The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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bluebird2 - 22 May 2022 2:05 PM
I don't get it

Labour are promising all these things for women (such as targeting unequal pay and domestic violence) but then when it comes to sport being a woman is a choice. How can you address social issues regarding women if you can't even acknowledge what a woman is?

Effectively everything they are budgeting for is based on people's own categorisation and sense of self, and they aren't really addressing any social problems. I wonder if we can also declare ourselves as indigenous Australians to access another bucket of money we aren't entitled to either

I like the quote above about 50/50 women in parliament. That could have been accomplished a long time ago by simply asking half of politicians to change their preferred pronouns

Women's rights and pro-gender are opposites. Anybody pushing both is just pandering to popular opinion

I think the majority get it, hence the change in vote. Not going to get everyone, but hopefully enough independents to get decent reforms in. 


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bluebird2 - 22 May 2022 2:05 PM
I don't get it

It's pretty clear. Pretty much nobody gives a F%$K about this gender crap except a few wooly haired uni student groups and people selling advertising on right wing media, their presenters and conservative politicians who have been told what to talk about.
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Burztur - 22 May 2022 2:30 PM
tsf - 22 May 2022 1:59 PM

LOL. The fact that anti-corruption is painted as a partisan issue is crazy. Hope the Federal ICAC gets set up asap.

Yeah, I was sceptical that Labor would do it because although the Libs will get creamed in it, I am sure they'll have skeletons too. 

But it looks like they will do it. Get the popcorn. 
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looks like Hanson could lose her seat too. This is just the icing on the cake. 
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tsf - 22 May 2022 2:38 PM
looks like Hanson could lose her seat too. This is just the icing on the cake. 

Fuck that red headed dopey slapper.  Everyone should know that she sided with the Liberal government to abolish weekend penalty rates.  

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Not that I believe in this nonsense but maybe Enzo and Rusty need to update their mantra to:

'Go woke go control-the-country-in-a-monumental-crushing-completly-destroying-the-opposition's-political-future-and-having-the-power-to-do-what-you-want'
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mcjules - 22 May 2022 10:07 AM
tsf - 22 May 2022 9:21 AM

Morning comrades. I'm also pleased to see KK lose in Fowler. Shows how politically engaged people (in the cities at the very least) are. Parties can't take their constituents for granted and that is a wonderful outcome for democracy.


Voted teal in my electorate but it looks like she won't get up. Will stay nationals yet again. Shame but she took a very safe seat and reduced the margin so somewhat of a success.

I agree it was good to see Kenneally lose. Parachuting candidates in is garbage especially seeing they had a very good local ready to go.

Sucked in.

Shame Frydenburg lost. Would rather Mr potato Dutton got his arse handed to him.

I think all these independents is the best thing that could've happened.

More greens too. Long may it continue.


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tsf - 22 May 2022 2:35 PM
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Yeah, I was sceptical that Labor would do it because although the Libs will get creamed in it, I am sure they'll have skeletons too. 

But it looks like they will do it. Get the popcorn. 

Indes will push it over I think. 10% of Parliament is now outside the 2 majors. Good to see more diversity.
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Munrubenmuz - 22 May 2022 5:19 PM
mcjules - 22 May 2022 10:07 AM

Voted teal in my electorate but it looks like she won't get up. Will stay nationals yet again. Shame but she took a very safe seat and reduced the margin so somewhat of a success.

I agree it was good to see Kenneally lose. Parachuting candidates in is garbage especially seeing they had a very good local ready to go.

Sucked in.

Shame Frydenburg lost. Would rather Mr potato Dutton got his arse handed to him.

I think all these independents is the best thing that could've happened.

More greens too. Long may it continue.

Every seat should be marginal, with strong independent candidates. Great to see.
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tsf - 21 May 2022 8:49 PM
Where’s the ‘silent Majority’? 

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/the-quiet-australians-spoke-and-they-said-enough-20220521-p5anda.html

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Munrubenmuz - 22 May 2022 5:19 PM
mcjules - 22 May 2022 10:07 AM

Voted teal in my electorate but it looks like she won't get up. Will stay nationals yet again. Shame but she took a very safe seat and reduced the margin so somewhat of a success.

I agree it was good to see Kenneally lose. Parachuting candidates in is garbage especially seeing they had a very good local ready to go.

Sucked in.

Shame Frydenburg lost. Would rather Mr potato Dutton got his arse handed to him.

I think all these independents is the best thing that could've happened.

More greens too. Long may it continue.

You voted for the puppet Karen's Party.  Highly educated, privileged, wealthy white people who can afford to navel gaze, check their portfolio whilst sipping an almond latte having arrived in their $200,000 Tesla.  GP', Medical Specialist, CEO, Managing Director, International journalist.  Bank-rolled by the Puppet Master son of Australia's first billionaire. Winning seats where Labor and the Greens received about 10% of the votes between them. 

These people are the very embodiment of the inner city elite who holds in contempt anyone who isn't them. 

And the resident forum SJW just voted for one.  You can't make this up.

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Burztur - 22 May 2022 6:29 PM
Munrubenmuz - 22 May 2022 5:19 PM

Every seat should be marginal, with strong independent candidates. Great to see.

Yes they should.  The problem is finding wealthy white inner city privileged ones and the son of Australia's first billionaire to mastermind and bank roll the multi-million dollar campaign for the win.  Democracy in Australia 2022.

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Enzo Bearzot - 22 May 2022 7:58 PM
Burztur - 22 May 2022 6:29 PM

Yes they should.  The problem is finding wealthy white inner city privileged ones and the son of Australia's first billionaire to mastermind and bank roll the multi-million dollar campaign for the win.  Democracy in Australia 2022.

Bitter much?

You're an idiot anyway. The labour bloke in our electorate was on such a hiding to nothing he was barely visible and no hope of getting anywhere near challenging so a vote for him was a vote wasted.  Besides which why shouldn't I vote for a smart, independent woman who has achieved far more in her working life than some LNP student politician or union hack parachuted into parliament.

Our candidate was a - [edit] literal brain surgeon DIRECTOR OF NURSING AND MIDWIVERY, DIRECTOR OF THE NORTH COAST CANCER INSTITUTE  and is on various boards including Mission Australia.  - Not good enough for you?

Apparently being a doctor or a managing director or a successful business woman disqualifies you from being a candidate according to you.

Do you have an approved list of vocations that are allowed to run for parliament.

Yeah so the sheila I voted for received money from climate 200. And?  I much rather them get money from there than politicians who receive money from alcohol, gambling, fossil fuels and tobacco lobbyists.

Go cry some more you flog.

Hope the LNP take Credlin's advice and lurch even further right. Learning nothing from how people actually voted this time.


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Munrubenmuz - 22 May 2022 8:38 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 22 May 2022 7:58 PM

Bitter much?

You're an idiot anyway. The labour bloke in our electorate was on such a hiding to nothing he was barely visible and no hope of getting anywhere near challenging so a vote for him was a vote wasted.  Besides which why shouldn't I vote for a smart, independent woman who has achieved far more in her working life than some LNP student politician or union hack parachuted into parliament.

Our candidate was a literal brain surgeon that ran a hospital department and is on various boards including Mission Australia. Not good enough for you?

Apparently being a doctor or a managing director or a successful business woman disqualifies you from being a candidate according to you.

Do you have an approved list of vocations that are allowed to run for parliament.

Yeah so the sheila I voted for received money from climate 200. And?  I much rather them get money from there than politicians who receive money from alcohol, gambling, fossil fuels and tobacco lobbyists.

Go cry some more you flog.

Hope the LNP take Credlin's advice and lurch even further right. Learning nothing from how people actually voted this time.


Oh I'm sure that all of those vocations provide all the preparation they need to to understand the special interest groups that you like to march and chant and hold placards for.  And I mean that sincerely.

 Its just the other 90% of the population they don't give two fucks about.

As for the Karen's Party, it is funded by the Left's Clive Palmer, a spoiled privileged silver tail who you can bet will somehow concentrate even more of Australia's wealth for his family through his minions doing his bidding in Parliament. Oh you thought you voted for an "Independent".

You've become a predictable parody of the hypocrite SJW. 



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Enzo Bearzot - 22 May 2022 9:09 PM
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Oh I'm sure that all of those vocations provide all the preparation they need to to understand the special interest groups that you like to march and chant and hold placards for.  And I mean that sincerely.

 Its just the other 90% of the population they don't give two fucks about.

As for the Karen's Party, it is funded by the Left's Clive Palmer, a spoiled privileged silver tail who you can bet will somehow concentrate even more of Australia's wealth for his family through his minions doing his bidding in Parliament. Oh you thought you voted for an "Independent".

You've become a predictable parody of the hypocrite SJW. 



Still baffled as to whom you think should be allowed to run for parliament.

So angry.


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Burztur - 22 May 2022 2:32 PM
bluebird2 - 22 May 2022 2:05 PM

I think the majority get it, hence the change in vote. Not going to get everyone, but hopefully enough independents to get decent reforms in. 


This issue, like COVID, is just the majority of people not knowing enough to have an informed opinion so they trust those in charge to do the right thing by them

Government: Women are disadvantaged in society so we are going to target specific projects to help them get an equal footing
Man: I'm a women
Government: Lol, sure. Here's the money
Woman: What about my rights?
Government: Shut up transphobe
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bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 7:46 AM
Burztur - 22 May 2022 2:32 PM

This issue, like COVID, is just the majority of people not knowing enough to have an informed opinion so they trust those in charge to do the right thing by them

Government: Women are disadvantaged in society so we are going to target specific projects to help them get an equal footing
Man: I'm a women
Government: Lol, sure. Here's the money
Woman: What about my rights?
Government: Shut up transphobe

Geez you have a bug up your arse about this. No one except Sky after dark fuckheads and blokes like you even care.


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Don't know about you blokes but I prefer my candidates to be uneducated not like these uppity sheilas.

I mean how dare they be successful.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/the-six-giant-killer-independents-who-destroyed-scott-morrisons-government/news-story/8807346fc22ccceddb5b63898fd1e395



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Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 8:37 AM
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Geez you have a bug up your arse about this. No one except Sky after dark fuckheads and blokes like you even care.

Of course people care about it. The government literally had election promises and allocated funding around it

Government: We're going to invest money in supporting women who have proven social disadvantages in a bid to solve real world problems
Media: What's a woman?
Government: ...
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bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 9:13 AM
Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 8:37 AM

Of course people care about it. The government literally had election promises and allocated funding around it

Government: We're going to invest money in supporting women who have proven social disadvantages in a bid to solve real world problems
Media: What's a woman?
Government: ...

Who identifies as a woman only upsets people over 65, MRA's and Sky after dark hosts. The average person doesn't give much of a shit.

On a list of pressing priorities some former bloke competing against a girls in the swimming is about 99th. But keep raging. 

BTW Tell me again how well Catherine Deves did?


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Bloody well educated white candidates. Should be banned the bunch of cunce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Sharma

Early life and education

Sharma was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada in 1975. His father is a Trinidadian of Indian heritage and his mother was from Sydney.[4][5] His family moved to Turramurra in Sydney, in 1979.[4] Sharma's mother died of breast cancer, and he was raised by his father.[6]

Sharma attended secondary school at Turramurra High School in Sydney. He matriculated in 1993 with the highest possible Tertiary Entrance Rank of 100.[7]

Sharma studied a Bachelor of Arts[3] at Cambridge University between 1994 and 1997. He initially studied natural sciences but transferred to law in 1995 (his second year) and graduated in law with first class honours.[8][9][10][11] He then returned to Sydney and studied medicine at Sydney Medical School.[9] Following a year of studying medicine, he began working as a public servant for the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and completed a master's degree in International Relations through Deakin University.[8][4]

Sharma is one of seven Liberal MPs in the 46th Parliament of Australia who have obtained degrees at an Oxbridge or Ivy League university, the others being Alan Tudge, Angus Taylor, Andrew Laming, Josh Frydenberg, Greg Hunt and Paul Fletcher.[12]




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Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:25 AM
bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 9:13 AM

Who identifies as a woman only upsets people over 65, MRA's and Sky after dark hosts. The average person doesn't give much of a shit.

On a list of pressing priorities some former bloke competing against a girls in the swimming is about 99th. But keep raging. 

BTW Tell me again how well Catherine Deves did?

Of course the average person doesnt give a shit. Thats the whole point



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It's going to be very hard for non progressive thinkers or conservatives to form a government for a very long time.

- LNP have pretty much nil talent coming through
- their traditional voters are dying off - literally
- no next generation is voting for them
- they are hamstrung by being told what to do by murdoch/coal/miners/churchies
- if the independents do a half decent job most will probably get voted back in
- They are going to be at each other's throats for next year with factions inside their party on how right to go/female quotas etc
- they push issues nobody cares about and pay no attention to ones people do

You could go on all day.



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tsf - 23 May 2022 9:48 AM
It's going to be very hard for non progressive thinkers or conservatives to form a government for a very long time.

- LNP have pretty much nil talent coming through
- their traditional voters are dying off - literally
- no next generation is voting for them
- they are hamstrung by being told what to do by murdoch/coal/miners/churchies
- if the independents do a half decent job most will probably get voted back in
- They are going to be at each pother's throats for next year with factions inside their party on how right to go/female quotas etc

You could go on all day.



The biggest problem for the new government is going to be inflation which will be rampant and trying to pay down a trillion dollars worth of debt.

That will feed into the whole 'Labour can't manage the economy' narrative and the LNP will not miss the opportunity.

If I were Albo and Chalmers I'd start every single press conference with we are paying (my guess of 2% interest) $54 million a day, every day in interest to service the LNPs massive debt. ($2 million an hour every hour.)

Every single day to drive home the point. 


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bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 9:39 AM
Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:25 AM

Of course the average person doesnt give a shit. Thats the whole point



I'm struggling then to see what your point is?




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Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:58 AM
tsf - 23 May 2022 9:48 AM

The biggest problem for the new government is going to be inflation which will be rampant and trying to pay down a trillion dollars worth of debt.

That will feed into the whole 'Labour can't manage the economy' narrative and the LNP will not miss the opportunity.


yeah 100%

Liberals are already saying they've left Labor with the strongest ever economy. It's ludicrous.
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Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:58 AM
bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 9:39 AM

I'm struggling then to see what your point is?


Women don't have the same opportunities as men - average person doesnt give a shit
Women spend decades fighting for rights such as equal pay in sport
Goverments (and society) gradually takes notice and invests in womens sport
Women finally get equal pay in some sports and finally get some opportunities
Men fight for "right" to be women. Take prize money and professional spots from women - average person doesnt give a shit

Sure, the average person doesnt give a shit but its a slap in the face for those who spent decades fighting for it. Imagine being a woman from a sane country and being forced to compete against men just because sports organisations want to recognise the ideological practices of the rich and ignorant

So what issue was actually resolved?

We have money for mens sport, and money for mens (who wouldnt otherwise qualify in their field of choice) sport. Great outcome
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Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:58 AM

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Sure, the average person doesnt give a shit but its a slap in the face for those who spent decades fighting for it. Imagine being a woman from a sane country and being forced to compete against men just because sports organisations want to recognise the ideological practices of the rich and ignorant


You are bang on. 

I was coaching girl's soccer on weekend. A team of boys in make up lined up against us. This is u10s!

I am told this happened at thousands of grounds around Australia on the weekend. 

Apparently it's happening in tennis, basketball etc too. What they/re doing is, boys are training their hearts out until they're 18, then they're getting their knobs cut off and coming up that weekend against a female opponent. It's madness. 
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bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 11:01 AM
Munrubenmuz - 23 May 2022 9:58 AM

Women don't have the same opportunities as men - average person doesnt give a shit
Women spend decades fighting for rights such as equal pay in sport
Goverments (and society) gradually takes notice and invests in womens sport
Women finally get equal pay in some sports and finally get some opportunities
Men fight for "right" to be women. Take prize money and professional spots from women - average person doesnt give a shit

Sure, the average person doesnt give a shit but its a slap in the face for those who spent decades fighting for it. Imagine being a woman from a sane country and being forced to compete against men just because sports organisations want to recognise the ideological practices of the rich and ignorant

So what issue was actually resolved?

We have money for mens sport, and money for mens (who wouldnt otherwise qualify in their field of choice) sport. Great outcome

Because I'm thick can you articulate what you actually want to see happen?


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tsf - 23 May 2022 11:05 AM
bluebird2 - 23 May 2022 11:01 AM

You are bang on. 

I was coaching girl's soccer on weekend. A team of boys in make up lined up against us. This is u10s!

I am told this happened at thousands of grounds around Australia on the weekend. 

Apparently it's happening in tennis, basketball etc too. What they/re doing is, boys are training their hearts out until they're 18, then they're getting their knobs cut off and coming up that weekend against a female opponent. It's madness. 

I can tell by your attempt at humour that you dont understand the issue

How many drug cheats in sport would you think is an acceptable amount? Its not like everybody is a drug cheat right? Its not like you have a team full of drug cheats lining up to play every weekend. Surely if we had, say 100 or 200 across all disciplines then thats an acceptable amount?

A single male participating in womens sport unacceptable. And when society decides it should be acceptable then it should be for all men, not just those who want to be knob-less
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