Futsal creates bad habits


Futsal creates bad habits

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i have heard this from 2 coaches, one high in the structure and one low down, when asked for specifics no answer given. So can anyone else shed light on this statement.
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Futsal is a diff game to sockah.

As is beach sockah, freestyling, juggling circus acts and rythmic gymnastics with ball.

I've never known one leading youth talent (that went on to shine at senior top tier soccer) that played futsal in his teenage years.
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dirkvanadidas wrote:
i have heard this from 2 coaches, one high in the structure and one low down, when asked for specifics no answer given. So can anyone else shed light on this statement.

Maybe something to do with gross motor vs fine motor skills? ie: not being able to hit a long pass, diminishing spatial awareness and only utilising anaerobic fitness. It's great for keepers' reactions, as is handball, but, again, diminishes a goalkeeper's ability to judge distance and space within his/her area.
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Judy Free wrote:
Futsal is a diff game to sockah.

As is beach sockah, freestyling, juggling circus acts and rythmic gymnastics with ball.

I've never known one leading youth talent (that went on to shine at senior top tier soccer) that played futsal in his teenage years.

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What a load of rot
Futsal is brilliant for young players my only concern is at 15 players can be injured due to the hard surface their lack of co ordination and the weight increase.

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krones3 wrote:
What a load of rot
Futsal is brilliant for young players my only concern is at 15 players can be injured due to the hard surface their lack of co ordination and the weight increase.

Keepers going from futsal to outdoor tend to struggle. Other way takes time to adjust, too - different skill set I guess.
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“Futsal was important in helping to develop my ball control, quick thinking, passing and also for dribbling, balance, concentration... Futsal was very, very important, no doubt.”
Pele, World Cup Winner: 1958, 1962 & 1970

not sure if he gave it up too early




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Futsal is often credited with why Brazilian players have such good technical ability.

According to Pele:

"Of course futsal was important in helping to develop my ball control, quick thinking, passing... of course you have to have an aptitude for both futsal and normal football and you must have the capacity to adjust because of the differences in the games. But for dribbling, balance, concentration... futsal was very, very important, no doubt. Futsal helped produce many great players in my generation like Paulo Cesar and Rivellino. All the best players began with futsal. Robinho started with futsal and played when he was 10 to 12 years old. Diego also played in futsal tournaments when he was very young".

http://www.futsal.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51:interview-with-pele&catid=46:interviews&Itemid=74

Ronaldhino played a lot as a child. Here's some footage:

http://www.insidefutsal.com/2010/11/ronaldinho-childsuperstar-on-futsal/


OK I was beaten to the line with that Pele quote!





Edited by distantfan: 16/8/2011 07:55:28 PM
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http://www.futsal.com.au/index.html

Click on Futuroos and review training sessions.

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From the recent Young Socceroos Antonis, Bulut, Hamill, Ibini-Isei and Petratos all played futsal until at least under 14s, I think Ibini-Isei and Petratos may have played 16s/Youth as well. They were 5 of our better players.
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In my opinion futsal helps you with your ball control, cordination, quick thinking etc. I personally play normal 11vs11 and futsal helps me tremendously because its a faster game with more pace than 11v11.
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I think futsal should be part of a balanced training program. If your team is training 4 times a week then a session every week or 2 is not going to hurt.

If futsal doesn't help improve your one-touch passing, 1-2's, dribbling and quick shooting then my arse doesn't point to the ground.

Futsal is just a codified form of street soccer and street soccer has been credited for years by players all of the world for their close dribbling skills and passing etc.


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Judy Free wrote:
http://www.futsal.com.au/index.html

Click on Futuroos and review training sessions.

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To be fair that is aimed at 4 to 9 year olds.


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Yeah, futsal is known for its fast pace, 1-2 passes, and quick dribbling. It will definately benefit you on the normal pitch.
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I'm not sure if futsal creates bad habits but this is the real question: Would a football player be better if he practiced football 6 hours a day or would they be better if they practiced 4 hours a day and 2 hours of futsal. In others words, does futsal add value to an outdoor player? The perfect practice theory would contend not but screw it, it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

Edited by JuveJuve: 17/8/2011 10:12:13 AM
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Munrubenmuz wrote:
Judy Free wrote:
http://www.futsal.com.au/index.html

Click on Futuroos and review training sessions.

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To be fair that is aimed at 4 to 9 year olds.


"stretching" for 4 year olds, lol.

Now, if futsal was played with a real sockah ball it would have a better claim to assist dev of real players.

But, geez, that whole indoor environment can create a heated atmosphere for many parents. All derogatory comments are heard. Significantly worse than the outdoor saturday sideline stalker mentality.


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If its good enough for the Brazilians it's good enough for me.
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Is futsal a new game? How does it differ from the "indoor soccer" that was played in Australia thirty years ago?

In that game, the ball wasn't allowed to go above waist height, and you couldn't score from inside the penalty circle. Or does that happen in futsal too?
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localstar wrote:
Is futsal a new game? How does it differ from the "indoor soccer" that was played in Australia thirty years ago?

In that game, the ball wasn't allowed to go above waist height, and you couldn't score from inside the penalty circle. Or does that happen in futsal too?


The ball goes out instead of off a wall. The ball is smaller and heavier. The goal is taller. You can kick it at any height. etc.

Try google or youtube.


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Well its the footballs version of Zumba! :D Only Kidding
Is great fun and great for fitness too
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JuveJuve wrote:
I'm not sure if futsal creates bad habits but this is the real question: Would a football player be better if he practiced football 6 hours a day or would they be better if they practiced 4 hours a day and 2 hours of futsal. In others words, does futsal add value to an outdoor player? The perfect practice theory would contend not but screw it, it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

Edited by JuveJuve: 17/8/2011 10:12:13 AM


This is the real point. Is it more likely that a young player will train for six hours or is it more likely that they will train for four hours and play futsal for two hours. I think the latter is far more likely to retain players.
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Judy Free - 16 Aug 2011 6:41 PM
Futsal is a diff game to sockah.

As is beach sockah, freestyling, juggling circus acts and rythmic gymnastics with ball.

I've never known one leading youth talent (that went on to shine at senior top tier soccer) that played futsal in his teenage years.

I think you are very wrong (and others on here) about Futsal.  There are plenty of examples of Futsal players going on to 'shine' as for the comment by someone else about the ball, what do you mean it isn't a real football?  Of course it is, it may be slightly heavier and doesn't bounce much, but it moves on the ground the same way, under foot behaves  the same way.  As a development system it is brilliant.

Even the FA has belatedly recognized this and is encouraging associations to implement Futsal programs 
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Post_hoc - 29 Aug 2018 2:53 PM

I think you are very wrong (and others on here) about Futsal.  There are plenty of examples of Futsal players going on to 'shine' as for the comment by someone else about the ball, what do you mean it isn't a real football?  Of course it is, it may be slightly heavier and doesn't bounce much, but it moves on the ground the same way, under foot behaves  the same way.  As a development system it is brilliant.

Even the FA has belatedly recognized this and is encouraging associations to implement Futsal programs 







One player I was coaching in outdoor  developed the La Croqueta move from playing futsal - without me imparting it in sequential stages .

The player started using  it to devastating effect in outdoor and futsal.
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Decentric - 30 Aug 2018 10:16 AM
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Post_hoc - 29 Aug 2018 2:53 PM







One player I was coaching in outdoor  developed the La Croqueta move from playing futsal - without me imparting it in sequential stages .

The player started using  it to devastating effect in outdoor and futsal.

It rewards creativity, and on the flip side it does teach defenders to be more patient as diving in can very quickly make you look very silly in Futsal.  Kudo's to the kid
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