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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. When one company goes offshore, they will say Trump is outsourcing jobs to China. They seem to forget or ignore the tens of companies coming back onshore, and that today the USA has the lowest unemployment rate in the OECD and the fastest growing economy in the OECD. And as an Israeli citizen, I take issue with my country violating International law. that is your narrative. Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Once again, Islam is the protected cow, but the reality is different. Give me Israel anyday. In fact, I will be going to Jerusalem in 3 months from now. I can't wait.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSo who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 And as an Israeli citizen, I take issue with my country violating International law. that is your narrative. Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Once again, Islam is the protected cow, but the reality is different. Give me Israel anyday. In fact, I will be going to Jerusalem in 3 months from now. I can't wait. Lol you're not even Israeli. Do you need a safe space because you're offended that someone is speaking out about Israel's crimes. I thought you right wingers were against that? Israel is literally taking Palestinian land and setting up illegal settlements there. This is against international law, even the UN said so. Source: https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htmIsrael is also doing an apartheid against Palestinians too. Again a horrific action by the Israeli government and obviously a violation of international law. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-makdisi-netanyahu-election-palestinians-apartheid-20190410-story.html
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Imagine actually believing that.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Imagine actually believing that. I do believe that. I lived it. Israel is a free society, a democratic country where all people enjoy rights and representation. For centuries we endured horrendous persecution will the Brits took over and Israel was formed after WW2
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Imagine actually believing that. Israel is a free society, a democratic country where all people enjoy rights and representation. Israel is literally doing an apartheid.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever.
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People still haven't learnt lol -PB
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+xPeople still haven't learnt lol -PB About Aikhmerouge being a troll? Yeah I know he’s a troll, I just wanted to make him look stupid.
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+x+xPeople still haven't learnt lol -PB About Aikhmerouge being a troll? Yeah I know he’s a troll, I just wanted to make him look stupid. You are only making yourself look stupid. Firstly, I'm not a South Australian or live in Adelaide. There goes your fantasy about linking me to other members. Secondly, I am a very open book, and quite willing to send the forum owner my real world ID and address on where I live because I am fine with that. Thirdly, it really is none of your business. Apart from that you don't even know what you are talking about. All you got in your arsenal is that Trump looks after the top 1% when that isn't the case. the vast majority of businesses that benefited were small to medium enterprise, who employed more staff and therefore there was another benefit to working class people and the unemployed as well.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 Thd reality however is that Israel is the only democratic country with western principles in the entire region. Everyone has freedom of worship and everyone is represented in the Knesset. Imagine actually believing that. Israel is a free society, a democratic country where all people enjoy rights and representation. Israel is literally doing an apartheid. No it isn't. Jerusalem is a melting pot. There is no Apartheid in Israel. That is you conflating the issue once again. Every citizen can vote in Israel and every person has their representatives in the Knesset.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever. You did not provide any statistics. You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole. BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract. You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever. You did not provide any statistics. You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole. BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract. You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men. Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever. You did not provide any statistics. You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole. BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract. You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men. Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments. You provided a source with big multinationals employing people overseas, not exporting jobs on a wholesale scale. yes, these businesses are multinational and employ people in many countries because they actually export their products and services to those countries. HP, employ people all over the world, plus tens of thousands of people in the USA. You are conflating the facts with something that you are trying to fit into a particular narrative against Trump.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever. You did not provide any statistics. You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole. BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract. You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men. Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments. You provided a source with big multinationals employing people overseas, not exporting jobs on a wholesale scale. yes, these businesses are multinational and employ people in many countries because they actually export their products and services to those countries. HP, employ people all over the world, plus tens of thousands of people in the USA. You are conflating the facts with something that you are trying to fit into a particular narrative against Trump. No, all of your claims against me are complete horseshit and are completely untrue. It’s a disingenuous attempt to deflect from the topic at hand as you don’t have a counter to any of my arguments. The sources literally had the number of jobs outsourced under Trump in 2017 (93000) which is an increase from the amount of jobs outsourced. Under Obama', the average of amount jobs outsourced in the last 5 years of his Presidency was 87,500. I’m not going to bother replying to you as you’re not arguing in good faith.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]So who knew that a comedian is in the running for president of Ukraine. He's apparently the favourite to win despite not having a clear platform. If that's the case, then the current President must be doing a really shit job. Or people just want to see if a comedian becomes president . Hell we have hingers former good game presenter running for Senate and people are actually wanting to vote for him. He said please dont as it's a joke sad stage of affairs It is. If politicians were actually trying to help the people, then Trump wouldn't be President and the Ukrainian guy probably wouldn't be running. The people want an anti-establishment outsider as the establishment in many countries is screwing over the average Joe. Unfortunately for America, they got someone for pretended to be anti-establishment but ended up with the establishment's bitch. Can't get anymore anti establishment than Trump since the mainstream media hate him, Hollywood hate him and all the right people hate him. He has rustled all the feathers Literally does all the same policies that any establishment President would do which is why the media mainly criticises him for his affairs, sexual harassment and mean tweets. Such as what exactly? Just a few examples. Trump's tax bill even though nearly all of the benefits go to the top 1% and the amount of companies are paying zero taxes has doubled. Doing more war and bombing 8 different countries. (TBF Obama was doing the same thing but Trump has escalated it) Increasing military spending despite the US spending more than 8 of the next highest countries combined. (And most of them are US allies) Supporting the Israeli government despite them violating International law and committing war crimes. Many pro-Palestinian speakers have been suppressed and there are some anti-BDS laws in some states. And this serves my point exactly. You are only good with pumping out hyperbolic narratives, like Trump looking after the top 1% when that isn't true at all. it's about re-energizing the entire economy not provide incentives for the top 1% to flee out of the country because they are paying 35% in tax and can get away with paying less than 10% in China. The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. If Trump really cared about the average Joe, he would have stopped or limited outsourcing which is what he said he'll do on the campaign trail. He hasn't done this and outsourcing under Trump has increased. Bernie Sanders has some very good anti-outsourcing policy ideas. Sources: https://inhomelandsecurity.com/outsourcing-trump-administration/https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/the-companies-offshoring-jobs-at-a-record-pace-under-trump.html/https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_n_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e"The top 1% are incredibly mobiler too and they don't have any loyalty to a country, just their profit margins and share holders. " Trump should be loyal to his country and its people but he isn't and his policies reflect that. "Increasing spending on military is good. The USA has a big responsibility to its allies." No it isn't. America is bombing 8 different countries and none of which are any threat to the US. Some of that money could be used to rebuild America's infanstructure which has a grade of D+. Source: https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ "Supporting Israel is also good. Count yourselves all lucky that there is an israeli where people like me can live in peace and have freedom of worship. It would not be the case otherwise. " Supporting any country that violates international law, commits war crimes and does an effective apartheid is a big no-no. He also arms Saudi Arabia who commit war crimes, violates international law and is blockading Yemen (doing so while allied with Al-Qaeda). Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-22/yemen-houthis-and-saudi-forces-hold-up-food-aid-fuel/9897684 All these articles are again very hyperbolic. None have given any examples. It's just opinion. There are examples. Read the articles. I did read the articles. All I got was opinion, no statistics which actually paint a different picture. It's like reading the media about Russian collusion which we all now know was fake news Stop deflecting. You haven't been able to address any of my points with any facts, statistics or sources whatsoever. You did not provide any statistics. You just claimed hairy fairy things like Trump helping the top 1% which isn't true. The only thing you provide is hyperbole. BTW, your accusations that Trump is exporting jobs overseas is false, in the case of HP and Honeywell and others such as Lockheed Martin. these businesses are headquartered in the USA and pay tax in the USA but have contracts overseas and therefore have hundreds of people employed overseas. Such as Lockheed Martin who are building Australia's next generation fighter aircraft (f-35). They are employing hundreds of people in Australia in support of that contract. You are deliberately conflating the issue yet again and coming up with straw men. Lol. I literally supplied a source to all of my claims. If you actually read the articles, you’ll find some more evidence to back up my arguments. You provided a source with big multinationals employing people overseas, not exporting jobs on a wholesale scale. yes, these businesses are multinational and employ people in many countries because they actually export their products and services to those countries. HP, employ people all over the world, plus tens of thousands of people in the USA. You are conflating the facts with something that you are trying to fit into a particular narrative against Trump. No, all of your claims against me are complete horseshit and are completely untrue. It’s a disingenuous attempt to deflect from the topic at hand as you don’t have a counter to any of my arguments. I’m not going to bother replying to you as you’re not arguing in good faith. No its not. I am trying to tell yoiu what is factual, it has nothing to do with anything personal against you or anyone else. Yopu posted some nonsense that Trump is exporting record number of jobs overseas and cited some big US Multinational companies like Honeywell, HP and Lockheed Martin. there are record jobs overseas because business for them is turning out to be on the up. they are not exporting jobs overseas but have billions worth of contracts overseas and need to support those contracts with staff. Those very same companies employ the vast majority of people in the USA. This is completely separate to let's say a clothing company or shoe company like Nike using slave labor in Asia to manufacture their entire product range and then sell in western Economies for a 10000% mark up. The business you mentioned are NOT an example of exporting work overseas. Lockheed Martin for instance has people in Australia to support the F-35 contract for the ADF.
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So trump admitted on Sean hanitys show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because he felt a hunch.
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+xSo trump admitted on Sean hanitys show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because he felt a hunch. Can't blame him considering all the claims against him colluding with Russia, which were all false. I still haven't heard a thing from the other side admitting they made all that shit up. No class at all.
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Anti bullfighting party set to have a Spanish breakthrough. Yes its tradition but people are kinda finding it off putting since you have to kill the bull
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+xSo trump admitted on Sean hanitys show he made up claims of Obama wire tapping him . All because whe felt a hunch. He said it to make his point. And the point was well made. He was was falsely accused for the last 3 years that he colluded with Russia. So so he can make all the hunches he likes after that debacle.
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+xAnti bullfighting party set to have a Spanish breakthrough. Yes its tradition but people are kinda finding it off putting since you have to kill the bull But they eat the meat afterwards. no different to eating a steak. Man i’m eating lots of meat tomorrow because after I commune with God at 2:30 am my lent is over. 47 days as a vegan.
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IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. .......
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+xIDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. ....... This has to be a joke right? And you are taking such news as serious?
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+x+x IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. ....... This has to be a joke right? And you are taking such news as serious? Yep there it is .figure you argue about this. Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything. I'm done with you .
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Police have arrested a man in San Diego. A Shooting has occurred near a synapse
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+x+x+x IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. ....... This has to be a joke right? And you are taking such news as serious? Yep there it is .figure you argue about this. Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything. I'm done with you . Argue? I just said it was a joke. I'm glad you agree.
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+x+x+x+x IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. ....... This has to be a joke right? And you are taking such news as serious? Yep there it is .figure you argue about this. Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything. I'm done with you . Argue? I just said it was a joke. I'm glad you agree. 😂 I'm just as confused as you, you pretty much just asked if something that was a joke, was in fact a joke 😂 You're doomed in this forum, you can't say anything that's right anymore, or all any questions 😂
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+x+x+x+x+x IDLIB, SYRIA—Explaining that they hoped the personnel changes would enable the organization to avoid the State Department’s scrutiny, ISIS leaders announced Monday that they had added a few violent white supremacists to the group in a bid to get the U.S. to rescind its designation of ISIS as terrorists. “Being branded a terrorist organization has really made it difficult for ISIS to operate, so we’re pleased to introduce several members of racist white militia groups considered to be safe, respectable, and law-abiding in the eyes of the U.S. government,” said ISIS spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir in a video released by the organization, adding that he would go so far as to label the white supremacists “the new face of ISIS.” “We know we have a checkered past as far as America is concerned, but we hope bringing in members of white hate groups with documented histories of death threats and violence will prompt the State Department to view us in a new light. We expect this to be a fruitful collaboration, as we actually have a lot in common, and it turns out they have many more guns than we do. We anticipate the U.S. will extend to us the same understanding and support they offer to their own sectarian racial supremacists.” At press time, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that ISIS was no longer officially considered a terrorist organization based on their members’ newfound strong support for President Trump. ....... This has to be a joke right? And you are taking such news as serious? Yep there it is .figure you argue about this. Yes it's a joke it's from the onion. I wanted to see if you were gonna argue the point and you did. You always have to have an answer to everything. I'm done with you . Argue? I just said it was a joke. I'm glad you agree. 😂 I'm just as confused as you, you pretty much just asked if something that was a joke, was in fact a joke 😂 You're doomed in this forum, you can't say anything that's right anymore, or all any questions 😂 I know mate. Like pushing shit uphill!
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Noam Chomsky with 9 minutes of pure brilliance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llzoItQgLOQ
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