The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Just shut the hell up Tony . We made fun of the yanks for dubya, now we have our version . Sadly I can see him being voted back in as people will fall for the slogans

The age of Political slogans are finished. The age of social media mockery has begun and it decides the election.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
Tony Abbott wrote:
I consider myself a conservationist




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"I'm a conservationist" he says. But he wants to lift the heritage listing on Tasmanian forest.

The only thing he's conserving is his own wallet.
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lol, Stephen Rue new CFO of NBN Co.

Fuck me dead they don't even try to hide this shit.

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Ceebs reposting the latest facebook rant, but the hypocrisy of politicians in this nation has reached fever pitch.
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notorganic wrote:
Ceebs reposting the latest facebook rant, but the hypocrisy of politicians in this nation has reached fever pitch.

'twas a quality post. Ridiculous that people get away with such ridiculousness.
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Sadly Noone will care .Some do but the rest are meh. But if this was labour again there will be numerous news bits , opinion pieces etc
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Is this what this what we are heading for? Fucking scandalous.

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Queensland LNP donor Karreman Quarries escapes prosecution for illegal quarrying after Deputy Premier orders legislation change

A big donor to the ruling Liberal National Party in Queensland has escaped prosecution for illegal quarrying because of a last-minute change to legislation ordered by the state's Deputy Premier.

Karreman Quarries was this month facing legal action by the Department of Natural Resources and Mines over unlawful extraction of sand and gravel from the Upper Brisbane River when an amendment, slipped unnoticed into a package of reforms to the Water Act, retrospectively legalised its activities.

The change was not mentioned in the bill that preceded the vote on the amendments and even the Labor Opposition knew nothing about it.

ABC's 7.30 has learned the amendment was drafted after a meeting in April called at short notice by Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney at which the Karreman case was raised. The meeting was attended by Natural Resources Minister Andrew Cripps and senior bureaucrats.

The change to the law means officials are no longer able to prosecute the company. It also means the company's activities at Harlin, worth more than $15 million annually, can continue unimpeded for another five years.

The rivers have their way of doing things and if you abuse that ... it will do what rivers do. It can only literally swallow us up.
Neil O'Connor
The amendment specifies that the type of extraction of quarry material for which Karreman Quarries was under investigation "is lawful, and is taken to have always been lawful".

Emails to farmers at Harlin from the Department of Natural Resources and Mines, seen by the ABC, show that officials had obtained a stop notice against Karreman and were gearing up for legal action to enforce it when the surprise amendment was made to the law.

'We know he's got some powerful friends'

Local farmers have campaigned for 20 years against the company's activities, claiming they cause excessive erosion of their properties.

They are up against Dick Karreman, a prominent Queensland businessman whose company has given $75,000 to the LNP in recent years, making it one of the largest donors.

Ministerial diaries show Mr Karreman met Mr Seeney in December 2013, when the investigation into the company's activities at Harlin was in full swing. The diary says that the purpose of the meeting was "Mining Act".

Neil O'Connor owns properties in the vicinity of the quarry
PHOTO: Neil O'Connor says he has lost 10 acres of land due to erosion caused by Karreman Quarries. (ABC News)
"We know he's got some powerful friends," Harlin farmer Barrie Dunning told the ABC.

"But we've got to be careful about what we say because he's threatened to sue us at times if we complain too much about his not complying with council or department rules."

Neil O'Connor, who owns blocks of land upstream and downstream of the Karreman site, said he had lost about 10 acres of prime land along the river bank.

Mr O'Connor and two neighbours say that between them they have spent $180,000 on desperate attempts to prevent further erosion by building log walls to shore up the banks.

"The rivers have their way of doing things and if you abuse that, which I believe has happened, it will do what rivers do. It can only literally swallow us up."

Their claims are backed by scientists at the Australian Rivers Institute.

Karreman 'indirectly mining properties upstream'

The Institute's Professor Jon Olley, a fluvial geomorphologist at Griffith University, has told 7.30 that Karreman is indirectly mining the properties upstream and benefiting from the sand and gravel washed down into the area where the company is quarrying.

"By disturbing the banks of the channel you actually trigger erosion upstream, delivering material downstream and in effect mining farmer's properties upstream," Professor Olley said.

"They've lost many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars worth of land that they can't get back.

"It's basically gone, it's a resource that they've lost."

The Institute warned in 2007 that sand and gravel extraction on the Upper Brisbane River, which feeds Wivenhoe Dam, was unsustainable and should cease altogether.

New South Wales and Victoria legislated against this type of extraction in the mid-1990s, because they recognise the type of damage this type of extractions [cause].
Professor Jon Olley
The Institute's report said quarrying also flushed excessive sediment and nutrients into Wivenhoe Lake, the main source of drinking water for Brisbane, increasing the costs of water treatment and reducing the lake's capacity.

Professor Olley estimated the additional recurring costs to the Mt Crosby water treatment plant downstream of the dam were $3 million a year.

He said the change to Queensland's Water Act was "a backward step" that reversed reforms enacted under the previous Labor government in 2010.

"The sustainable extraction set by [the Department of Natural Resources and Mines] is 20,000 tonnes a year and what's been coming out is estimated to be 100,000 to 150,000 tonnes," he said.

According to Rivers Institute research, half of the sediment load from the Upper Brisbane River is generated by the 20-kilometre reach where sand and gravel extraction takes place - representing only a quarter of its total length.

Fears amendment is a backward step

Professor Olley noted that other states had long ago outlawed the kind of in-stream quarrying that the Queensland amendment would encourage.

"New South Wales and Victoria legislated against this type of extraction in the mid-1990s, because they recognise the type of damage this type of extraction [causes]," he said.

Mr O'Connor has shown the ABC a letter from Premier Campbell Newman dated June 2013.

In it, Premier Newman said officials had established that Karreman Quarries needed a special permit to mine the watercourse - and that the company did not have such a permit.

The Premier told Mr O'Connor and his wife that he had asked Mr Cripps to carry out a further investigation.

That probe was due to report on June 6. But the new amendment became law the previous day.

"I just can't believe it," Mr O'Connor said.

"What can we do now? We're affected by this amendment. We have nowhere to go."

Responding to questions from the ABC, a law firm acting for Karreman Quarries said that allegations about the lawfulness of the company’s operations and their impacts had often been made without a full appreciation of the legal position and had included factual inaccuracies.

The firm said that when Dick Karreman met Mr Seeney in December, he had not discussed the investigation into the operations in the Upper Brisbane River or changes to the Water Act.

In a statement, Mr Cripps told the ABC that the LNP had always planned to wind back reforms enacted by the previous Labor government relating to river quarrying.

He said the issuing of a compliance notice to Karreman Quarries, in accordance with legislation as it stood at the time, had only drawn its attention to the need for new arrangements.

Mr Seeney said that as his dealings with Clive Palmer had shown, everyone was treated equally by the LNP government.

He said all issues were dealt with based on the facts of the matter at the time.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-23/karreman-quarries-escapes-prosecution-for-illegal-quarrying/5543896


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Australia tumbles down the corruption index at an unprecedented rate.
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Has Shorten thought up a single economic policy yet? Didn't think so. Clearly Labor has no idea how to return to surplus, so they are denying there is a problem at all, despite themselves pledging a return to surplus last year. I suppose they're banking the fate of the nation on the overhyped, over capitalised NBN being some killer productivity driver.
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rusty wrote:
Has Shorten thought up a single economic policy yet? Didn't think so. Clearly Labor has no idea how to return to surplus, so they are denying there is a problem at all, despite themselves pledging a return to surplus last year. I suppose they're banking the fate of the nation on the overhyped, over capitalised NBN being some killer productivity driver.

I thought the function of an opposition leader was to repeat slogans ad nauseum?
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paladisious wrote:
rusty wrote:
Has Shorten thought up a single economic policy yet? Didn't think so. Clearly Labor has no idea how to return to surplus, so they are denying there is a problem at all, despite themselves pledging a return to surplus last year. I suppose they're banking the fate of the nation on the overhyped, over capitalised NBN being some killer productivity driver.

I thought the function of an opposition leader was to repeat slogans ad nauseum?

It kinda is at this stage but at least Labor do try and justify why they're opposing things.

Btw there's so much incorrect with rusty's post I don't know where to start :lol:

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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rusty wrote:
Has Shorten thought up a single economic policy yet? Didn't think so. Clearly Labor has no idea how to return to surplus, so they are denying there is a problem at all, despite themselves pledging a return to surplus last year. I suppose they're banking the fate of the nation on the overhyped, over capitalised NBN being some killer productivity driver.


Classic rusty.

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LNP abuses position of power: Fitzgerald

This story was published: 2 hours ago June 29, 2014 9:40AM


QUEENSLAND'S ruling Liberal National Party is abusing its power through its huge, unchecked majority, the state's best known corruption fighter says.

TONY Fitzgerald, who headed the Fitzgerald inquiry into police corruption in the 1980s, has launched a scathing attack on the LNP government in the wake of several controversies.
Mr Fitzgerald said he was reluctant to comment on the ongoing "Queensland saga", but released a short statement saying he didn't expect voters to tolerate "destructive populism of an irresponsible government for long" and wanted to regain his anonymity and privacy in retirement.
"The LNP's first term in office has confirmed the critical importance of adequate checks and balances," Mr Fitzgerald said in the statement.
"The government has already flaunted its disdain for democracy and good governance by attacks on the judiciary and judicial independence, emasculation of the state's anti-corruption commission and interference with the electoral system."
He also accused the government of pursuing self-interest, favouring its supporters and passing "irrational, counter-productive and sometimes invalid" criminal laws.
Mr Fitzgerald has already been vocal in his opposition to the state's controversial anti-bikie legislation.
He said Queensland was extremely vulnerable to the misuse and abuse of power, given a lack of constitutional limits on the state's single house of parliament.
Without an effective parliamentary opposition, the checks and balances needed for democracy were missing, Mr Fitzgerald said.
"Queensland's future is a matter for its voters," he said.
"At the next state election, they will simply need to decide which party will do the least long-term damage."
Mr Fitzgerald also blamed News Corp publications like The Courier-Mail for helping the LNP outside parliament.
"News Corporation publications, which dominate the local print media, consistently publish biased reports which favour the government," he said.
Originally published as LNP abuses position of power: Fitzgerald

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/lnp-abuses-position-of-power-fitzgerald/story-e6frfku9-1226970815887
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Christmas Island staff on standby

This story was published: 40 minutes ago June 29, 2014 11:13AM

STAFF on Christmas Island are on standby for the possible arrival of a boatload of asylum seekers, a Labor MP says.

THE federal government is not confirming reports that a boat carrying 153 Tamil asylum seekers, apparently including sick children, is about 170 nautical miles off Christmas Island in high seas.
Reports have also emerged that a second boat has been intercepted by Australian Customs vessel Triton near Christmas Island.
Labor's Alannah MacTiernan was visiting the island on a personal trip on Friday night and saw an "enormous amount" of maritime activity.
She was later informed by staff two boats were offshore.
"They had gone out and intercepted people and they had loaded up people on the navy or border protection vessels, and brought [them] back onto Christmas Island waters," Ms MacTiernan told AAP on Sunday.
Staff began preparing for the arrival as they waited for official word on the eventual destination.
"They hadn't had final instructions that the people would be coming to Christmas Island," Ms MacTiernan said.
If the boat reaches Christmas Island, it will be the first asylum-seeker vessel to reach Australian shores in six months.
Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has refused to confirm the reports, saying on Saturday there were no significant incidents at sea.
Labor immigration spokesman Richard Marles accused Mr Morrison of going into hiding on the matter.
The public had a right to know what was happening, he said.
"Day after day he proclaimed his political scoreboard by beating his chest on the good days," Mr Marles told Sky News on Sunday.
"Now he goes out and trumpets secrecy. It simply isn't good enough."
Ms MacTiernan also tweeted on Sunday morning: "Back in Perth. Lack of official info absurd - the secret squirrel thing overplayed big time."
Originally published as Christmas Island staff on standby


http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/christmas-island-staff-on-standby/story-e6frfku9-1226970939527

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LNP abuses position of power: Fitzgerald

This story was published: 2 hours ago June 29, 2014 9:40AM


QUEENSLAND'S ruling Liberal National Party is abusing its power through its huge, unchecked majority, the state's best known corruption fighter says.

TONY Fitzgerald, who headed the Fitzgerald inquiry into police corruption in the 1980s, has launched a scathing attack on the LNP government in the wake of several controversies.
Mr Fitzgerald said he was reluctant to comment on the ongoing "Queensland saga", but released a short statement saying he didn't expect voters to tolerate "destructive populism of an irresponsible government for long" and wanted to regain his anonymity and privacy in retirement.
"The LNP's first term in office has confirmed the critical importance of adequate checks and balances," Mr Fitzgerald said in the statement.
"The government has already flaunted its disdain for democracy and good governance by attacks on the judiciary and judicial independence, emasculation of the state's anti-corruption commission and interference with the electoral system."
He also accused the government of pursuing self-interest, favouring its supporters and passing "irrational, counter-productive and sometimes invalid" criminal laws.
Mr Fitzgerald has already been vocal in his opposition to the state's controversial anti-bikie legislation.
He said Queensland was extremely vulnerable to the misuse and abuse of power, given a lack of constitutional limits on the state's single house of parliament.
Without an effective parliamentary opposition, the checks and balances needed for democracy were missing, Mr Fitzgerald said.
"Queensland's future is a matter for its voters," he said.
"At the next state election, they will simply need to decide which party will do the least long-term damage."
Mr Fitzgerald also blamed News Corp publications like The Courier-Mail for helping the LNP outside parliament.
"News Corporation publications, which dominate the local print media, consistently publish biased reports which favour the government," he said.
Originally published as LNP abuses position of power: Fitzgerald

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/lnp-abuses-position-of-power-fitzgerald/story-e6frfku9-1226970815887

Seriously the qld government reeks of sir joh mkII
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New Work for the dole programme to be implemented tomorrow, so if you're 18-30 unemployed and 12 months on a benefit (it does not matter that you were studying during this time or not) you will be required to commence Work for the Dole for 30 per fortnight for the next 6 months.

Now all in all not a bad thing, however there are no guidelines set out for JSA Providers, no fact sheets developed and no information handed down to those who will have to enforce it to actually explain it to everyone tomorrow.
So if you're living in Outer Western Sydney, Nepean Blue Mountains, Hawksbrury, Fairfield, Liverpool regions (just a few of the 18) nation wide that will be implementing this new policy be sure to not blame your JSA Provider, it is Abbott government who changed the rules and moved the bar.

There is no word on exactly what can be provided in the Work for the dole to actually assist a Young Person to getting a Job but once something is released i'll let you know.
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It would make more sense to put people into community roles with traineeships instead of just making them arbitrarily work.
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We used to make fun of the yanks for dubya . We got our comeuppance
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Tony rustling all sorts of jimmies :lol:
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He must have forgotten about that court case back in 92.

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China blasts ‘appalling and insensible’ Tony Abbott for showing admiration for Japan and its wartime aggression

IF Prime Minister Tony Abbott thought his summit with Japanese leader Shinzo Abe would pass unnoticed in Beijing then he had better think again.

The Xinhua news agency, the state-run press agency of the People’s Republic of China, has launched a scathing attack on Mr Abbott accusing him of crossing the “moral bottom line” with his overtures to Mr Abe.

It described Mr Abbott as “appalling and insensible” for showing such admiration for Japan’s wartime aggression.

More than 20 million Chinese perished at the hands of Japanese troops in the lead up to and during the war.

Xinhua’s Canberra correspondent quoted Mr Abbott’s speech to a special joint sitting of Parliament.

“We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task although we disagreed with what they did. Perhaps we grasped, even then, that with a change of heart the fiercest of opponents could be the best of friends,” the prime minister said.

The correspondent said that Mr Abbott “probably wasn’t aware that the Japanese troops possessed other “skills”, skills to loot, to rape, to torture and to kill”.
“All these had been committed under the name of ‘honour’ almost 70 years ago,” Xinhua said.

“By making such a comment, Abbott showed how insensible he is towards people in China and other countries who had suffered greatly as a result of the ‘advanced’ war skills of Japanese troops and their sense of honour during their aggression.


“It also makes people wonder how far Australia under his leadership would go to support Japan.”

The highly critical comments must have been sanctioned by the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party leadership.

Xinhua also attacked Abe’s plan to alter the nation’s pacifist constitution and Mr Abbott’s support for the move.

“While Japan has earned the reputation of a good international citizen, how much does it owe to its pacifist constitution, of which Abe and his cabinet are trying to change by reinterpreting its key article,” the agency said.

“Abbott, under fire for his unpopular budget, must have felt attached to Abe, who is also trying to push forward structural reforms in Japan.”


Xinhua also warned that personal favours should never be put ahead of national interests.

“Nor should it go under a moral bottom line.”

The attack by Xinhua is unprecedented from a nation that rarely ventures publicly into the internal affairs of another country.

Such is the level of feeling in Beijing against Japan that it approved a ferocious written attack that would never be tolerated inside China itself.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/china-blasts-appalling-and-insensible-tony-abbott-for-showing-admiration-for-japan-and-its-wartime-aggression/story-fnda1bsz-1226983386589
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The Japanese really did have a lot of skill an honour in beheading our POW's and forcing them on death marches. We should have dropped the second bomb on the Emperor's head in Tokyo.
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General information about Australian prisoners of the Japanese

http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/pow/general_info/


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We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task


Traitor.

The man is unfit to hold the office of Prime Minister.
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macktheknife wrote:
The Japanese really did have a lot of skill an honour in beheading our POW's and forcing them on death marches. We should have dropped the second bomb on the Emperor's head in Tokyo.

Yep, my grandfather had time for the Germans, but as far as he was concerned, the 'Japs' were just an island the world could do without.

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Yeah... But he's really not that wrong is he?
It's not politically correct, but history isn't concerned with political correctness. The country that we have today is owed to the exact reasons he stated. It really can't be denied...
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I'd rather be taken a German POW than a Jap one. The Jap soldiers committed far worse atrocities as far as I'm concerned, they even ate some of their prisoners. And you think Mengele is bad? Look up the medical "research" the Japanese undertook on Chinese civilians and POWs.
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There's a fucking reason the Japanese were forced to enact an anti-aggression policy after WWII.

Just 24 hours, please, where Tony Abbott doesn't say something disgusting or embarrassing. For the love of fucking mighty Odin.
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433 wrote:
I'd rather be taken a German POW than a Jap one. The Jap soldiers committed far worse atrocities as far as I'm concerned, they even ate some of their prisoners. And you think Mengele is bad? Look up the medical "research" the Japanese undertook on Chinese civilians and POWs.


Wouldn't have been a directive from the top down though.

-PB

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