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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 11:24 AM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 11:02 AM

If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas.

Sources:
https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e
"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " 

Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that.

"Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies."

No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+.

Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/
 
"Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. "

Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda).

Source: 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684


All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion.

When one company goes offshore, they will say Trump is outsourcing jobs to China. They seem to forget or ignore the tens of companies coming back onshore, and that today the USA has the lowest unemployment rate in the OECD and the fastest growing economy in the OECD.

And as an Israeli citizen, I take issue with my country violating International law. that is your narrative. Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset.

Once again, Islam is the protected cow, but the reality is different. Give me Israel anyday. In fact, I will be going to Jerusalem in 3 months from now. I can't wait.

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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 12:38 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 11:24 AM

All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion.


There are examples. Read the articles.
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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 12:38 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 11:24 AM

And as an Israeli citizen, I take issue with my country violating International law. that is your narrative. Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset.

Once again, Islam is the protected cow, but the reality is different. Give me Israel anyday. In fact, I will be going to Jerusalem in 3 months from now. I can't wait.

Lol you're not even Israeli.

Do you need a safe space because you're offended that someone is speaking out about Israel's crimes. I thought you right wingers were against that?

Israel is literally taking Palestinian land and setting up illegal settlements there. This is against international law, even the UN said so. 

Source: https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

Israel is also doing an apartheid against Palestinians too. Again a horrific action by the Israeli government and obviously a violation of international law.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-makdisi-netanyahu-election-palestinians-apartheid-20190410-story.html

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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 12:38 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 11:24 AM

Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset.


Imagine actually believing that.
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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 12:46 PM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 12:38 PM


There are examples. Read the articles.

I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture.

It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news


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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 1:03 PM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 12:38 PM

Imagine actually believing that.

I do believe that. I lived it.

Israel is a free society, a democratic country where all people enjoy rights and representation.

For centuries we endured horrendous persecution will the Brits took over and Israel was formed after WW2

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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 1:09 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 1:03 PM


Israel is a free society, a democratic country where all people enjoy rights and representation.



Israel is literally doing an apartheid.
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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 1:08 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 12:46 PM

I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture.

It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news


Stop deflecting. 

You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever.
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People still haven't learnt lol

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paulbagzFC - 27 Apr 2019 2:25 PM
People still haven't learnt lol

-PB

About Aikhmerouge being a troll?

Yeah I know he’s a troll, I just wanted to make him look stupid.
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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 2:41 PM
paulbagzFC - 27 Apr 2019 2:25 PM

About Aikhmerouge being a troll?

Yeah I know he’s a troll, I just wanted to make him look stupid.

You are only making yourself look stupid.

Firstly, I'm not a South Australian or live in Adelaide. There goes your fantasy about linking me to other members.

Secondly, I am a very open book, and quite willing to send the forum owner my real world ID and address on where I live because I am fine with that.

Thirdly, it really is none of your business.

Apart from that you don't even know what you are talking about. All you got in your arsenal is that Trump looks after the top 1% when that isn't the case. the vast majority of businesses that benefited were small to medium enterprise, who employed more staff and therefore there was another benefit to working class people and the unemployed as well.



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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 1:18 PM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 1:09 PM

Israel is literally doing an apartheid.

No it isn't. Jerusalem is a melting pot.

There is no Apartheid in Israel. That is you conflating the issue once again. Every citizen can vote in Israel and every person has their representatives in the Knesset.

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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 1:22 PM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 1:08 PM

Stop deflecting. 

You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever.

You did not provide any statistics.

You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole.

BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract.

You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men.

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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 3:04 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 1:22 PM

You did not provide any statistics.

You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole.

BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract.

You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men.

Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments.
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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 3:14 PM
mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 3:04 PM

Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments.

You provided a source with big multinationals employing people overseas, not exporting jobs on a wholesale scale.

yes, these businesses are multinational and employ people in many countries because they actually export their products and services to those countries.

HP, employ people all over the world, plus tens of thousands of people in the USA.

You are conflating the facts with something that you are trying to fit into a particular narrative against Trump.

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mouflonrouge - 27 Apr 2019 3:36 PM
sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 3:14 PM

You provided a source with big multinationals employing people overseas, not exporting jobs on a wholesale scale.

yes, these businesses are multinational and employ people in many countries because they actually export their products and services to those countries.

HP, employ people all over the world, plus tens of thousands of people in the USA.

You are conflating the facts with something that you are trying to fit into a particular narrative against Trump.

No, all of your claims against me are complete horseshit and are completely untrue. It’s a disingenuous attempt to deflect from the topic at hand as you don’t have a counter to any of my arguments.

The sources literally had the number of jobs outsourced under Trump in 2017 (93000) which is an increase from the amount of jobs outsourced. Under Obama', the average of amount jobs outsourced in the last 5 years of his Presidency was 87,500.

I’m not going to bother replying to you as you’re not arguing in good faith.
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sub007 - 27 Apr 2019 3:56 PM
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No, all of your claims against me are complete horseshit and are completely untrue.

It’s a disingenuous attempt to deflect from the topic at hand as you don’t have a counter to any of my arguments.

I’m not going to bother replying to you as you’re not arguing in good faith.

No its not. I am trying to tell yoiu what is factual, it has nothing to do with anything personal against you or anyone else.

Yopu posted some nonsense that Trump is exporting record number of jobs overseas and cited some big US Multinational companies like Honeywell, HP and Lockheed Martin.

there are record jobs overseas because business for them is turning out to be on the up. they are not exporting jobs overseas but have billions worth of contracts overseas and need to support those contracts with staff.

Those very same companies employ the vast majority of people in the USA.

This is completely separate to let's say a clothing company or shoe company like Nike using slave labor in Asia to manufacture their entire product range and then sell in western Economies for a 10000% mark up.

The business you mentioned are NOT an example of exporting work overseas. Lockheed Martin for instance has people in Australia to support the F-35 contract for the ADF.

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So trump admitted on Sean hanitys  show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because he felt a hunch.  
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 27 Apr 2019 8:45 PM
So trump admitted on Sean hanitys  show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because he felt a hunch.  

Can't blame him considering all the claims against him colluding with Russia, which were all false. I still haven't heard a thing from the other side admitting they made all that shit up. No class at all. 

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Anti bullfighting party set to have a Spanish breakthrough.  Yes its tradition  but  people are kinda finding  it off putting since you have to kill the bull
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 27 Apr 2019 8:45 PM
So trump admitted on Sean hanitys  show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because whe felt a hunch.  

He said it to make his point. And the point was well made. 

He was was falsely accused for the last 3 years that he colluded with Russia. 

So so he can make all the hunches he likes after that debacle. 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 27 Apr 2019 9:20 PM
Anti bullfighting party set to have a Spanish breakthrough.  Yes its tradition  but  people are kinda finding  it off putting since you have to kill the bull

But they eat the meat afterwards.

no different to eating a steak. 

Man i’m eating lots of meat tomorrow because after I commune with God at 2:30 am my lent is over. 47 days as a vegan. 
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ISIS Adds Few Violent White Supremacists In Bid To Get U.S. To Rescind Terrorist Designation

IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. 

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 27 Apr 2019 11:49 PM

ISIS Adds Few Violent White Supremacists In Bid To Get U.S. To Rescind Terrorist Designation

IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. 

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This has to be a joke right?

And you are taking such news as serious?

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mouflonrouge - 28 Apr 2019 3:25 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 27 Apr 2019 11:49 PM

This has to be a joke right?

And you are taking such news as serious?

 Yep there it is .figure you argue about this.  Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything.
 I'm done with you . 





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Police have arrested a man in San Diego.  A Shooting  has occurred near a synapse 

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 28 Apr 2019 6:17 AM
mouflonrouge - 28 Apr 2019 3:25 AM

 Yep there it is .figure you argue about this.  Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything.
 I'm done with you . 





Argue?

I just said it was a joke. I'm glad you agree.

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mouflonrouge - 28 Apr 2019 9:08 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 28 Apr 2019 6:17 AM

Argue?

I just said it was a joke. I'm glad you agree.

😂 I'm just as confused as you, you pretty much just asked if something that was a joke, was in fact a joke 😂
You're doomed in this forum, you can't say anything that's right anymore, or all any questions 😂
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robstazzz - 28 Apr 2019 11:30 AM
mouflonrouge - 28 Apr 2019 9:08 AM

😂 I'm just as confused as you, you pretty much just asked if something that was a joke, was in fact a joke 😂
You're doomed in this forum, you can't say anything that's right anymore, or all any questions 😂

I know mate. 

Like pushing shit uphill! 
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