Newstart allowance wouldn't even cover my rent and bills for the month.

It's your own fault you were born poor, didn't ya know?

"Poor people should just work harder." - Gina Reinhart.

I think we're at the point where we can stop worrying about labor policy.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with being poor.....here we are in one of the best countries in the world, with low unemployment rates, and employers struggling to get good staff, the government spending millions helping people get trained and employable and we have record welfare....LOL...:d :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :d :d

are you that fucken naive that you think it's that hard to get a job.....there are job everywhere for the taking....!!!!!

difference is in the old days you did anything to put bread and butter on the table and feed your'e family and make ends meet....these days in the era of entitlement if there isn't a job advertised for your'e chosen field you throw your'e hands in the air and say i can't get a job and go and get welfare, and then register for child care rebates, and child endowment and countless other taxpayer wasting scheme's, so after working 35 years in the workforce, many of them without superannuation,sick leave or any on the redundancy or entitlemnets why should my tax $$$$ look after the generation of soft cocks that are useless and lazy and don't know what it means to get a fair days pay for a fair days labour??????

Yeah, except these industries of need aren't entry level positions. They're positions where you have to do years of training like Medecine, et al. Not the kind of industry you want to be recruiting people from the centrelink office for.

No offence but I'm not sure, in fact I am sure, you don't have a great deal of first hand knowledge on the subject.

Who said anything about cutting welfare?

Can someone please post the 'old man shouts at cloud' pic for me in a batfink Quote? I'm on my phone.

Cheers.

That's just lazy :P

Cut welfare?

Okay. How about we start with corporate welfare and negative gearing.

Batfink reminds me of a guy I knew ,blamed every one for his misfortunes. Can't get a job blame the government or immigrants. Sad he is a typical right wing person who believes everything that the right says without questioning if its true or not .

Also batfink ,my mother in law in on welfare ,had no choice as she had kidney failure ,she wants to work but centrelink can't let her as she has to be on dialiysis . So tell me would you cut her welfare ?

;) pretty sure i do actually........but hey let's keep aspiring to mediocrity......;)

:-k ummm that's not welfare schmuck it's a tax incentive......

your so off the mark it's not funny........i have never been unemployed in my life, when there was no work in my trade as an electrician i drove semi trailers, brickies labourer, mowed lawns,worked in engineering firms as a general hand.......did anything before sticking my hand out looking for a free ride....simple.....

Really? I know a lot of people who've been put out of work in my neck of the woods and they've all got families to feed so it's not like they're not looking or not willing to work for it. These men are fathers, some of their children are disabled for heaven's sake (I meet a lot of families at special needs schools). To call these people "soft cocks" is simply outright disgraceful. You're out of touch and entirely out of compassion.

First hand knowledge hey, so you work in employment services, social services or education....?

if you half witted gimps could read you would see that i was talking about the bludgers and people rorting the system.......Your mother in law is exactly the people who should be getting support and probably more $$$$ than she is.....it's the professional bludgers who are screwing it for the genuine people who face hardship.......

if you be honest with yourselves i bet everyone of you would know a couple of people who are on the welfare system and could have ago instead of being a scab.......i certainly do and it shits me to tears.......

you don't have to work is those specific industries to have first hand knowledge......

So have you ever paid an employee 'cash in hand' or accepted a 'cash in hand' payment?

once again read the bit in bold above.................


not cutting welfare for everyone, just to the scammers,bludgers and people rorting the system........

it's not that hard.....really it isnt......](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Your distinction between the hardcore unemployed and ordinary people out of luck is very, very light.

Your distinction between the hardcore unemployed and ordinary people out of luck is very, very light.

[size=9]batfink wrote:


i totally agree with cutting welfare....way to many people who are not genuinely in need and who are rorting the system....[/size]



really i thought it was pretty obvious..........pretty straight forward;)

Edited by batfink: 3/6/2013 07:48:30 AM

Edited by batfink: 3/6/2013 07:49:31 AM

Set a criteria for the hardcore unemployed and what you'd plan to do to the social welfare of people who meet that criteria.

I think this describes the thread at the moment.

This.

Like to pretend he's all for barracking for a better nation regardless of party but blindly pushes Libs at any chance.

Then red bolds the fuck out of text to try and make a point that isn't valid.

I gave up tbh.

-PB

So you're in NO WAY qualified to talk about welfare. And subsequently, have no way of discerning who "the scammers,bludgers and people rorting the system" are.

You've NEVER had to live off $450 a fortnight. And to keep repeating yourself like it gives your absurdly textbook liberal party agenda any more weight is just ridiculous.