never had a 9-5 job in my life.........;) ;)

doesn't surprise me you have given up....typical of the apathetic attitude....lol

what rubbish...... i should have chosen my words better......i have indeed been out of work....but i didn't head to the dole office i went and found ANY type of work and did whatever was required to pay my mortgage and feed my family.....i didn't just cop out and ride the system.....i lived off my savings until i got another job........

funny how you people keep carrying on about Australia's economy is so strong and un employment figures are so low, however there are so many people on welfare who can't get a job.....don't you find that strange????????


and once more for the dummies, i am referring to the scammers and bludgers who are in the system and play it for what it's worth.......i don't have an issue with the people who are genuinely in need...


and once more for the dummies, i am referring to the scammers and bludgers who are in the system and play it for what it's worth.......i don't have an issue with the people who are genuinely in need...


and once more for the dummies, i am referring to the scammers and bludgers who are in the system and play it for what it's worth.......i don't have an issue with the people who are genuinely in need...



i also note that none of you are serious enough to mention how many people you are aware of that are rorting the system..........i know of at least 5......

yeah i have had to life off $ 123.76 a fortnight.......

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

And again you've completely ignored ... my post where I demanded you explain ........ how the system discerns between someone........................ who's scamming and someone who's genuinely in need.

/batfink style post

pretty simple mate..........a person who could get a job if they tried and gave a fuck, sits at home and does fuck all while collecting the dole........very simple.....

do you understand or do you want me to speak s l o w e r for you???????

well clearly you are stupid.......i said scammers...people who are receiving payments and make no effort to be employed.......simple

is it that hard for you to understand.....i made it very clear......no problem with those in need , just those who are taking the piss...........

And who determines whether they're "capable" of getting a job? What you're saying is that if I'm out applying for jobs, going for interviews and keep getting rejected, I don't deserve the dole.

yes first hand knowledge is being an employer and watching people who come for interviews.....some clearly are not interested in getting the job......many don't even show up for the interview, when i call them and ask them did you forget you had an interview they say nope, i say ok did you find a job "nope", so i finish with thanks for wasting my time...... and the days of where centrelink rang me as an employer and asked me if certain people came for an interview with my company are over.....

That's second hand knowledge. You're speculating as to their interests and you've got no ACTUAL experience of centrelink or relative organisations to speak of.

batfink, shut up. You've got no fucking idea what you're talking about.

no that's not what i'm saying................


i am saying there are obviously plenty of people on the dole who make no effort to find a job, no effort to improve their chances of finding a job even though the government offer training to do so, professional bludgers

sorry afro i respectfully disagree.......;)


it's first hand when an employer who offers a position and takes candidates for the position , then the candidate doesn't arrive for the interview, only for the candidate to advise centrelink he applied for my position so he can get his next dole payment.

oh i can only assume that you think that 100% of people on the dole genuinely can't get a job?????

[size=9]THIS IS NOT FIRST HAND INFORMATION[/size]

Yeeeeeeeeeeah if you could quote where I said that, that'd be great.

Edited by afromanGT: 3/6/2013 03:16:08 PM

[size=9]THIS IS NOT FIRST HAND INFORMATION[/size]


it is when centrelink ring me and ask if this guy had made an interview for the position like he told them he had attended......

it used to be very common for me to get calls from centrelink verifying interviews...these days i get one in a blue moon

same for if you could show me where i quoted th;) at if you fail a job interview your not entitled to the dole.........

Afro, you're doing the classic Sir Humphrey thing of drowning your opponent in semantics.

First and foremost, neither Abbott nor Turnbull has come out and said they are looking to cut benefits to the best of my knowledge.

Secondly, noone is suggesting people on dialysis will be forced into digging holes on the streets. Having said that, the country could definitely do with a review of the bludgers scamming the system.

Make a public example of a few of them and it'll make the rest think twice about it.

I think this is pretty reasonable - who is treated as a scammer in your book?

no one at this stage...it's open slather, help yourself to the taxpayers wallet and sit at home playing playstation

Are you deliberately avoiding the question? What would be a "scammer" in your books?

Batfink's book is irrelevant, the government determines the definition of a scammer.

Look, until he actually makes the distinction, it's just posturing.

Batfink posturing, talking about things he doesn't have the language skills to explain and commenting on things he doesn't understand? That's never happened before.

Swan likely to lose seat amid Queensland Labor despair

Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan looks set to lose his Brisbane seat of Lilley for a second time, with internal polling suggesting Labor will struggle to retain any Queensland seats north of the Brisbane River at the September 14 federal election.

The results are so dire for Labor that a ''worst case'' scenario suggests Kevin Rudd could become Labor's ''last man standing'' in Queensland, with the former prime minister the only Queensland MP who is seen as likely to retain his seat.

The Queensland polling, taken in recent weeks in Mr Swan's electorate, is believed to show that his primary vote has collapsed to just 28 per cent, compared to 41 per cent at the last election.

Mr Swan has held the seat since 1998, although at the last election his margin narrowed from 8 per cent to 3.2 per cent, with a 10 percentage point fall in his primary vote.

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A senior Labor source told Fairfax Media that on the current polling Labor was likely to lose all of its remaining seats north of the Brisbane River, blaming animosity towards Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

The regional seat of Capricornia, held by a margin of 3.7 per cent is seen as ''gone for all money''. Labor is also likely to lose the seats of Moreton, held by 1.1 per cent, Lilley, held by 3.2 per cent, and Petrie, held by 2.5 per cent.

According to the analysis, a ''best case'' scenario is that Labor retains four of its eight remaining Queensland seats, including Blair, Rankin, Oxley and Mr Rudd's seat of Griffith. Such a result would still be better than the outcome in 1996, when Mr Swan first lost his seat. Labor held just two Queensland seats that time.

The big question, according to party strategists, is whether Labor will retain the seats of Blair, Oxley and Rankin. Only Griffith is seen as safe. A ''worst case'' is that Labor is left with a single seat in Queensland.

''The best result we can hope for is (retaining) four out of eight seats,'' the source said. ''The worst is holding only one seat. Queensland does produce some big swings. In 1996 we only held two seats.''

The analysis is believed to be based on a relatively small sample taken in Mr Swan's seat. But it comes amid growing pessimism within Labor ranks about the chances of avoiding an electoral wipe-out.

Labor MP for Morton Graham Perrett said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott had stopped visiting his electorate.

''There was a time there when Tony Abbott was visiting more times than my [Liberal National Party] opponent, but he seems to have deserted Moreton,'' Mr Perrett said. ''Maybe these supposed polling results suggest why this is so.''

Labor MPs in Victoria have also warned of double digit swings. The party is seen as particularly vulnerable in seats to the east and south-east of the city, including Deakin, La Trobe and Chisholm.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/swan-likely-to-lose-seat-amid-queensland-labor-despair-20130603-2nm8a.html?

:lol::lol:

you know what!! i have had it with pathetic tards like you who have to use personal attacks to justify your own contorted opinion......if you are so fucken stupid to think everyone who is on the dole is a deserving recipient then no worries hope your tax dollars are well spent....oh wait you probably don't pay tax??!!!???


while Gillard and swan the two under acheiving tards whinge about tax receipts....when they are to blame because all their constituants are all collecting off the system...LOL....and they spend the proceeds of a tax they invented and forecast so incorrectly...LOL ...you deserve them...they are what you want...

its very simple for dumb fucks like you.....there are 1,000's upon 1000's of people who are on the dole collecting $$$$$$$$$ for nothing....they do nothing..........they don't work they don't try and they are just taking the piss......simple...... so you can ask whatever questions and ask for whatever proof you want....YOU are the person being ignorant by denying they exist.....for christ sake even the politicians admit they exist...however for some reason or another you defend them......i have not made ANY comment about taking welfare away from anyone who truly relies on it......all you fucktards decided to manipulate my comments to serve your needs......so when i am retired it will be your turn to supply tax dollars to the bludgers......and by the way the company i run and all my tax contributions are around $60,000 / month....so yeah i am passionate about people taking the piss and mishandling the hard earning funds i generate........................


oh and by the way go and fuck yourself....................\:d/ \:d/

-PB

It's bad enough that people who need financial support struggle to get it. And you think we need to cut it.

I find it a bit rich that you're calling me a 'dumb fuck', you can't even grasp basic grammar and syntax and you're trying to debate something as complicated as politics.

"boo hoo, someone got my tax dollars who didn't deserve it" Fuck off champ, what about the thousands of people who don't get your tax dollars who DO deserve it?

I find it amazing that Queensland would round on the ALP so vehemently after what Campbell Newman has done to it.

Political battlefield in Geelong

June 4, 2013

Henrietta Cook

Geelong is shaping up as a major political battleground, with the federal and state governments both claiming victory following the announcement that the national disability insurance scheme would be based in Victoria's second city.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced on Monday that the headquarters of DisabilityCare Australia would be located in Geelong, injecting $34 million a year into the district and creating about 300 new jobs.

''Geelong is undergoing some tough times,'' Ms Gillard said. ''It's exactly the right time to be bringing another source of jobs to Geelong.''

The announcement came as the city was reeling from the news that Ford would close its Geelong plant and axe 510 jobs.

Last week, the Prime Minister announced a $39 million fund - made up of $30 million from the federal government and $9 million from the state government - to help the Broadmeadows and Geelong communities cope with the Ford job losses.

The Gillard government is also trying to retain Corangamite, which it holds by just 0.4 per cent.

The state government also has its eyes set on marginal seats in the region, and hopes to seize Geelong and Bellarine from Labor at next year's state election.

Premier Denis Napthine said the decision to base DisabilityCare in Geelong would provide the community with a ''confidence boost''. ''This is a day of great joy for Geelong and, I think, Australia.''

Geelong mayor Keith Fagg said he was pleased the state and federal governments ''very much have Geelong in their focus''. He said Geelong still had a strong future in manufacturing as well as an administrative hub. ''This is a major step forward for our community. Not only will it provide hundreds of jobs and economic input directly, but the flow-on effects will be that Geelong will be put in the spotlight nationally and internationally as a centre of excellence for disability care.''



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/political-battlefield-in-geelong-20130603-2nm6r.html#ixzz2V9hkBWzC