Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

If we go in an liberate the middle-east, this time it will be different... r-right?

Fucking hell our government is stupid. The ISIS beheading videos are just bait to get the people mad, and so the government responds by sending troops in. This inevitably leads to more hatred of the West in the middle-east, and more terror groups. The cycle continues once again, and ISIS have successful duped the West into another drawn out and unwinnable war.

your right.....just newk the whole place and start from scratch.....easy ;) ;)

I know you're being sarcastic, but the middle-east is really an unsalvagable situation. We should just cut our losses, leave and let them deal with their own problems.

No. You're the extremist supporting Isis's agenda. Anyone who supports any war short of defending our or our allies sovereignty is utterly stupid and brainwashed beyond measure.

We can't stop the extremists in the Middle East but we can stop the extremists and their ilk in Australia.

This. But not really our Gumnut's call though, soon as USA was arking up we were always going to be involved.

Twitter should also be held responsible for giving these kents a soapbox to stand on and leaving the tweets/links to vids up for far longer than they should be.

-PB

Oh I see so ISIS are deliberately trying to wind up the west so the yanks will go in there with stealth bombers and blow them to a million bits? It's not like by the west being tolerant and turning the other cheek ISIS will go "oh darn, they're not dropping bombs on us how on earth are we going to execute our plans to destroy the west and take over the world now :(" it doesn't matter what we do they're going to hate us regardless, and there's always going to be extremists and the only rational way to deal with that is with force.

Yes.

Idiot.

Until they draw us into a ground war which will not work.

Bombing them is all good until the retreat into a city.

-PB

I reckon it could be pretty hard at times to get support to fight what many would see as "their own people". Bringing a foreign force into play would do wonders to galvanize people.

Edited by mcjules: 17/9/2014 10:15:26 PM

While it's true there blowback there's also another thing called momentum and if ISIS are just allowed to continue unimpeded their power and influence will only grow rather than contract. It is not logical to think the terrorist threat will go away by allowing them to freely go around indiscriminately killing people and spreading Islam by the sword, if anything it will reinforce the notion that terrorism and violence is the best best way to achieve their objectives of creating an Islamic state.

There's always the risk by getting involved you may further radicalise some disaffected people but you do this anyway by doing the nothing and allowing ISIS free reign to spread their radical ideas and western hate. It will only spur them on even further and eventually they would set up cells on western soil and use the threat of terrorism to cast down any attempt at shutting them down.

I know it's uncouth and unfashionable and all but sometimes the best way to deal with a problem is to drop bombs. Also ignoring the slaughter of ethnic and religious minorities due to the fear of a terrorist attack is a bit of a defeatist attitude.

Ah I see it's all part of a super clever grandmaster plan to take over the world, by getting bombs dropped on them. They are so cunning!

13 years since 9/11. They're clearly moving backwards.

\:d/ \:d/ yippee i'm an extremist....\:d/ \:d/ \:d/

you truly are a fucktarded buckled piece of work......best thing for you to do is top yourself....you're already half way there just finish off the job you nutjob........you are so unhinged you should be in a mental institution.....[-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

:lol:

-PB

No better way to try and win an argument than to suggest that your opponent commits suicide. :roll:

Edited by mcjules: 18/9/2014 09:33:14 AM

Bat finks shit grammar just terrorised us all.

lol.....\:d/ \:d/ \:d/

I'm know I'm pretty close to the truth about you because of the reaction it provoked.

"Extremism (represented on both sides of the political spectrum) is an ideology (particularly in politics or religion), considered to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of a society or to violate common moral standards"

You're calling for people to be killed because of what you read in your daily tabloid. Your an weak minded individual with no morals and Australia would be better off without you and your kind taking us all backwards.

the response is directly proportional to how much of a fuckstick you are, and you are a fuckstick of epic proportions.....i am not calling for anyone to be killed, i don't read tabloids, i shit bigger than you , and i am in no way weak, i am however sick of lily livered soft cocks like you....assuming you know how the world works while blah blah blahing on about stuff you have no knowledge on......go home and play with your LEGO boy......



Edited by batfink: 18/9/2014 05:51:17 PM

he angry

sarah hanson young is that you??????? ..

yes 451 is sarah hanson young

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Edited by batfink: 18/9/2014 06:36:14 PM

Everything about you is weak, from your arguements to your grammar. Australia is unfortunately diseased with weak minded people like you who have been brainwashed into believing violence is the answer.

Whoa, batfink takes big shits! :shock:


-PB

"I shit bigger than you"

Someone sig it.

:lol:

Maybe if I write my all my posts in Lego blocks you might be able to understand it a little better and form a coherent response.

well done .......

Firstly anyone who thinks that we just sit back and watch ISIS carry out murder after murder and it will all sort itself out is deluded.....

Secondly i don't support violence as the first response to any problem, i would like you to tell me what you would do if a thug burst his was into your house and started bashing your children and wife??

Thirdly anyone who thinks ALL of the terrorist issues around the world are a RESULT of the Iraq or Afghanistan war, i would encourage them to do so research and look back in history and see how long these type of activities have been taking place.

Oh and i thought it was a nice touch the little Lego flowers...

Have a great day;) ;) ;)

Why wouldn't it sort itself out?

More specifically, and it's probably going to sound like a heartless question so there's no un-blunt way to ask it, why do you care about people you don't go being murdered after they involved themselves in conflicts in The Middle East?


I would revert to my focal point training to kill whoever had entered my house and was bashing my wife and child, but this isn't a relevant situation to isolated home invasions. There are other options on the table than deliberately going halfway around the world to engage in a group of militants.


I don't think anyone is saying that terrorist issues around the world are a result of the Iraq or Afghanistan wars specifically, just that they have done nothing to decrease resentment and anti-West sentiment, and that they, as well as all other Western interventions in the Middle East, have allowed that sentiment to flourish and be exploited.

in previous posts certain people are suggesting that these terrorists are only reacting to our interference in their country and we are just creating the problem, to which i say..."what unadulterated bullshit"

have a great day...;)

And The West (tm) has never tried not intervening, so why not give it a go and see if we get a different result?


I do not, and I didn't say that I don't care about them, I'm just asking why you do.

I've already shared my thoughts on what we should do in the Middle East and why we should leave The Islamic State alone. People disagree because they seem to think that doing the same thing over and over will breed a different result if you keep doing it.


Irrelevant to Middle East violence, but you get violent in this situation because your family in your own home are in immediate threat of injury and death. So you agree that violence is not the answer in 99% of cases, and then use a 1% case to highlight your point?


You don't provide any further insight to your contradictory outburst of profanity, though, so it can be disregarded as soon as it is asserted.

Have a great day ;)