Looking at that stats site, purely on statistics, he looks about as good or better than Berisha, Mclaren and others.  Where he does seem to excel all is in successful dribbles.  This is something which shouldnt be overlooked.  It is one of the most important aspects of all stats, because when a player does this, he sucks in other players and creates space for others.  If this Japanese striker (or Mebratu) do start to fire, the Roar defence has the potential to be the number one in the comp, imo.

I meant to also say, it is a shame he doesnt have a left foot.  If he works on this, he will be a very, very good Aleague level striker.  I think he is viewed too harshly by many on here. He is improving and has improvement in him. He is far better than Dagostino, who seems to be highly regarded by many.

Interesting perspective and I agree with what you are saying. 
Yes id rather have DWH there instead of Dags.
Dags just never kicked on at Brisbane and I believe DWH had more improvement in him yet. 
Plus the guy gives 110% consistently and we gotta love that 

One thing Brisbane has been very good at in the past is taking young Australian strikers and giving them a platform to succeed. McLaren came here at 22 and set the league on fire then we repeated that with taggs who came at 23. When you compare dwh to those 2 it is clear that he does not have the same technical ability at the same age but he does have much more desire and fire then those 2. 

Besart is the prime example of how desire can win over technical ability in the aleague, he doesn't have a great touch or many tricks but he will fight for everything and knows where to be to score. I think dwh can be a mainstay aleague striker if he is played to his strengths but unfortunately like with bes that requires a class playmaker that we are missing (particularly when O'shae is played deep) McDonald may provide one opportunity a game but that is nowhere near enough. 

I've been saying it for a while but we age go back to 433 which gives us 2 forward playmaker instead of relying on hingert and brown to whip crosses or long balls from the back into 5 foot nothing dwh.

I think Moons way of playing is very clearly set, and 4-3-3 is a nothing formation that’s had its day now. The 22-pass goal Roar scored is how Moon intends to play but he is going to need some new personnel. 

Sitting 3rd with a game in hand on the the team in second.  Since you seem to be so genuinely interested in Brisbane's fortunes, here's a link you can bookmark and check for yourself.  Or do you prefer to continue with your smarmy little comments?

https://www.a-league.com.au/ladder

Hey lads I’m in Gold Coast and thinking about going to the match on Saturday. Is it hard to get to dolphin from Gold Coast? 

No.

If you catch trains you can go into Roma Street/Central Station/Bowen Hills and change to the Kippa Ring train. Then use the shuttle buses from Kippa Ring station. If you have a car and want to use the trains Nerang Station has parking right at the station. It is about a 2 1/2 hour trip from Nerang to Kippa RIng - then however long it takes to get on a shuttle and go the few minutes to Dolphin.

If you have a car and are happy to drive, that is much simpler. Drive up the Pacific Motorway M1 (left lane onto the Airport/Gateway Motorway M1 exit, then continue on the M1 over the Gateway bridge (toll) and all the way to the Redcliffe Exit. Take the left fork off the 'Redcliffe Bridge'. You stay straight on that road through Kippa Ring until the roundabout at Klingner Road where you turn right onto the road that takes you to the stadium.

3 turns from Gold Coast to the stadium. About 1 1/2 hours.

We can't afford to play O'Shea deep. He is our main creative input and chance maker. When he has Scotty Mac to rotate with and share the build up play he performs much better - and while Scotty Mac may not create many chances I think that is because other teams shut him down which frees up more space for O'Shea to work with.

I would be putting Jesse-Daley in as DM and move O'Shea further forward - and especially so with Scotty Mac out.

It's not that he's scored 5 goals it's who he scored them against and who he hasn't scored against. He has plenty of aggression, lots of energy, workrate and he isn't a dumb footballer, but he isn't a quality 9s backside.

Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.

The only thing obscuring my view is the incessant garbage you post.  Out of your last 20 posts, 9 have been nonsensical shitposts about Brisbane or the Roar players.  Your obsession and hate for the Roar is unhealthy.  R U OK?

AnthonyC - this is the first post I have seen of yours where you actually provide some sensible discussion - then you add the crap about a quality 9's backside.

We welcome posters from other teams on this thread, but only where they provide discussion. No need for the rubbish add-ons.

You can pay out on Roar in match threads, and any other thread you want, maybe even dig up the old Roar Circus thread(s) if you feel so strongly about it. But please respect our house when you post on this thread.

I shouldn't try and change the subject but the 4-3-3 is still fairly common formation especially with the big clubs in Europe, so thats a weird take sorry lol.

Its an amazingly tight ladder at the moment.
If Brisbane and WSW lose  their next game and PG,AU and WU win their next games(SFC will win also ny beating BR),then Brisbane and WSW will fall to 7th and 8th place respectively.
Then  consider that WSW play MC,who then play MV and they will also leapfrog Brisbane and WSW.
So Brisbane and WSW could be 8th and 9th in one week.
Crazy stuff and scary,because neither Brisbane nor WSW have easy games.SFC and MC respectively.Then WU away for both.
PG have heaps of games in hand and play CCM at home.
AU have NJ at home.
WU have WSW at home.
😬😬😬

Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola and a variety of other coaches say hi.

Which A League teams do they coach? 

Thankfully we don’t play in Europe - although we do base our entire NC on the friggin formation. 

Just off topic for Roar but who in the AL plays 4-3-3 now? 

Adelaide most of the time.

:rolleyes:

Jesus Waz I agree with you most of the time but that 4-3-3 comment that it is done and dusted is not true in my book at least,  or many others I'd dare to suggest. 

I still use it, but I do use 4231 and 4132 which are tweaks on 433. I also use 442 if necessary. However I will agree that in professional football and higher leagues a 3 man defence with 2 wing backs is becoming very common, but pro football is a small percentage of those who play. But I'm thinking that's what you were getting at. 

And I guess the Thing is at the the end of the day if the opposition is quicker, stronger and more skilful etc, probably doesn't matter what shape you play, you will mostly lose. 

There’s nothing new in football and everything comes and goes, until it comes back again. That’s where we are with 4-3-3. 

A detailed and informative post for sure Waz. 

The competent coach will look at his squad and decide what structure suits the players he has at his disposal.....and of course his own idea with how he wants to play. 

Bearing in mind who he is playing against on any particular day, and that may affect his team shape and structure on any particular day. 

Exception might be a pro squad where the coach can just go out and buy someone to suit.

Unfortunately for most of us who don't have that luxury we have the adjust with what we have. Actually not such a bad thing. 

Hoping Kudo is getting closer?

anyone know?

MelbCityGuy - did you end up booking tickets?

I’m hoping Brisbane show some  winning form today,otherwise we are heading for a serious slide .
The only team not to win in the last four games  and still unable to beat the top teams.
After SFC we have WU and WP away.
Then WU at home.
CCM keep winning.Amazing.
☹️

I don't feel like we are ready to click again yet. Unless MacDonald comes back this game or Kudo gets a decent amount of time (and does what we are hoping he will do) I can't see anything to trigger a change in how we are playing at the moment - dangerous but not controlling.

O'Shea has to play higher up the field. We need his attacking creativity creating the opportunities he does. We also need him to blaze over the bar early in the game so we know he is back where we want him to be.

I don't question our drive and spirit - especially at home against Sydney - but we need someone to provide control in the final third to turn our loose cannons into guided missiles.

Edit: I don't think we are sliding. We will probably lose places on the table, but we are not in a slump and we are certainly not playing badly. We are just not finding the net again which is a frequent problem with our team. Opportunities are there - CCM for one are converting theirs which makes all the difference.

Tbh I think that any side that has players as deeply flawed as Hingert and Brown starting in key positions is going to struggle to mount a challenge for titles. 

Yet CCM seem to be doing fine with their players,like Clisby ,who were the same players who received a wooden spoon each?
CCM like Brisbane and even WSW got off to a flying start ,probably with some help from the early Covid chaos ,the draw and ACL ,which really impacted some teams.
As teams are finding their form with regular games,the quality players are also finding form and teams like PG,WU and MC are climbing the ladder.
CCM has been boosted by their three Visa players and have kept their momentum going ,while Brisbane and WSW have stalled and risk sliding unless they can find another gear.
A lot of young players have been given a chance this year with regular game time and at the start of the season they were flying.I get the feeling all have started to feel the pinch .Which is understandable as they are not used to the high intensity games week in week out.
AU were one of those teams that started to struggle  and its no surprise Goodwin has had an immediate impact.
Brisbane has DWH and some young midfielders and its clear DWH has started to fray with his workload.Which is the difference between hitting the post and scoring.
Brisbane really need Macca and Kudo to step up and make an impact otherwise,Brisbane are destined for a midtable finish as the teams with Visa quality pass us by.PG,MC,WU and SFC.