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+x+x"THE ELECTION IS RIGGED! TRUMP MAGA!!!!! Oh wait, no it's not rigged " Ffs these alt right utter imbeciles :D Ralph Babet believed that the 2022 federal election was going to be rigged. The United Australia Party candidate changed his tune when it became likely that he would become Victoria’s newest senator.Despite a generally poor showing for a near $100 million campaign spend, UAP has eked out enough votes that — combined with preferences from the Liberal Party, which placed it second on its how-to-vote cards — Babet has been elected to Victoria’s sixth Senate spot over the Legalise Cannabis Australia Party and Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.Babet — who also goes by Deej Babet — is a Melbourne real estate agent who now holds the top Senate spot for Clive Palmer’s party while his brother, Matt, unsuccessfully contested Bruce in the House of Representatives
Soon after election night, Babet deleted his UAP campaign Facebook page, Instagram and Twitter account. However, archived posts from these accounts and other online content reveals that his views are well and truly in line with those of his right-wing populist and conspiracy promoting party leader Palmer.Beyond arguing that the election was going to be fraudulent, Babet promoted the same conspiracy theory that the World Economic Forum is carrying out a globalist takeover of the country’s sovereignty. Soon after the election was called for Labor, he posted on his account: “I would like to congratulate the prime minister of Australia on an excellent campaign. Well done Klaus Schwab.”Despite his dislike for the man responsible for creating the “billionaire circus” at Davos, Babet is a fanboy of other billionaires. At a rally earlier this month he boasted about meeting Palmer a handful of times and defended him online against reports he hadn’t paid his staff. Babet also tweeted glowingly about Elon Musk and was stoked about his proposed takeover of Twitter.He also spoke at rallies and tweeted about ending Australia’s “digital ID legislation”, another fear-mongering UAP party promise that posits that a real government scheme is actually an attempt to implement China’s social credit system here. While showing a disdain for all major parties, Babet particularly dislikes those with left politics. He called the Greens ideology “cancerous”, spoke disparagingly of “hardcore communists” on Twitter, shared a video claiming that drinking blood is a new trend on “the left”, and criticised Labor’s Dan Andrews for his handling of the pandemic.Like the UAP’s former parliamentary leader Craig Kelly, Babet is staunchly anti-lockdown, wants to end vaccine mandates and tweeted about vaccine injuries, a common argument of the anti-vaccine movement. Babet also campaigned closely with Rebekah Spelman, a fellow UAP candidate who once said she wanted to chant “Hang Dan Andrews!” at a rally, and anti-vaccine content creator Morgan C Jonas. While Palmer’s attempts to end the rule of both major parties fell flat, the spoils of his massive spend are a plum position for a conspiracy touting senator made in his own image.This article has been updated to reflect Babet’s election to the Senate.
About time real estate got representation in parliament :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGm267O04a8
man! I hate them so much. This jerk that is doing my property had an open for inspection at my house I am renting but leaving, without even asking me. I am going to use it against him.
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+x+x+x"THE ELECTION IS RIGGED! TRUMP MAGA!!!!! Oh wait, no it's not rigged " Ffs these alt right utter imbeciles :D Ralph Babet believed that the 2022 federal election was going to be rigged. The United Australia Party candidate changed his tune when it became likely that he would become Victoria’s newest senator.Despite a generally poor showing for a near $100 million campaign spend, UAP has eked out enough votes that — combined with preferences from the Liberal Party, which placed it second on its how-to-vote cards — Babet has been elected to Victoria’s sixth Senate spot over the Legalise Cannabis Australia Party and Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.Babet — who also goes by Deej Babet — is a Melbourne real estate agent who now holds the top Senate spot for Clive Palmer’s party while his brother, Matt, unsuccessfully contested Bruce in the House of Representatives
Soon after election night, Babet deleted his UAP campaign Facebook page, Instagram and Twitter account. However, archived posts from these accounts and other online content reveals that his views are well and truly in line with those of his right-wing populist and conspiracy promoting party leader Palmer.Beyond arguing that the election was going to be fraudulent, Babet promoted the same conspiracy theory that the World Economic Forum is carrying out a globalist takeover of the country’s sovereignty. Soon after the election was called for Labor, he posted on his account: “I would like to congratulate the prime minister of Australia on an excellent campaign. Well done Klaus Schwab.”Despite his dislike for the man responsible for creating the “billionaire circus” at Davos, Babet is a fanboy of other billionaires. At a rally earlier this month he boasted about meeting Palmer a handful of times and defended him online against reports he hadn’t paid his staff. Babet also tweeted glowingly about Elon Musk and was stoked about his proposed takeover of Twitter.He also spoke at rallies and tweeted about ending Australia’s “digital ID legislation”, another fear-mongering UAP party promise that posits that a real government scheme is actually an attempt to implement China’s social credit system here. While showing a disdain for all major parties, Babet particularly dislikes those with left politics. He called the Greens ideology “cancerous”, spoke disparagingly of “hardcore communists” on Twitter, shared a video claiming that drinking blood is a new trend on “the left”, and criticised Labor’s Dan Andrews for his handling of the pandemic.Like the UAP’s former parliamentary leader Craig Kelly, Babet is staunchly anti-lockdown, wants to end vaccine mandates and tweeted about vaccine injuries, a common argument of the anti-vaccine movement. Babet also campaigned closely with Rebekah Spelman, a fellow UAP candidate who once said she wanted to chant “Hang Dan Andrews!” at a rally, and anti-vaccine content creator Morgan C Jonas. While Palmer’s attempts to end the rule of both major parties fell flat, the spoils of his massive spend are a plum position for a conspiracy touting senator made in his own image.This article has been updated to reflect Babet’s election to the Senate.
About time real estate got representation in parliament :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGm267O04a8
man! I hate them so much. This jerk that is doing my property had an open for inspection at my house I am renting but leaving, without even asking me. I am going to use it against him. Pay attention to your council elections. Real estate pricks stack councils. Little fucking weasels.
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Once again, everybody eats our pie before we get a taste. Warren Buffett snaps up two Australian solar farms and big pv storage pipeline. LINK: https://reneweconomy.com.au/warren-buffett-snaps-up-two-australian-solar-farms-and-big-pv-and-storage-pipeline/
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How's the liar saying he couldn't recall if he'd been sworn in to more?
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+xHow's the liar saying he couldn't recall if he'd been sworn in to more? How dumb is he to go onto radio and say 'no just the 3'? Two hours later 'oh, wait, 5'. My son asked me if it was legal and I had to say to him no one knows because no one has ever done this before. They're still trying to work it out. The whole thing is just bizarre. Wheeled out John Howard on the 7.30 report last night and with a straight face he was all 'nothing to see here'. Bloody hell.
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Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil insists it’s too early for members of the Coalition to say Scott Morrison didn’t break any laws when he took on additional portfolios while prime minister without informing his colleagues or the Australian public. Here’s what she told Radio National a few moments ago:
I just have to respond to that unbelievable interview from Barnaby Joyce. And I really want to say this directly: stop playing this down. Peter Dutton, Barnaby Joyce, John Howard; they are playing this down as though this is some kind of run-of-the-mill scandal that occurs from time to time in Canberra. That is not what has happened here. This is an unprecedented violation of our democracy that’s been undertaken by Scott Morrison, who has accumulated for himself, personally, vast powers of ministries across the Australian government. And he did so in secret without telling his colleagues and, most importantly, without telling the Australian people.
There are moments in politics where you have to step above your political party. Peter Dutton needs to do that today. Barnaby Joyce needs to do that today. Don’t defend this man just because he’s a Liberal. He has done something that has never happened before in Australian history. And people who are attempting to say that this is normal ... they are exacerbating the problem and they are doing damage themselves.
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Thats the thing with politicians. They never break laws because they design them. They're always just codes or guidelines. Zero ramifications
Like when they expense a holiday as work, 20k - oh, it turns out I was in breach of minsterial code or was an 'oversight', I will pay it back - but we get charged,
It begs the question - has this happened before, we could completely have secret governments, and worst of all he was obviously lying about everything., For example when he said he knew nothing about Brittany Higgins accusations - obviously a lie because it turns out he was the Minister.
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The whole Scomo portfolio thing is, at best, half a days worth of media attention at best. It probably doesn't even deserve to be the lead story, but the progressive media is so determined to oust another conservative from politics , they will continue to ride it until he either resigns or the coalition forces him to go.
I personally dont give a shit that Scomo appointed himself to various ministries, in the height of the pandemic lots of strange things happened, some necessary (like giving the CMO greater powers), some unnecessary (like pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars on stimulus and pandemic payments). With all the extra power Scotty appointed himself to, it appears no great incidence of corruption or abuse of power has happened, so why is everyone so hot and bothered?
I'm 100% sure if this was a Labor politician, no one would be talking about it. In fact, I'm sure if this was Albo, whom is currently the mainstream media's favourite darling, he he would be praised to doing what was necessary to "save lives and keep people safe" during "difficult times and unforeseen circumstances". Only an incredibly brave compassionate man like Albo would take on all this extra burden of responsibility. Conservative politicians are held to different narratives and standards than their progressive counterparts.
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+x[quote]Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil insists it’s too early for members of the Coalition to say Scott Morrison didn’t break any laws when he took on additional portfolios while prime minister without informing his colleagues or the Australian public.
Here’s what she told Radio National a few moments ago:
I just have to respond to that unbelievable interview from Barnaby Joyce. And I really want to say this directly: stop playing this down. Peter Dutton, Barnaby Joyce, John Howard; they are playing this down as though this is some kind of run-of-the-mill scandal that occurs from time to time in Canberra. That is not what has happened here. This is an unprecedented violation of our democracy that’s been undertaken by Scott Morrison, who has accumulated for himself, personally, vast powers of ministries across the Australian government. And he did so in secret without telling his colleagues and, most importantly, without telling the Australian people.
There are moments in politics where you have to step above your political party. Peter Dutton needs to do that today. Barnaby Joyce needs to do that today. Don’t defend this man just because he’s a Liberal. He has done something that has never happened before in Australian history. And people who are attempting to say that this is normal ... they are exacerbating the problem and they are doing damage themselves.
Naturally Muz, naturally... Labor are going to beat this up to make the Coalition look as bad as possible, and themselves the party of integrity by comparison. That's what political parties do Muz. This shouldn't surprise you. Heres what Minister Claire Oneill would've said if it were Albo who was caught out hoarding ministerial powers I just have to respond to that unbelievable interview from Barnaby Joyce. And I really want to say this directly: stop beating this up. Peter Dutton, Barnaby Joyce, John Howard; they are beating this up as though this is some kind of Watergate scandal that rarely occurs in Canberra. That is not what has happened here. This is an unprecedented defence of our democracy during unprecedented times, that’s been undertaken by Anthony Albanese, who has accumulated for himself, vast burden of responsibility of ministries across the Australian government, at great personal cost. And he did so with great responsibility, without unnecessarily alarming the Australian people during arguably the most alarming period in Australia’s history.
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Scomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone?
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-18/scott-morrison-accused-of-breaching-coalition-agreement/101345094Nationals Senate leader Bridget McKenzie told ABC Radio his explanation made no sense. "I struggle to understand and appreciate the need to keep these appointments secret — it goes against everything that underpins our system of government, of transparency and accountability," Senator McKenzie said. "There are many more questions that remain on the table
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+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? Probably more of a faux pas rather than some great political atrocity. Its at its worst strange, bizarre, but not as strange and bizarre as the mass media’s hysterical response to this non issue. You have to consider whether Scomo appointed himself to these positions with malicious intent, and the likely answer to that question is no. Im absolutely certain if it was Labor no on would really bat an eye lid. Lets must call this is for what it is, another media pile on, no different to Scomo going on holiday or Barnaby rooting his secretary.
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+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time.
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+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers?
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+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? The other thing that is dumb is he keeps saying it was for 'just in case'. But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. Also aren't there deputy ministers or 2ICs that can make decisions. The whole thing is just weird.
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+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? All politicians do that, even when telling the truth. In fact if we are asked the same question over and over, and give slightly different answers each time, or answer in a different way, or add new details, then it can feed a narrative that one is "shifting the story and not giving straight answers". Anyway its time to move on kids. There are WAAAAY more important things affecting peoples lives than Scomo bolstering his CV.
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+x+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? The other thing that is dumb is he keeps saying it was for 'just in case'. But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. Also aren't there deputy ministers or 2ICs that can make decisions. The whole thing is just weird. Yes, it was weird, a week ago. Its way more weird that people are still talking about this. Scomo was yesterday's man, he isn't a threat to the Labor party anymore, its gone beyond news reporting in the national interest, and is now just another pile on.
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+x+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. What if the GG came down with covid at the same time? The media would have a field day accusing Scomo of being ill prepared to handle the pandemic. They would say things like "why didn't have appoint someone else or himself to key vital roles in government to ensure continuity?" Anyway, enough of this bullshit. This was last weeks news.
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+x+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? The other thing that is dumb is he keeps saying it was for 'just in case'. But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. Also aren't there deputy ministers or 2ICs that can make decisions. The whole thing is just weird. I am telling you now, more will come out down the track.
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+x+x+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? The other thing that is dumb is he keeps saying it was for 'just in case'. But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. Also aren't there deputy ministers or 2ICs that can make decisions. The whole thing is just weird. its gone beyond news reporting in the national interest, That on the surface a politician secretly tried to assume total control with no real explanation is fine with you, we know that - you are a Putin fan boy,. But for a lot it it is national interest. At minimum the constitution or laws must be amended to prevent it happening again - if it was legal, or the reasoning behind it
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+x+x+x+x+x+xScomo did what Scomo did for whatever reasons Scomo thought. My only question was why didn't he tell anyone? It's either creepy or fraudulent. He didn't answer the question definitively as to whether any financial decisions were made by him in regards to those portfolio's he held at the time. That's the thing - if there was nothing sinister - why has he shifted his story multiple times and not given straight answers? The other thing that is dumb is he keeps saying it was for 'just in case'. But surely if say Cormann got hit by a bus or came down with covid Scomo could just wander over to the GG and say 'swear me in'. Also aren't there deputy ministers or 2ICs that can make decisions. The whole thing is just weird. its gone beyond news reporting in the national interest, That on the surface a politician secretly tried to assume total control with no real explanation is fine with you, we know that - you are a Putin fan boy,. But for a lot it it is national interest. At minimum the constitution or laws must be amended to prevent it happening again - if it was legal, or the reasoning behind it He didn’t assume total control. He nominally appointed himself to five minister positions , but otherwise assumed or exercised no real influence or authority. It’s not like he had those ministers taken away and shot and declared himself supreme leader. He has given his reasons and context, you can either choose to believe (or not believe) and move onto real issues that actually affect people, or you can choose to continue to speculate on his comments and motivations ad nauseum. At the end of the day he didn’t do anything illegal, he isn’t going to resign, he isn’t going to be pushed , so all this blustering by the media, Labor and progressives is just wasting time. At worst what he did was unconventional, and if you are so upset by something unconventional then lobby the current PM to close the loophole. However my guess is they may not do so on the basis that one day the circumstances may arise that a sitting PM may have to swear himself into various ministries to ensure continuity of government, such as during a war, or pandemic. Just move on and stop acting like fucking babies.
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How do you know what authority he exercised? You don’t.
Some ministers in Australia have quite worrying executive powers, even able to override court decisions as been shown recently.
You do not have a clue what he did or didn’t do, like I don’t. So therefore you have no absolute clue what you are talking about.
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You also don’t seem to comprehend the fact that he could do this could have dire ramifications for our democracy if in the wrong hands.
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+xHow do you know what authority he exercised? You don’t.
Some ministers in Australia have quite worrying executive powers, even able to override court decisions as been shown recently.
You do not have a clue what he did or didn’t do, like I don’t. So therefore you have no absolute clue what you are talking about. lol thats not how it works doofus. The absence of evidence for a crime or wrongdoing that may or may not have happened doesnt constitute some sort of constitutional, legal or ethical crisis. We dont convict people in this country based on mere, and indeed petty, conjecture or speculation. If you have something to add other than “bu-bu-but some ministers have executive pu-pu-powers” then feel free to air it, otherwise shut the fuck up.😂
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+xYou also don’t seem to comprehend the fact that he could do this could have dire ramifications for our democracy if in the wrong hands. Simple solution, petition the current PM to close the loophole then. Problem solved.
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+x+xHow do you know what authority he exercised? You don’t.
Some ministers in Australia have quite worrying executive powers, even able to override court decisions as been shown recently.
You do not have a clue what he did or didn’t do, like I don’t. So therefore you have no absolute clue what you are talking about. lol thats not how it works doofus. The absence of evidence for a crime or wrongdoing that may or may not have happened doesnt constitute some sort of constitutional, legal or ethical crisis. We dont convict people in this country based on mere, and indeed petty, conjecture or speculation. If you have something to add other than “bu-bu-but some ministers have executive pu-pu-powers” then feel free to air it, otherwise shut the fuck up.😂
I honestly don’t know what you’re now talking about. So that now makes two of us in this convo who don’t know what you’re talking about.
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