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+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
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+xBack from the game - got there late and missed the first goal so don't know much about that yet. We did not huff and puff so much tonight. We got down the wings and through the middle regularly, but we struggled to create real pressure or panic in the defence once we got there. We can find a way through a contested middle when we try, but we don't try enough - looking sideways a bit too often and not seeming to see an open player as often as not. Ingham has the most hideous touch of any of our players based on his performance when he came on. Most of his passes were behind their target or not hard enough to make the distance. He is not any sort of impact player - I would rather we start with him than bring him on when we need to up the ante (if we have him on at all). Neville is a player I have time for. His workrate is huge both forwards and defensively and while his final passes are often aimless he has got an eye for other players and opportunities, good ball control and body strength. I would rather have him in my side than not. One thing I cannot stand is a ref who gives a yellow card to a Roar player for a professional foul but fails to give one to an opposition player who commits a professional foul, then after the whistle kicks the ball away hard and right into a Roar players face. FFS - in another incident where a Roar player was fouled blatantly and professionally he only gave a yellow when the offender then forced him to by running back through after the free kick was awarded and knocking the ball away. Far too often he has managed players rather than play in games I have watched and he is probably my least liked ref these days. It is a broken record - but professional fouls (by any player) should get a frigging yellow card from the first time. Too much faking injury as the game wore on. A few calls went the wrong way or should not have been called at all. Funny when Rudan was telling Kurto to take the ball to the other side of the goal - and he did and finally got a card for time wasting. Not an uplifting, heart racing game - but not an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations we put together from time to time with 6-8 passes getting through traffic. On a better day we would be getting through with 3-4 passes but getting through all the same. Yes, a long way from 90 minutes of sustained pressure, but with my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week. If only we could get a good cross in to a moving player or use the skills we have to get inside the box rather than skirting round it. We can agree on thing, Chris Beath shouldn't be on the A-league panel. The FFA can use the money from Babbel's fine to pay the air fare of good Japanese referee or two
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+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking.
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But we had more shots than they did But we had more of the possession But ROD is just out of form
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Reality check. Roar ,from having the best defence after three rounds ,now have the worst defence of any team after 9 rounds.....With two away games next.......And we bagged JA.... Only CCM and NJ have scored less goals.Yet they both have two games in hand. We have the best possession statistics.....So did a certain Okon at CCM years ago and how did CCM go?
Does anyone seriously think RF can turn this around?......
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+x+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. I didn’t think Roar looked remotely like scoring at any stage. They could have played till midnight and I don’t think they would have scored.
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+xReality check. Roar ,from having the best defence after three rounds ,now have the worst defence of any team after 9 rounds.....With two away games next.......And we bagged JA.... Only CCM and NJ have scored less goals.Yet they both have two games in hand. We have the best possession statistics.....So did a certain Okon at CCM years ago and how did CCM go? Does anyone seriously think RF can turn this around?...... Point is - I don't know - but I am still willing and waiting to see how things go. We stay the same - we suck. We continue to improve - good. We get our teamwork right - good. This may be the first time in forever that I cannot say there is a particular player that I really like in the Roar squad. We just don't have that sort of squad. But if they can get it together maybe someone will emerge. I have to say that Longbottom is the standout feature for me at the moment and I know there will be some saying 'says a lot about the Roar then' - but I backed Dimi when he got pasted too so I'm OK with that.
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+x+x+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. I didn’t think Roar looked remotely like scoring at any stage. They could have played till midnight and I don’t think they would have scored. You are taking into account the desperate saves by defenders and the keeper as not looking like remotely scoring? I can agree that our build up rarely looked like unlocking their defence - but not that I did not think 'Yes!...oh crap' more than once.
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+x+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times?Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead.The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. For all of the passing, for all of the possession, for all of the territorial dominance, for all of the balls whipped into the box and shots outside the area, Kurto still was still barely challenged. WU created the better chances from the few meaningful attacks they mounted, but more importantly, they had the quality to finish those chances off! At least WU showed some desperation and some actual desire to win. And there is absolutely nothing with playing like that away from home to get the 3 points. I'd much rather come away with the chocolates winning 2-0 with a defensive performance away from home than lose 2-0 at home knowing that for all their possession in the final third, the other team still had the better chances. And WU's 'recognized quality' won them the game, as Diamanti was clearly a class above once again. Skotadis and Berisha played pretty well too (should've had a pen). Even defensively, they had the quality and determination to throw themselves at everything.
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+x+x+x[quote]Not an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. If by chances you mean the countless no look, aimless crosses into the box?, then I guess so...... How hard is it to lift your head up, see where players are and then cross it in? As for combinations, roar had a good pre-season, 9 games in and we are still stuck with glimpses and flashes, wishes and hopes of a standard that will likely never come to fruition. Possession stats don't mean anything as usual, all the games have been the same, pointless passes backwards and sideways, slow movement and transistion that amounts to nothing while never really looking threatening going forward. All any team has to do now is get an early lead which isn't hard anyway since roar can't even score a single goal in the first half and then park the bus. No one cares that roar has possession because they can't do anything with it. Fowler can moan all day about those sort of tactics but its up to Roar to break the defence which its obvious they players they currently have don't have the skill to do so. Roar had the best defence before - now they have the worst. Roar at least won games at home this season, now that is gone. Roar still hasn't scored a goal in the first half, can't see that changing unless its a pen.
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+x+x+x+x[quote]Not an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. If by chances you mean the countless no look, aimless crosses into the box?, then I guess so...... How hard is it to lift your head up, see where players are and then cross it in? Specifically, I mean the full stretch save diving to his right that may or may not have been going in, the shot that was blocked by a defender with Kurto out of frame and the shot that went a bit wide to the right and also had Kurto diving full stretch. I know there were other promising moments but those three are enough to say we created some chances that could have gone in. I agree with just about everything else you said - except that I do see us scoring in the first half - as much as I see us scoring anytime in a game. I am not saying we are playing well - we aren't - but I still watch and expect that at some point the good things that players are doing deliberately once or twice in a game will become the norm and not just moments. I do think Robbie is right to bemoan the gamesmanship and professional fouls that stop us attacking. We are not particularly creative in games, and slow to build - but the times when we might look to go fast we are consistently fouled early then have much smaller chance of breaking down a set defence.
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Bland football doesn’t give you great results often, no creativity nor the quality needed at all in creating chances.
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+x+x+x+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. I didn’t think Roar looked remotely like scoring at any stage. They could have played till midnight and I don’t think they would have scored. You are taking into account the desperate saves by defenders and the keeper as not looking like remotely scoring? I can agree that our build up rarely looked like unlocking their defence - but not that I did not think 'Yes!...oh crap' more than once. I don’t recall anything that I would call desperate saves by defenders and the keeper. Kurto had a couple shots he dived at that were going wide, pushed one slow tame header over the bar, blocked one that was straight at him that had rebounded off ROD, and the defenders blocked a couple of other shots (just normal blocks, not last man blocks with the keeper beaten). I guess you can say that looked remotely like scoring, but VERY remote. I like that you are passionate about Roar, and I too sincerely hope every game that the it will mark the turning point in the season, but unfortunately I’ve seen a continuing decrease in performance level over the season so far.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xNot an embarrassing performance. Really happy with the combinations With my orange glasses on I will say another competitive game and several steps up from last week.
 :) Will you not concede that we were a chance at scoring one or two throughout the game? At the game (if you went) did you not think a goal was in the air a few times? Rudan may say they were smoking cigars but that is as much gamesmanship as his team employed in the second half - desperately stopping our attacks by professional fouls and throwing their bodies into defence. For a side with such recognised quality they did everything they could to hang in the game after they got ahead. The combinations were missing from most of the game - but there were several times when they got it together. Those are the bits that I see and like and as I said above I hope they can produce a lot more of them for that to become our standard. As an aside, when we had maybe O'Neil (?) wide on the right in the first half (far side from me at the time so I can't be sure) he made every effort to turn and face the goal/defender in the final third rather than just playing the ball back up the line with his back to everything. Most times he was successful and just that was a step up from purely defensive attacking. I didn’t think Roar looked remotely like scoring at any stage. They could have played till midnight and I don’t think they would have scored. You are taking into account the desperate saves by defenders and the keeper as not looking like remotely scoring? I can agree that our build up rarely looked like unlocking their defence - but not that I did not think 'Yes!...oh crap' more than once. I don’t recall anything that I would call desperate saves by defenders and the keeper. Kurto had a couple shots he dived at that were going wide, pushed one slow tame header over the bar, blocked one that was straight at him that had rebounded off ROD, and the defenders blocked a couple of other shots (just normal blocks, not last man blocks with the keeper beaten). I guess you can say that looked remotely like scoring, but VERY remote. I like that you are passionate about Roar, and I too sincerely hope every game that the it will mark the turning point in the season, but unfortunately I’ve seen a continuing decrease in performance level over the season so far. Snore in the blood has Stockholm Syndrome.
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Is waz still in the foetal position?
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+x+xThat was, without doubt, some of the most pathetic football I have ever watched. 1st goal was Young's fault, 2nd goal was just typical of the Roar's season so far. O'Donovan, O'Neill, Aldred, Gillesphey and Inman have looked like crap so far, and I'd probably throw Neville in there too. For all the passes they complete, which offer nothing whatsoever apart from a meaningless statistic, they just really don't offer anything in the attacking-third. GK - Freke RWB - Hingert? CB - ? CB - Aldred CB - Courtney-Perkins LWB - Powell CM - Mauk CM - Pepper? AM - O'Shea ST - ? ST - Amadi-Holloway ^ that's how I'd probably start next week: there's really nothing left to lose. Mells , O’Toole and Hingeart will be playing NYL again this week coach got no idea Mells Scored again now 10 goals , 8 assists.
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I haven’t read back through all the comments so apologies if I’m repeating stuff that’s already been said.
That was pretty dire stuff. Listening to Fowler and watching what went on there’s clearly a disconnect - Roar just wouldn’t move the ball forwards even when that was the easier pass.
At the back, Young was criminally negligent for that first goal. What the f’ck was he thinking? So he can be dropped.
Mauk also had another poor game. He just looks like a friend of Aloisi and doesn’t want to be here any more.
Looking at ROD, he was about 50/50 on making the right runs last night. Not sure whether that’s him second guessing his slow midfield or not ...?
The Courier Mail is reporting Roar will try and sign “a playmaker” in the January window - not sure what quality is going to be available though.
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For possession statistics they should subtract back passes from forward passes to give a more meaningful idea of what is going on.
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+xFor possession statistics they should subtract back passes from forward passes to give a more meaningful idea of what is going on. xG, xGA and xGD do that.
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+xThe Courier Mail is reporting Roar will try and sign “a playmaker” in the January window - not sure what quality is going to be available though. Aiden McGeady has become available in the last couple of days. He is someone who would fit the bill and would be someone Fowler would know about. Attitude, wages and recent form would be drawbacks though. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7787593/Aiden-McGeady-banished-Sunderland-training-ground-Phil-Parkinson.html
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+xI haven’t read back through all the comments so apologies if I’m repeating stuff that’s already been said. That was pretty dire stuff. Listening to Fowler and watching what went on there’s clearly a disconnect - Roar just wouldn’t move the ball forwards even when that was the easier pass. At the back, Young was criminally negligent for that first goal. What the f’ck was he thinking? So he can be dropped. Mauk also had another poor game. He just looks like a friend of Aloisi and doesn’t want to be here any more. Looking at ROD, he was about 50/50 on making the right runs last night. Not sure whether that’s him second guessing his slow midfield or not ...? The Courier Mail is reporting Roar will try and sign “a playmaker” in the January window - not sure what quality is going to be available though. Remember early in the year when DDS was out at Logan for the grand tour.............
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I’d take “attitude” to be honest ...
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McGeady is a winger not a playmaker and has a terrible attitude.
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+xMcGeady is a winger not a playmaker and has a terrible attitude. He plays out wide but he's still a creative player and a very good dribbler. I did mention his attitude as well. I'm not saying Roar should or shouldn't sign him but he is an option.
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+x+xMcGeady is a winger not a playmaker and has a terrible attitude. He plays out wide but he's still a creative player and a very good dribbler. I did mention his attitude as well. I'm not saying Roar should or shouldn't sign him but he is an option. Well they won’t be signing him , probably can’t afford him anyway and he would also be a foreign player but we don’t have any spots left. End of section, DDS more of a chance but not sure if we could afford his $500k PA pay cheque.
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+x+xI think blaming the Brit recruits for the problems at O'Roar is a bit of a copout. I mean Fowler is the one who came out said the cap was a nightmare, that sounds like a cop out to me. The blame has to go somewhere, which is it? The coach or the players, either way it doesn't look good. Don't write Melbourne City and Adelaide off. I think it's going to be a 3 horse race in the end.
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So Roar are going to sign another Brit cum Jan transfer window? They need a Spaniard or something.
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+xFor possession statistics they should subtract back passes from forward passes to give a more meaningful idea of what is going on. I was wondering if anyone ever bothered to add up a team's forward metres and subtract their backwards passing metres what sort of figures we would be looking at. It would not be meaningful on its own because hoofball would generate a huge forward distance as they booted it upfield and the opposition brought it back. For a heavy possession game it would be quite neutral as they would be subtracting their back passes from their forward distance. I just think it would be an interesting stat to compare across teams and games purely for the sake of a different perspective.
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+xGeria has been quite good when Franjic has been injured, but with Hingert's arrival I think Geria might have to be content with a youth contract (if he's eligable, not sure though) or as a squaddie. Hingert and Jurman were fantastic against the Ipswich XI but it was an invitational side so I think they'd have been easier to break down given they'd have had much less time to gel as a unit. The Rochedale game will be a much sterner test of how well they are going. Looking forward to tomorrow nights game, especially to see the Bahrani trialist. If he performs I've got no doubt Ange will snap him up with the Asian player requirement covered for the ACL as a bonus. Just waiting on the arrival of a striker and we'll be all set to go back-to-back \:d/ https://www.a-league.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-v-western-united-fc-match-preview
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+x+xGeria has been quite good when Franjic has been injured, but with Hingert's arrival I think Geria might have to be content with a youth contract (if he's eligable, not sure though) or as a squaddie. Hingert and Jurman were fantastic against the Ipswich XI but it was an invitational side so I think they'd have been easier to break down given they'd have had much less time to gel as a unit. The Rochedale game will be a much sterner test of how well they are going. Looking forward to tomorrow nights game, especially to see the Bahrani trialist. If he performs I've got no doubt Ange will snap him up with the Asian player requirement covered for the ACL as a bonus. Just waiting on the arrival of a striker and we'll be all set to go back-to-back \:d/ https://www.a-league.com.au/news/brisbane-roar-v-western-united-fc-match-preview Funny when reading that report I remembered how Jurman was hounded out of the club by some “passionate “ fans.
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