I found out a few years ago that a friend of mine lost her virginity at 7 to a rape from her own father. That's when I learned that people are sick.

krack - that shit cray. those sorts of stories are the worst ones.

a family friends daughter had similar done to her - 17 at a high school party & was drugged/raped by 8 rugby league players simultaneously. she hasn't been the same since - she has physical & emotional problems she'll never overcome. she's found a really nice guy (and apparently, according to my mrs, niece, mum, sister, friends, etc - he's an 11/10 in the looks department) who had two kids already though, so she's living a relatively normal life, so karma has come around i guess.

i was 12 at the time we all found out about it, and my immense passionate hatred for rugby league (that i still hold today) was cemented directly from that story - fxxxing terrible culture.

Holy shit, did she go to the police or anything? The girl I mentioned didn't because I guess she didn't want anyone to know about it (I wasn't meant to be told about it) and wanted to just forget about it and move on.

I don't know how much it has affected her though, she has banged a few guys since then and isn't really more careful about going off with guys, getting separated from her friends etc. but I wouldn't really know how it has changed her

this was relatively what i was thinking.

if i were you i'd act stand-off-ish via phone/email/fb/etc and let her deal with her shit in her own space/time. by the time you guys are back together, she'll either be worse or she'll realise that her being like she is (upset/etc), makes you like you are (stand-off-ish), and she'll miss you & lay it all out anyway. and if she doesn't, and she's just as bad as she is now, take her into a room & literally stand in the doorway and not let her out. tell her that her quietness/sadness/etc is driving you insane, it's not healthy, and you can't help without knowing the full details & if there's one person you can share the details with, it's you. don't move from the doorway until she's punching/crying/screaming at you, and she'll eventually spit it out. the scary thing (and i'm sorry to be so blunt) is it could be a really seemingly bad thing - she could not be into the relationship anymore, she could be unexpectedly pregnant, she could be losing her job, etc. or she could be doing the chick thing, and she stepped on some scales that aren't calibrated the same as the ones at home, and they say she's 2kg fatter than the home ones.

i understand i'm 23 and married. i am under no illusion i'm not whipped. but i don't trampled on - i don't let the mrs fxxx me around emotionally - i've drilled it into her that she nearly needs to talk before she thinks about me, nothing she ever says/thinks/etc is going to change how i feel about her, and anything seemingly bad she has on her mind i'm only ever going to support her. you have to put your foot down & basically whack this bs out of your mrs, and basically tell her she can't hide stuff from you because that's not what you signed up for, not what she did, and it's not healthy for the relationship.

tbh if you let her be emotional, tip-toe around it, etc - you'll create a habit. you'll be treading lightly around her for the rest of your life (assuming you're in a relationship you never see ending - i don't know the context) and it's those types of things that people in their 40s whinge about at the pub, the reason men lose hair, and the reason we can't eat sugar lollies as our blood pressure is too high. it may seem like a small thing - but it's something that if you let happen too much/often, it will eventually send you batshit crazy

Lordy. This girl was 21 and went home with the guy after a night out but didn't want to go that far, he forced it on her anyway.

Sadly, I know a number of girls that are like both of the above.

One of my exes lost her virginity to her cousin who left her crying and bruised in a wardrobe. Another girl I know lost her v's to her uncle. This kind of thing is alarmingly common amongst Gen Y kids. I've been informed later that I was unwittingly talking shit in the next room to it happening, there are few things more sickening.

Moving onto girls then? :P

I can't see that being any less drama :lol:

My ex got raped by some random guy she met at s party . She was 12 he was 37.she was messed up bad .

I can't see that being any less drama :lol:

If they glance at you a bit that's usually a fair guess.

How am I meant to notice that though? :lol:

The fact that some girls are so blindly oblivious to guys taking interest in them astounds me. If he goes out of his way to talk to you at any time for no real reason, best believe he wants a bone.

That's also called being friendly though.

You serious? 99% of the time (and that's being conservative) guys will have the motive of wanting to get laid, including when they're being friendly. How do some girls still not get this?

We don't think the same way. We like to have guys as friends too.

Be that as it may, I thought the discussion was about what males think, not females

It is, but guys talk to not so attractive girls too (such as myself).

So no guy is being nice to me because they want to be friends?

So no guy is being nice to me because they want to be friends?