The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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So Facebook had banned all news to be posted on their sites. Even the bom , the health buereu and unions sites have been banned.   This is what people wanted yeah?
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 9:39 AM
So Facebook had banned all news to be posted on their sites. Even the bom , the health buereu and unions sites have been banned.   This is what people wanted yeah?

It's what Murdoch wanted yes.

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LIberals - master negotiators. 

FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges.

Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter?
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 9:39 AM
So Facebook had banned all news to be posted on their sites. Even the bom , the health buereu and unions sites have been banned.   This is what people wanted yeah?

Yes but google have stumped up cash for content so that's a good result.

Facebook have decided to take a stand.  Let's see how it pans out.

Yes Murdoch is a cancer but that doesn't mean google and facebook should be able to steal content. 


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 10:23 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 9:39 AM

Yes Murdoch is a cancer but that doesn't mean google and facebook should be able to steal content. 

But that's not what it's really about. It's links to their site.

Essentially the media companies are saying 'If we post something, facebook should pay...even when it just clicks to our own site'. Facebook are not literally stealing the content and reposting as their own.
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tsf - 18 Feb 2021 10:58 AM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 10:23 AM

But that's not what it's really about. It's links to their site.

Essentially the media companies are saying 'If we post something, facebook should pay...even when it just clicks to our own site'. Facebook are not literally stealing the content and reposting as their own.

I'm not so sure that's true. 


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 11:33 AM
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I'm not so sure that's true. 

Well, the point is moot now. FB just blocking it all makes it easy for them. Also watch a drop in readers for news etc now.
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Burztur - 18 Feb 2021 11:45 AM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 11:33 AM

Well, the point is moot now. FB just blocking it all makes it easy for them. Also watch a drop in readers for news etc now.

If it drives clicks towards actual news sites then that's good.  And that's just not Murdoch news sites.  There's the Guardian, Nine entertainment and others.

Facebook are tax dodging cunce.  No sympathy for them at all.


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 11:49 AM
Burztur - 18 Feb 2021 11:45 AM

If it drives clicks towards actual news sites then that's good.  And that's just not Murdoch news sites.  There's the Guardian, Nine entertainment and others.

Facebook are tax dodging cunce.  No sympathy for them at all.
You know they also blocked any sports pages. Food real estate, satire pages and more yeah.  Yes Google and Facebook need to pay taxes but why should they pay murdoch for the privilege to send people to their site??


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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 1:00 PM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 11:49 AM
You know they also blocked any sports pages. Food real estate, satire pages and more yeah.  Yes Google and Facebook need to pay taxes but why should they pay murdoch for the privilege to send people to their site??


Do you think they're hosting that content out of the goodness of their hearts?  They make money from it.  That's why they're flipping out.

You know how to get around facebook blocks?  Go direct to the owners website.  You're actually doing the owners, say the Beetoota, a favour because eyes on their site creates revenue for them. 

It's comparable to blokes here copying articles in full and posting them here.  There's an unwritten rule that you post the link and maybe the first paragraph?  Why?  Because the clicks help the author produce more content.  Posting the full article means no clicks, no eyes on the original work, no ad revenue.  

As bad as Murdoch is there is a larger principle in play here.


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 1:21 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 1:00 PM

As bad as Murdoch is there is a larger principle in play here.

Apparently public health departments, ACTU and charities are banned too.

Facebook are pure evil. Let's not absolve them here.

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tsf - 18 Feb 2021 10:09 AM
LIberals - master negotiators. 

FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges.

Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter?

What's wrong with Albo out of interest?

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 9:39 AM
So Facebook had banned all news to be posted on their sites. Even the bom , the health buereu and unions sites have been banned.   This is what people wanted yeah?

It's General Motors 2.0 from this current Government lol

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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 1:21 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 1:00 PM

Do you think they're hosting that content out of the goodness of their hearts?  They make money from it.  That's why they're flipping out.

You know how to get around facebook blocks?  Go direct to the owners website.  You're actually doing the owners, say the Beetoota, a favour because eyes on their site creates revenue for them. 

It's comparable to blokes here copying articles in full and posting them here.  There's an unwritten rule that you post the link and maybe the first paragraph?  Why?  Because the clicks help the author produce more content.  Posting the full article means no clicks, no eyes on the original work, no ad revenue.  

As bad as Murdoch is there is a larger principle in play here.

For Facebook, their model is driven off user made content. They don't need the publisher. Google needs publishers more than Facebook, hence the deal.

This is the interlinked relationship which FB and publishers have. FB is a platform which helps push more clicks/visits (while they are making ad revenue as well). I agree that FB shouldn't just copy and paste content. but I don't think they're doing that here. They might be doing the clickbait headline and the link, but not the full article. 
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sydneyfc1987 - 18 Feb 2021 2:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 1:21 PM

Apparently public health departments, ACTU and charities are banned too.

Facebook are pure evil. Let's not absolve them here.

I'm not absolving them, but why is that sky and others have been posting??
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Feb 2021 6:09 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 18 Feb 2021 2:28 PM

I'm not absolving them, but why is that sky and others have been posting??

Newscorp want the definition of "news content" to be so broad that it captures pretty much everything. That's apparently why all those pages got blocked.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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Well according to this morning's paper Scomo knew about the rape 2 years ago.  (Text messages confirming a conversation.)

Today will be a long day for that clown.


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I don't get it. One of your staff members was raped. Why aren't you investigating and what's with the cover up? 
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Burztur - 19 Feb 2021 8:28 AM
I don't get it. One of your staff members was raped. Why aren't you investigating and what's with the cover up? 

The lies just roll of his tongue.

Did you know Scomo has an empathy consultant that's paid $190k a year.  Perhaps they could have a word in his ear.


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Munrubenmuz - 18 Feb 2021 1:21 PM

Apparently public health departments, ACTU and charities are banned too.

Facebook are pure evil. Let's not absolve them here.

That's because the legislation that Murdoch had Scomo come up with was super broad and vague over what it covered to give him maximum benefit. No argument against Facebook being evil, but this particular matter is on the former party.
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paladisious - 19 Feb 2021 9:20 AM
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That's because the legislation that Murdoch had Scomo come up with was super broad and vague over what it covered to give him maximum benefit. No argument against Facebook being evil, but this particular matter is on the former party.

And yet Google was ok with it to cut a deal. 

Especially once MS came out and said they're ok with it...but that's the broader issue here: there is no viable alternative to facebook, Then add their ownership of Instagram and whatsapp, and you can see why facebook thinks it can do what it wants. 

Of course in doing this Suckerberg just provided evidence of monopolistic behavior, but again doesn't care because the ani-trust proceedings foreshadowed by the Trump administration have gone quiet, at the same time the Biden administration is stacked with ex Big Tech employees.



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Enzo Bearzot - 19 Feb 2021 9:31 AM
paladisious - 19 Feb 2021 9:20 AM

And yet Google was ok with it to cut a deal. 

Especially once MS came out and said they're ok with it...but that's the broader issue here: there is no viable alternative to facebook, Then add their ownership of Instagram and whatsapp, and you can see why facebook thinks it can do what it wants. 

Of course in doing this Suckerberg just provided evidence of monopolistic behavior, but again doesn't care because the ani-trust proceedings foreshadowed by the Trump administration have gone quiet, at the same time the Biden administration is stacked with ex Big Tech employees.



'Suckerberg', 'lefttard', 'dumbocrats'.  Are you 12?


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Another allegation comes out.  If this doesn't bring down scomo nothing will
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 20 Feb 2021 7:38 AM
Another allegation comes out.  If this doesn't bring down scomo nothing will

It won't.  The prick is covered head to toe in teflon.


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Munrubenmuz - 20 Feb 2021 9:53 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 20 Feb 2021 7:38 AM

It won't.  The prick is covered head to toe in teflon.

No there's another accusation of another staffer being raped and the pmo knew about it as well. Seriosuly the media have done a great job of ignoring it.
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Munrubenmuz - 20 Feb 2021 9:53 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 20 Feb 2021 7:38 AM

It won't.  The prick is covered head to toe in teflon.

Bringing his kids into it to try and generate a bit of sympathy/understanding was fucking low.  

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sydneyfc1987 - 20 Feb 2021 12:47 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Feb 2021 9:53 AM

Bringing his kids into it to try and generate a bit of sympathy/understanding was fucking low.  

Yep. Imagine using your family to deflect.
 Hell Ted Cruz is coping major heat for throwing his kids under the bus for the cancun trip 
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Let's hope pvo and other independent journalists keep the pressure up on scomo  as the rest of the media have been awfully quiet 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 21 Feb 2021 1:10 PM
Let's hope pvo and other independent journalists keep the pressure up on scomo  as the rest of the media have been awfully quiet 

yes, this should be scandelous position removing stuff.

The PM lying about an associate's rape in the workplace?
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