One of the other forwards??? That would be Maclaren at the moment lol. D'Aggers and Katebian might make a suitable tag team to back up Maclaren but all the same, there's way to much analysis going in to this one signing. The kid will be signed into Roars youth program which Aloisi decimated this time last year when he decided more than half the squad weren't good enough to make the grade and let them go. Roar now has an age gap with not enough players 19 or 20 coming through (to be fair there's a couple in the first team) which Katebian would seem to fit into

I'm assuming DeVere if not retiring ,will be constantly injured.Four years of injuries points to a massive problem.Also Brown and a youth player on the right.What team won't target that weakness?
As we all know Brown is great going forward and if he concentrates hard he can have a good defensive game.But he is a liability that constantly concedes goals directly or indirectly.His mistakes drag CB's out of position and MCKay is not good enough defensively to cover.
In fact McKay would still be a better fullback.
I hope Brown proves everyone wrong.But which Roar supporter won't be finding religion every time the opposition attack goes down the right ?

I still find It strange that when players have weaknesses ,they don't get specialised coaching.
A good defensive coach who can teach one on one defending would help many players.
Likewise a coach to teach shooting technique to help the likes of McKay and Broich.
Of course there is the possibility there are specialised coaches and the players just can't improve.

Some really good points in there.

Let's assume the starting CBs are North/Bowles bolstered by having a proper DM in front of them. That's good enough but unless DeVere sits on the bench it leaves Roar short if injury/fatigue kicks in which, in an ACL season, it will. Another option for JA is to play 4-2-3-1 and use Pepper/Mckay as a second DM?

To compensate for Browns defensive frailties which I think can be summarised as (poor) positioning, decision making and a touch of laziness (compare brown when the ball's turned over to Mckay who's basically meep-meep and chasing back like a bat out of hell meanwhile Brown canters back interested to see what happens next). All three are coachable.

There's another thread running on this site about why teenagers/kids aren't getting more starts, well when they do you have to put up with the sort of errors brown makes until they work through them. And in reality sometimes that needs game time.

Regarding Brown, I think we have to face it that some players are just not able to dispose of their bad habits and he's one of them.

It's been at least 2 years now that we see the same thing over and over again and I find it hard to believe no one at the club has tried to coach him correctly. FFS he has a championship winning dad who would have at least tried to help him.

We need a left back period.

An interesting point raised by commentators in last nights Atletico vSpurs game.Their left back Luis failed miserably in England,I think for Chelsea,but Simeone worked hard on his defence and turned him into a good defensive player.So the right coaching can work.Players like Davidson can go year after year not improving because the right coach can't teach him how to improve or ......

Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 30/7/2016 05:27:36 PM

Someone needs to teach brown positioning

Too much brown hate . He is a decent player and is still developing having a full season as first choice will test him I hope he improves but he not the liability everyone here makes out

Agree , give the lad a chance ,period.

There's a members mail out this morning replicated in the website and Facebook pages:

http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/brisbane-roar-memberships-on-sale-august-10/17stx972y6ypm1qd14v63g1fyc

Highlights:

- memberships go on sale Aug 10th
- same prices as last year
- current members have until September 7th to renew same seats
- payment plans are enabled for full season memberships
- global membership returns this year (that should make 5 people happy lol)
- FFA Cup tickets on sale today $15 adults, $10 concessions, kids 12 and under go free:

http://www.eventopia.co/event/Brisbane-Roar-v-Perth-Glory/332515

I agree he should improve and has potential,but he was, without doubt, a liability last season. His defence was very poor and naive.
He needs coaching in defensive technique (body positioning particularly ) and spatial awareness.
He is a ball watcher and constantly loses his man.
He has a lot of catching up to do .

Edited by miron mercedes: 31/7/2016 10:46:34 AM

I'd say the same could be said for the whole defence last season, it wasn't our strong point and all would benefit from some dedicated coaching - Brown and Bowles especially but even North and Hingert

Edited by Waz: 31/7/2016 02:25:38 PM

I still remember that handball superman dive Corey Brown did ](*,) :lol:

Except Filipe Luis was already a great defensive player under Simeone before he went to England.

true, but then there's Bowles with his back turned at a goal kick v city, Donachie getting turned inside out, the defensive brain-fades v Glory, there's enough to say we should focus on general Improvements not just one player

Found this on Twitter:

RUMOUR: German reports - Centre-back Georg Niedermeier is to join Brisbane Roar - over 140 appearances in Bundesliga for Stuttgart

#Aleague From Nicholas Rupolo on Twitter

That would be a great pick up for your lot. Finally a decent defender... only took 2 seasons :lol:

Hahaha.

We have SOME good defenders

More German power is just what we need .

twitter often proves to be remarkably accurate lol

Let's hope so!

Here's his wiki for anyone interested - pretty sure he captained Stuttgart at points last season

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Niedermeier

cant argue with those stats :) JA said he wouldn't be signing another defender but DeVeres latest injury should be enough to persuade him surely? It's all gone quiet on Holman as well but with Troisi set to return ro the HAL (most likely to victory?) maybe he's still an option too?

If true it would mean Devere is in big trouble and probably polenz gone.

I don't think there's any connection to Polenz, we've got two capable right backs in Hingert/Bowles and a third in Pepper already - so Polenz will go if Roar can find a humane way of getting rid which after a month of negotiation they haven't found. DeVere on the other hand is one of only 3 CBs plus Rowles and you don't have to be Nostradamus to predict that after 4 years of struggling with injury DeVere is a risky proposition for next season. Aloisi woukd be wise to pick up some exierience now.

played with Matthew Delpierre....he may be his link to the A-League.

I'n pretty much convinced this site was the only link to a Dutch midfielder reportedl "also linked with Brisbane Roar" this time last week and I think we may be in the same territory ;)

Exactly. Even with a fully fit Devere, we need more defensive cover. It just has to happen.

esoecially if there is to be an ACL campaign

The added bonus if this comes true is that the two new foreigners have been captains .I am pretty sure there is a high success rate for foreigners playing here that have been captains.
Being a captain normally suggests added self motivation and personal discipline.

For sure. Do we know if it'll be a home tie or an away tie?

Not yet. Many of the leagues don't finish for a couple of months so until the qualifiers are known we won't know. Hopefully at home :)