggest issue in regards to stadiums is the lack of ownership,or at the very least the stadium deals, as opposed to the size of the stadiums. This is exactly right. People keep mentioning stadiums, but we are at a point where MVFC, MH, AU, NJ, CCM, PG, GCU all play in smaller sized stadiums. Gold coast have the issue with the location and parking etc, but realistically, the main benefit of building our own stadiums would be ownership. The main person who could help this issue is one Lowy. I dont expect him to or say he should. Peoples money is their own business. But owning a few stadiums would be one of the bigger gifts that could be given to the A-league.
|
|
|
WastedYouth
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.3K,
Visits: 0
|
Benchwarmer wrote:Our stadiums aren't that bad. The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. I think better investment would be in training venues ie. What CCM are doing. Wellington, Heart, Newcastle and Perth, Adelaide need a more modenized stadium.
|
|
|
notorganic
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 21K,
Visits: 0
|
Heart_Fan10 wrote:notorganic wrote:Benchwarmer wrote:The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. Actually, Heart need a significantly smaller stadium to play in. They might fill Casey Fields for non-derby games. funny how we were only under 1000 people on average from having the 3rd highest crowd averages in the league behind adelaide and victory Please don't take this as a personal attack, but you're too stupid to weigh into this discussion.
|
|
|
kapow!
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
nhub24 wrote:Benchwarmer wrote:Our stadiums aren't that bad. The only teams with stadia considerably larger than attendance is Sydney and Brisbane. I think better investment would be in training venues ie. What CCM are doing. Wellington, Heart, Newcastle and Perth, Adelaide need a more modenized stadium. That point actually has some legs i remember a story a while back that Adelaide United is building or is planing to build more corporate facilities to cash in on that end of the market. It’s probably an area that has not been well catered for by a-league clubs with the exception of MV.
|
|
|