The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)

Author
Message
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
Petrat has improved a lot.He actually sprints now which is a bonus.
His big problem is workrate and defence,which has been problematic for a midfield not strong on defence.
Who knows,this year he may improve further.But the latter half of last year exposed our defensive weaknesses and as sides continue to work them over ,players that don't step up will be on the bench.
It can't be a surprise that the two senior players Aloisi has brought in so far are defensive midfielders.

I can't see how you're evaluating Petratos on defence as he's not tasked with doing that in Aloisi's set up, rather like saying Jamie Young doesn't shoot enough?
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
lolitsbigmic
lolitsbigmic
World Class
World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.5K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
Petrat has improved a lot.He actually sprints now which is a bonus.
His big problem is workrate and defence,which has been problematic for a midfield not strong on defence.
Who knows,this year he may improve further.But the latter half of last year exposed our defensive weaknesses and as sides continue to work them over ,players that don't step up will be on the bench.
It can't be a surprise that the two senior players Aloisi has brought in so far are defensive midfielders.

I can't see how you're evaluating Petratos on defence as he's not tasked with doing that in Aloisi's set up, rather like saying Jamie Young doesn't shoot enough?


but it is a bit counter to what aloisi wanted when he dumped clut because he didnt defend enough. problem with petrat his skills dont fit a standard winger or attacking mid. if he could cross the ball and faster he would be our first choice right wing.
Edited
9 Years Ago by lolitsbigmic
crimsoncrusoe
crimsoncrusoe
World Class
World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.9K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
Petrat has improved a lot.He actually sprints now which is a bonus.
His big problem is workrate and defence,which has been problematic for a midfield not strong on defence.
Who knows,this year he may improve further.But the latter half of last year exposed our defensive weaknesses and as sides continue to work them over ,players that don't step up will be on the bench.
It can't be a surprise that the two senior players Aloisi has brought in so far are defensive midfielders.

I can't see how you're evaluating Petratos on defence as he's not tasked with doing that in Aloisi's set up, rather like saying Jamie Young doesn't shoot enough?


Is that true?
It raises a number of questions.
Why was that his role considering his midfield cohorts.
When Roar was under the pump ,what was his role?
He got hooked a few times for going Mia.
He is not a playmaker.I would call him a work in progress.
But the bottom line is all players have to defend these days.Unless you have particularly strong defensive players to cover.
One glaring problem for defence last year was the poor pressing.Coordination of the press was poor with teams waltzing through midfield too easily.

Edited
9 Years Ago by crimsoncrusoe
Jonsnow
Jonsnow
Rising Star
Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 783, Visits: 0
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
Waz wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
I wonder if Roar will play a 4123 this year .Ideally we need another midfielder with good defensive abilities in midfield to allow for a 4213.A lot may depend on whether Pepper can step up.He is more mobile and energetic than Petrat.
Petrat and McKay are not good defenders.Maybe Petrat and Borello can go back to battling for the right forward position.
McKay,Oar and Broich somehow will need to fit into two spots on the left.
We still need back up for McClaren and the backs.
Looking at the squad so far,Aloisi is going to have to try some different formations like 442.

Aloisi expressed a strong desire to play different formations and even said Roar would change formations during games including 4-3-3 as standard and 4-2-3-1 with Maclaren playing lone striker. A formation with two holding midfielders would suit Roar with the ney guy plus either McKay or Pepper in the second position


I think 4-2-3-1 would allow us to get more out of an ageing Broich by moving him into a number 10 position. He usually drifts into that area anyway, and if we play Oar on the left and Borrello on the right, it will stretch the opposition and leave Broich with the space to operate in the middle. We can play the new guy next to Mckay with Mckay acting as the link to move the ball quickly between defence and attack like what he did for the national team.

Have we signed a new LB?

No new LB. Aloisi says he's going with Brown backed by O'Toole.

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol


Brown has the look of a winger who was converted to LB late in his development. He really isn't a good defender, but looks quite good when given the opportunity to go forward. The problem is Broich is ageing and can't track back, so Brown won't be able to make as many runs forward without leaving us exposed at the back. I honestly think Brown should be a back up LW and we should sign another LB.


Read an article somewhere about OToole , was voted most dominant left back in T 1 high school football in Japan , was also back up to Gersbach in recent Aus u20s games .
Still only 19 but if yer good enough , you should get a chance.
Also regarding a striker , Dagastino has been banging them in for NPL side , would like to see him get a run this year.


Edited
9 Years Ago by Jonsnow
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
Jonsnow wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
Waz wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
I wonder if Roar will play a 4123 this year .Ideally we need another midfielder with good defensive abilities in midfield to allow for a 4213.A lot may depend on whether Pepper can step up.He is more mobile and energetic than Petrat.
Petrat and McKay are not good defenders.Maybe Petrat and Borello can go back to battling for the right forward position.
McKay,Oar and Broich somehow will need to fit into two spots on the left.
We still need back up for McClaren and the backs.
Looking at the squad so far,Aloisi is going to have to try some different formations like 442.

Aloisi expressed a strong desire to play different formations and even said Roar would change formations during games including 4-3-3 as standard and 4-2-3-1 with Maclaren playing lone striker. A formation with two holding midfielders would suit Roar with the ney guy plus either McKay or Pepper in the second position


I think 4-2-3-1 would allow us to get more out of an ageing Broich by moving him into a number 10 position. He usually drifts into that area anyway, and if we play Oar on the left and Borrello on the right, it will stretch the opposition and leave Broich with the space to operate in the middle. We can play the new guy next to Mckay with Mckay acting as the link to move the ball quickly between defence and attack like what he did for the national team.

Have we signed a new LB?

No new LB. Aloisi says he's going with Brown backed by O'Toole.

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol


Brown has the look of a winger who was converted to LB late in his development. He really isn't a good defender, but looks quite good when given the opportunity to go forward. The problem is Broich is ageing and can't track back, so Brown won't be able to make as many runs forward without leaving us exposed at the back. I honestly think Brown should be a back up LW and we should sign another LB.


Read an article somewhere about OToole , was voted most dominant left back in T 1 high school football in Japan , was also back up to Gersbach in recent Aus u20s games .
Still only 19 but if yer good enough , you should get a chance.
Also regarding a striker , Dagastino has been banging them in for NPL side , would like to see him get a run this year.

I'm happy enough with a Brown/O'Toole LB combo, if it's a compromise then there's always one somewhere in a salary cap league.

I'd like to see some youth blooded as well, we missed that last year really although we still had some youth in the side all the same. So 2-3 more senior signings to give us options and depth and then some good young players being given a chance will suit me :)
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
Jonsnow
Jonsnow
Rising Star
Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 783, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
Jonsnow wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
Waz wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
I wonder if Roar will play a 4123 this year .Ideally we need another midfielder with good defensive abilities in midfield to allow for a 4213.A lot may depend on whether Pepper can step up.He is more mobile and energetic than Petrat.
Petrat and McKay are not good defenders.Maybe Petrat and Borello can go back to battling for the right forward position.
McKay,Oar and Broich somehow will need to fit into two spots on the left.
We still need back up for McClaren and the backs.
Looking at the squad so far,Aloisi is going to have to try some different formations like 442.

Aloisi expressed a strong desire to play different formations and even said Roar would change formations during games including 4-3-3 as standard and 4-2-3-1 with Maclaren playing lone striker. A formation with two holding midfielders would suit Roar with the ney guy plus either McKay or Pepper in the second position


I think 4-2-3-1 would allow us to get more out of an ageing Broich by moving him into a number 10 position. He usually drifts into that area anyway, and if we play Oar on the left and Borrello on the right, it will stretch the opposition and leave Broich with the space to operate in the middle. We can play the new guy next to Mckay with Mckay acting as the link to move the ball quickly between defence and attack like what he did for the national team.

Have we signed a new LB?

No new LB. Aloisi says he's going with Brown backed by O'Toole.

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol


Brown has the look of a winger who was converted to LB late in his development. He really isn't a good defender, but looks quite good when given the opportunity to go forward. The problem is Broich is ageing and can't track back, so Brown won't be able to make as many runs forward without leaving us exposed at the back. I honestly think Brown should be a back up LW and we should sign another LB.


Read an article somewhere about OToole , was voted most dominant left back in T 1 high school football in Japan , was also back up to Gersbach in recent Aus u20s games .
Still only 19 but if yer good enough , you should get a chance.
Also regarding a striker , Dagastino has been banging them in for NPL side , would like to see him get a run this year.

I'm happy enough with a Brown/O'Toole LB combo, if it's a compromise then there's always one somewhere in a salary cap league.

I'd like to see some youth blooded as well, we missed that last year really although we still had some youth in the side all the same. So 2-3 more senior signings to give us options and depth and then some good young players being given a chance will suit me :)


Agreed , another good thing there is no shortage of left footed players in this years squad , Brown , Broich , Oar ,McKay ,OToole , Rowles, good to have depth


Edited
9 Years Ago by Jonsnow
BRFC_92
BRFC_92
Pro
Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.4K, Visits: 0
Jonsnow wrote:
Waz wrote:
Jonsnow wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
Waz wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
I wonder if Roar will play a 4123 this year .Ideally we need another midfielder with good defensive abilities in midfield to allow for a 4213.A lot may depend on whether Pepper can step up.He is more mobile and energetic than Petrat.
Petrat and McKay are not good defenders.Maybe Petrat and Borello can go back to battling for the right forward position.
McKay,Oar and Broich somehow will need to fit into two spots on the left.
We still need back up for McClaren and the backs.
Looking at the squad so far,Aloisi is going to have to try some different formations like 442.

Aloisi expressed a strong desire to play different formations and even said Roar would change formations during games including 4-3-3 as standard and 4-2-3-1 with Maclaren playing lone striker. A formation with two holding midfielders would suit Roar with the ney guy plus either McKay or Pepper in the second position


I think 4-2-3-1 would allow us to get more out of an ageing Broich by moving him into a number 10 position. He usually drifts into that area anyway, and if we play Oar on the left and Borrello on the right, it will stretch the opposition and leave Broich with the space to operate in the middle. We can play the new guy next to Mckay with Mckay acting as the link to move the ball quickly between defence and attack like what he did for the national team.

Have we signed a new LB?

No new LB. Aloisi says he's going with Brown backed by O'Toole.

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol


Brown has the look of a winger who was converted to LB late in his development. He really isn't a good defender, but looks quite good when given the opportunity to go forward. The problem is Broich is ageing and can't track back, so Brown won't be able to make as many runs forward without leaving us exposed at the back. I honestly think Brown should be a back up LW and we should sign another LB.


Read an article somewhere about OToole , was voted most dominant left back in T 1 high school football in Japan , was also back up to Gersbach in recent Aus u20s games .
Still only 19 but if yer good enough , you should get a chance.
Also regarding a striker , Dagastino has been banging them in for NPL side , would like to see him get a run this year.

I'm happy enough with a Brown/O'Toole LB combo, if it's a compromise then there's always one somewhere in a salary cap league.

I'd like to see some youth blooded as well, we missed that last year really although we still had some youth in the side all the same. So 2-3 more senior signings to give us options and depth and then some good young players being given a chance will suit me :)


Agreed , another good thing there is no shortage of left footed players in this years squad , Brown , Broich , Oar ,McKay ,OToole , Rowles, good to have depth


Broich is right footed.

Interesting times ahead.
Edited
9 Years Ago by BRFC_92
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
Has there been any indication of when tickets for the FFA cup game v Perth will go on sale or is it going to be done the old-fashioned way, pay at the gate?
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
Stabilo
Stabilo
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.2K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
Has there been any indication of when tickets for the FFA cup game v Perth will go on sale or is it going to be done the old-fashioned way, pay at the gate?


God i hope not. Ballymore wouldn't cope at all with everyone buying on the gate (in its current state). I'd say the club will have them out by the weekend surely.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Stabilo
maxxie
maxxie
Pro
Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)Pro (3.7K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.6K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
Jonsnow wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
Waz wrote:
maxxie wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
I wonder if Roar will play a 4123 this year .Ideally we need another midfielder with good defensive abilities in midfield to allow for a 4213.A lot may depend on whether Pepper can step up.He is more mobile and energetic than Petrat.
Petrat and McKay are not good defenders.Maybe Petrat and Borello can go back to battling for the right forward position.
McKay,Oar and Broich somehow will need to fit into two spots on the left.
We still need back up for McClaren and the backs.
Looking at the squad so far,Aloisi is going to have to try some different formations like 442.

Aloisi expressed a strong desire to play different formations and even said Roar would change formations during games including 4-3-3 as standard and 4-2-3-1 with Maclaren playing lone striker. A formation with two holding midfielders would suit Roar with the ney guy plus either McKay or Pepper in the second position


I think 4-2-3-1 would allow us to get more out of an ageing Broich by moving him into a number 10 position. He usually drifts into that area anyway, and if we play Oar on the left and Borrello on the right, it will stretch the opposition and leave Broich with the space to operate in the middle. We can play the new guy next to Mckay with Mckay acting as the link to move the ball quickly between defence and attack like what he did for the national team.

Have we signed a new LB?

No new LB. Aloisi says he's going with Brown backed by O'Toole.

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol


Brown has the look of a winger who was converted to LB late in his development. He really isn't a good defender, but looks quite good when given the opportunity to go forward. The problem is Broich is ageing and can't track back, so Brown won't be able to make as many runs forward without leaving us exposed at the back. I honestly think Brown should be a back up LW and we should sign another LB.


Read an article somewhere about OToole , was voted most dominant left back in T 1 high school football in Japan , was also back up to Gersbach in recent Aus u20s games .
Still only 19 but if yer good enough , you should get a chance.
Also regarding a striker , Dagastino has been banging them in for NPL side , would like to see him get a run this year.

I'm happy enough with a Brown/O'Toole LB combo, if it's a compromise then there's always one somewhere in a salary cap league.

I'd like to see some youth blooded as well, we missed that last year really although we still had some youth in the side all the same. So 2-3 more senior signings to give us options and depth and then some good young players being given a chance will suit me :)


Looking forward to seeing what O'Toole has to offer considering his youth record. Would like to see him break into the first 11 and then have Brown on the bench as a utility to cover the whole left side.
Edited
9 Years Ago by maxxie
Footballking55
Footballking55
Pro
Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)Pro (3.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.2K, Visits: 0
With Deverre's surgery, any idea how long he'll be out for?

Could Polenz cover as a CB?

Forgot Oar is with us, should be good this season.

With decent options at DM, we shouldn't have the blowouts that occurred last year.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Footballking55
BRFC_92
BRFC_92
Pro
Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.4K, Visits: 0
Footballking55 wrote:
With Deverre's surgery, any idea how long he'll be out for?

Could Polenz cover as a CB?

Forgot Oar is with us, should be good this season.

With decent options at DM, we shouldn't have the blowouts that occurred last year.


End of next month he'll be back apparently.

Yes, he could, don't know if he's in JA's plans though.
Edited
9 Years Ago by BRFC_92
BRFC_92
BRFC_92
Pro
Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)Pro (2.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.4K, Visits: 0
Wanderers lead 2-0 at half time in our pre season friendly thanks to goals from Mario Shabow and Jaushua Sotirio :shock:
Edited
9 Years Ago by BRFC_92
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
BRFC_92 wrote:
Wanderers lead 2-0 at half time in our pre season friendly thanks to goals from Mario Shabow and Jaushua Sotirio :shock:

Turned into a 2-1 loss. Broich pulled one back. Sounds like a decent game for both sides despite the 25 substitutions. Hopefully JA learned something.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
lolitsbigmic
lolitsbigmic
World Class
World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)World Class (7.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7.5K, Visits: 0
BRFC_92 wrote:
Wanderers lead 2-0 at half time in our pre season friendly thanks to goals from Mario Shabow and Jaushua Sotirio :shock:


Do you know why was playing in defense?
Edited
9 Years Ago by lolitsbigmic
paulc
paulc
Legend
Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 15K, Visits: 0
lolitsbigmic wrote:
BRFC_92 wrote:
Wanderers lead 2-0 at half time in our pre season friendly thanks to goals from Mario Shabow and Jaushua Sotirio :shock:


Do you know why was playing in defense?


I guess they wanted to stop the opposition from scoring :lol:

Don't mind me, carry on!

In a resort somewhere

Edited
9 Years Ago by paulc
crimsoncrusoe
crimsoncrusoe
World Class
World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.9K, Visits: 0
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .
Edited
9 Years Ago by crimsoncrusoe
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
Mr B
Mr B
Legend
Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 14K, Visits: 1
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication

Theo was in goals for the first half, which is when we conceded 2...... Young on in the second.



Edited
9 Years Ago by MrBrisbane
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
MrBrisbane wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication

Theo was in goals for the first half, which is when we conceded 2...... Young on in the second.

Bit of a stretch that though. Theo has had his day I agree but unless they release him he'll be our #2 keeper all season
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
HeyItsRobbie
HeyItsRobbie
World Class
World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)World Class (6.8K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.5K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
MrBrisbane wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication

Theo was in goals for the first half, which is when we conceded 2...... Young on in the second.

Bit of a stretch that though. Theo has had his day I agree but unless they release him he'll be our #2 keeper all season

i would be blaming the defence more than the keeper i reckon.
Edited
9 Years Ago by HeyItsRobbie
Mr B
Mr B
Legend
Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 14K, Visits: 1
HeyItsRobbie wrote:
Waz wrote:
MrBrisbane wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication

Theo was in goals for the first half, which is when we conceded 2...... Young on in the second.

Bit of a stretch that though. Theo has had his day I agree but unless they release him he'll be our #2 keeper all season

i would be blaming the defence more than the keeper i reckon.


We have a defence? :lol: So was it Bowles and O'Toole in defence?



Edited
9 Years Ago by MrBrisbane
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
MrBrisbane wrote:
HeyItsRobbie wrote:
Waz wrote:
MrBrisbane wrote:
Waz wrote:
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
It's hard to know what conclusions to draw from the game,although 2-nil down at halftime is never good ,when most of your A-team is playing .

None. Way too early - even the FFA cup games don't give a good indication

Theo was in goals for the first half, which is when we conceded 2...... Young on in the second.

Bit of a stretch that though. Theo has had his day I agree but unless they release him he'll be our #2 keeper all season

i would be blaming the defence more than the keeper i reckon.


We have a defence? :lol: So was it Bowles and O'Toole in defence?

O'Toole is a LB. came on in the second half.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
crimsoncrusoe
crimsoncrusoe
World Class
World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)World Class (7.1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.9K, Visits: 0
No North ,so Bowles and a youngster at CB.Clearly we are threadbare there at the moment.
Also interesting there was no Pepper or Polenz.
I imagine Aloisi was having a good look at us defensively with youngsters to see where he needs reinforcements.
Also with no Broich in the first half ,I wonder whether we struggled with Corona already gone?
Edited
9 Years Ago by crimsoncrusoe
Roar_Brisbane
Roar_Brisbane
Legend
Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)Legend (14K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 14K, Visits: 0
FullBack4 wrote:

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol

Why do people keep trying to trot out that Brown is a decent player? He's not, he's rubbish. He continually makes the same mistake every single game. He's almost always out of position - allowing other teams to either get someone to drift inside of him or play the pass inside of him while he's 20 metres away ball watching and thus resulting in a goal (if not multiple).
Edited
9 Years Ago by Roar_Brisbane
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol

Why do people keep trying to trot out that Brown is a decent player? He's not, he's rubbish. He continually makes the same mistake every single game. He's almost always out of position - allowing other teams to either get someone to drift inside of him or play the pass inside of him while he's 20 metres away ball watching and thus resulting in a goal (if not multiple).

I actually agree with both of you, it's perhaps more correct to say that Brown has a lot of talent but (as you say) keeps making the same mistakes defensively so becomes a liability. Personally I think this is a coaching problem, and neither John or Ross can fix it because they don't seem to have this skills. I would have liked to see Roar hire a discus list defensive coach for this season
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
crimsoncrusoe wrote:
No North ,so Bowles and a youngster at CB.Clearly we are threadbare there at the moment.
Also interesting there was no Pepper or Polenz.
I imagine Aloisi was having a good look at us defensively with youngsters to see where he needs reinforcements.
Also with no Broich in the first half ,I wonder whether we struggled with Corona already gone?

I think threadbare is a bit harsh - going on JAs mantra of two players competing for every position we have three senior players there: North, Bowles and DeVere. Then Rowles. After that it's all makeshift such as Polenz and the kid who started yesterday. If DeVere regains fitness all is good, if not we might be in the sh*t at CB this season - I just hope the Aloisi's are calling DeVere's fitness correctly
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
miron mercedes
miron mercedes
Pro
Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)Pro (2.8K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.7K, Visits: 0
Waz wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol

Why do people keep trying to trot out that Brown is a decent player? He's not, he's rubbish. He continually makes the same mistake every single game. He's almost always out of position - allowing other teams to either get someone to drift inside of him or play the pass inside of him while he's 20 metres away ball watching and thus resulting in a goal (if not multiple).

I actually agree with both of you, it's perhaps more correct to say that Brown has a lot of talent but (as you say) keeps making the same mistakes defensively so becomes a liability. Personally I think this is a coaching problem, and neither John or Ross can fix it because they don't seem to have this skills. I would have liked to see Roar hire a discus list defensive coach for this season

Moore is already at the club. He could be a good one to take Brown and the backs aside maybe once a week to impart his vast defensive knowledge.
Steff is also still at the club and is a left back. Can he show Brown some positional skills ?

Edited by miron mercedes: 30/7/2016 09:02:05 AM
Edited
9 Years Ago by miron mercedes
Waz
Waz
Legend
Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)Legend (19K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
miron mercedes wrote:
Waz wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
FullBack4 wrote:

Brown is very good, just inconsistent and when he's put under pressure his brain "ejects" lol

Why do people keep trying to trot out that Brown is a decent player? He's not, he's rubbish. He continually makes the same mistake every single game. He's almost always out of position - allowing other teams to either get someone to drift inside of him or play the pass inside of him while he's 20 metres away ball watching and thus resulting in a goal (if not multiple).

I actually agree with both of you, it's perhaps more correct to say that Brown has a lot of talent but (as you say) keeps making the same mistakes defensively so becomes a liability. Personally I think this is a coaching problem, and neither John or Ross can fix it because they don't seem to have this skills. I would have liked to see Roar hire a discus list defensive coach for this season

Moore is already at the club. He could be a good one to take Brown and the backs aside maybe once a week to impart his vast defensive knowledge.
Steff is also still at the club and is a left back. Can he show Brown some positional skills ?

Edited by miron mercedes: 30/7/2016 09:02:05 AM

That's a reasonable point but with Moore and Steff in Operations/Admin I think we need someone full time on defence
Edited
9 Years Ago by Waz
clivesundies
clivesundies
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.2K, Visits: 0


If they sign Katebian i believe one of the other forwards must be on the move, also some happenings upstairs maybe.
Edited
9 Years Ago by clivesundies
GO


Select a Forum....























Inside Sport


Search