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lukerobinho wrote:Ryan needs to go out on loan
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As mentioned previously, Brugge are pushing hard for a loan. You'd think remaining in Spain would be more beneficial as he could continue learning the language, culture etc and he's already 'done' Belgium twice over - hard to imagine he could learn too much more there.
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Bowden wrote:As mentioned previously, Brugge are pushing hard for a loan. You'd think remaining in Spain would be more beneficial as he could continue learning the language, culture etc and he's already 'done' Belgium twice over - hard to imagine he could learn too much more there. Playing football is more beneficial than learning the language and culture while you languish on the bench.
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highkick05
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Bowden wrote:As mentioned previously, Brugge are pushing hard for a loan. You'd think remaining in Spain would be more beneficial as he could continue learning the language, culture etc and he's already 'done' Belgium twice over - hard to imagine he could learn too much more there. He's still pushing learning Spanish. All the respect to the guy, very humble, top guy, top player. What's the chance of Alves reinjuring himself and then this second div keeper maybe losing it. Langerak finally got his chance and never really made anything of it. Maty will be ready, that I'm sure of. Mate he'd be like Jedi, fucking burning to get on the pitch. I don't think Maty will blow it if given half a chance , my opinion is by the end of the season he will be number 1. That domenche has played far too much second div. Another factor that may play out is that Neville loses too many games and gets sacked. Maty could use the loan excuse of 'it's far too unpredicatble @ the moment @ Valencia' I want a stable situation cos this is not playing out well for me and I want more. etc
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lukerobinho
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highkick05 wrote:Bowden wrote:As mentioned previously, Brugge are pushing hard for a loan. You'd think remaining in Spain would be more beneficial as he could continue learning the language, culture etc and he's already 'done' Belgium twice over - hard to imagine he could learn too much more there. He's still pushing learning Spanish. All the respect to the guy, very humble, top guy, top player. What's the chance of Alves reinjuring himself and then this second div keeper maybe losing it. Langerak finally got his chance and never really made anything of it. Maty will be ready, that I'm sure of. Mate he'd be like Jedi, fucking burning to get on the pitch. I don't think Maty will blow it if given half a chance , my opinion is by the end of the season he will be number 1. That domenche has played far too much second div. Another factor that may play out is that Neville loses too many games and gets sacked. Maty could use the loan excuse of 'it's far too unpredicatble @ the moment @ Valencia' I want a stable situation cos this is not playing out well for me and I want more. etc You're essentially saying two players ahead of him need serious injuries... hardly a convincing argument
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highkick05
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lukerobinho wrote:highkick05 wrote:Bowden wrote:As mentioned previously, Brugge are pushing hard for a loan. You'd think remaining in Spain would be more beneficial as he could continue learning the language, culture etc and he's already 'done' Belgium twice over - hard to imagine he could learn too much more there. He's still pushing learning Spanish. All the respect to the guy, very humble, top guy, top player. What's the chance of Alves reinjuring himself and then this second div keeper maybe losing it. Langerak finally got his chance and never really made anything of it. Maty will be ready, that I'm sure of. Mate he'd be like Jedi, fucking burning to get on the pitch. I don't think Maty will blow it if given half a chance , my opinion is by the end of the season he will be number 1. That domenche has played far too much second div. Another factor that may play out is that Neville loses too many games and gets sacked. Maty could use the loan excuse of 'it's far too unpredicatble @ the moment @ Valencia' I want a stable situation cos this is not playing out well for me and I want more. etc You're essentially saying two players ahead of him need serious injuries... hardly a convincing argument Well Maty has no real injuries. I said Domenche's form could drop off bcos he's second league educated, he has known second league quantity. With Alves it would make more sense because he's been injured for about as long as Maty's been at Valencia, so going off A-League's injury prone idiot players it would make sense that he'd be injured again sooner rather than later, allowing Maty to step up. If Maty knows what's going on, my hunch is he'll ride it out and take his opportunity. He's a smart boy and proven quality in every league he's played in so far , so fuck Neville he's an idiot Edited by highkick05: 1/1/2016 03:15:00 AM
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Villarreal score from a free kick, not sure of keeper should have done better. Perhaps ? wall didn't look the best
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lukerobinho wrote:Villarreal score from a free kick, not sure of keeper should have done better. Perhaps ? wall didn't look the best the stars are aligning
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and villarreal win. Neville might go with a keeper change but going off of ALL stubborn English know it all managers, no change cos they know best
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Looks like Rhys will be loaned out for a few months for match time to a fellow Championship club http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fit-again-middlesbrough-defender-rhys-10671620Sky Sports reporting its Charlton. Edited by lebo_roo: 1/1/2016 06:22:36 AM
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Would be great if he got minutes right up. In his case minutes are much more important than breaking into a team that's probably going up. This article states Preston as an option. This could be interesting. Rhys RB, Wright next to him. Sign up Sainsbury and Elder and you've got a Socceroos back 4. Edited by Johnszasz: 1/1/2016 06:54:14 AM
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How long is Elder out for?
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Dan_The_Red wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Fulham had no aussies on paper so fuck em. What's the latest with Cameron Burgess? This time last year he was one of the big talking points, haven't heard a whisper about him since. He isn't Scottish anymore. It does seem as soon as he committed to Aus, Fulham no longer rated him... :lol: So typical Mate his minutes dried up as soon as he declared. All of sudden he wasn't good enough to even ride the bench? Or just a coincidence? And yes, I genuinely believe Australia footballers are discriminated against. Hell, even Eurocentric Australians discrimate against Aussie players... He was never getting 'minutes'. He played pre-season and file din during 1 or 2 games... He's not even close to Fulham's first team. Never getting minutes you say? He played the full 90 mins for the first month of the season. Do some research before posting utter rubbish. And he was never seen again after pledging himself to Australia, coincidence I'm sure:roll: Hahahahahaha it's just so f***ing funny that you actually think that's the reason. He played 4 straight games at the start of last season under McGath, in which they lost all fourth including 2 at home, conceding 9 goals. He was only there because of injuries and got dropped like a gun the second players were back. Even at the time, fans on FriendsofFulham were saying that he just didn't look upto it yet. Come with your guns loaded next time. Your anti-australian conspiracy is so freaking dumb.
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I think eastern glory is holger osiek
in all seriousness implicit bias is a real thing although its impossible to know who has been kept back by predjudice and who has been kept back by merit other than knowing that a large enough group of players there will be some number of them that fall into each category. Thats the sucky thing about predjudice, you never know when its at play. But that unfortunately is a head wind that aussies along with the fact that foreigners tend to be held to higher standards.
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Have to laugh at the gaggle of Aussie armchair critics giving Gary Neville grief because he isnt picking Matt Ryan.
I know this thread has become so desperate we're almost asking whether an aussie backpacker is getting a start with the pub side he works at but questioning a multiple trophy winning, long time international and respected pundit is just comical.
And I dont even like the fella.
my god the fanboys in this forum....
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:22:28 AM
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:27:09 AM
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grazorblade wrote:I think eastern glory is holger osiek You got meh.
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grazorblade wrote:I think eastern glory is holger osiek
in all seriousness implicit bias is a real thing although its impossible to know who has been kept back by predjudice and who has been kept back by merit other than knowing that a large enough group of players there will be some number of them that fall into each category. Thats the sucky thing about predjudice, you never know when its at play. But that unfortunately is a head wind that aussies along with the fact that foreigners tend to be held to higher standards. We all know that one suck ass bloke
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Straight Bat wrote:Have to laugh at the gaggle of Aussie armchair critics giving Gary Neville grief because he isnt picking Matt Ryan.
I know this thread has become so desperate we're almost asking whether an aussie backpacker is getting a start with the pub side he works at but questioning a multiple trophy winning, long time international and respected pundit is just comical.
And I dont even like the fella.
my god the fanboys in this forum....
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:22:28 AM
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:27:09 AM Mat Ryan is an internationally renowned. multiple trophy winning goalkeeper...just saying
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Straight Bat wrote:Have to laugh at the gaggle of Aussie armchair critics giving Gary Neville grief because he isnt picking Matt Ryan.
Have no idea as to why people would wan't one of Australia's key player playing huh All these stupid fanboys wanting our NT players to play, where do they get the nerve :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Langan wrote:Straight Bat wrote:Have to laugh at the gaggle of Aussie armchair critics giving Gary Neville grief because he isnt picking Matt Ryan.
I know this thread has become so desperate we're almost asking whether an aussie backpacker is getting a start with the pub side he works at but questioning a multiple trophy winning, long time international and respected pundit is just comical.
And I dont even like the fella.
my god the fanboys in this forum....
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:22:28 AM
Edited by Straight Bat: 1/1/2016 11:27:09 AM Mat Ryan is an internationally renowned. multiple trophy winning goalkeeper...just saying 1 Internationally renowned :lol: 2 You really putting him up alongside Gary Neville :lol:
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jlm8695 wrote:Straight Bat wrote:Have to laugh at the gaggle of Aussie armchair critics giving Gary Neville grief because he isnt picking Matt Ryan.
Have no idea as to why people would wan't one of Australia's key player playing huh All these stupid fanboys wanting our NT players to play, where do they get the nerve :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: See, knew we'd agree somewhere down the line. Onya :d
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there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
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adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better. If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty. I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes
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highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better. If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty. I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles...
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Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better. If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty. I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... Well they're hardly , both of them, accomplished managers. I watched the last Valencia game a little, very similar style to man united would you believe. Not that I know perfectly what the style is, all you needed was Ronaldo runningaround and you'd think it was Man Utd. So they may have experience 'playing' but managing my oh my, means nothing as far as I can see, especially if you think one style will fit all teams. To which I think Neville will fail Domenech has only recently stepped up to this role, if he is good then good for him, but if he doesn't have the quality then he will ultimately fail as well. Not his prob, but if they lose more games, they will start to think maybe we change him Neville is probably a little alienated and trying to win over his new country I suspect. He would only piss off fans putting an Aussie keeper in , so fuck him for trying to play Mr. Popular as well
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highkick05 wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better. If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty. I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... Well they're hardly , both of them, accomplished managers. I watched the last Valencia game a little, very similar style to man united would you believe. Not that I know perfectly what the style is, all you needed was Ronaldo runningaround and you'd think it was Man Utd. So they may have experience 'playing' but managing my oh my, means nothing as far as I can see, especially if you think one style will fit all teams. To which I think Neville will fail Domenech has only recently stepped up to this role, if he is good then good for him, but if he doesn't have the quality then he will ultimately fail as well. Not his prob, but if they lose more games, they will start to think maybe we change him Neville is probably a little alienated and trying to win over his new country I suspect. He would only piss off fans putting an Aussie keeper in , so fuck him for trying to play Mr. Popular as well I respect your opinion mate and I would put all my money on Gary going back to his pundit gig soon enough and Phil being a number twos somehwere. But I wouldnt be so daft as to completely dismiss the enormous wealth of knowledge and experience they have nor the overriding fact that Gary and his coaching staff work with these guys on a daily basis. Our personal opinions from viewing these players from our couches just dont carry any weight whatsoever. Mattys a good keeper but I think reality is that the difference between him and Domenech is marginal and obviously Neville and staff see it differently.
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Eastern Glory wrote:grazorblade wrote:I think eastern glory is holger osiek You got meh. :D
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Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Fulham had no aussies on paper so fuck em. What's the latest with Cameron Burgess? This time last year he was one of the big talking points, haven't heard a whisper about him since. He isn't Scottish anymore. It does seem as soon as he committed to Aus, Fulham no longer rated him... :lol: So typical Mate his minutes dried up as soon as he declared. All of sudden he wasn't good enough to even ride the bench? Or just a coincidence? And yes, I genuinely believe Australia footballers are discriminated against. Hell, even Eurocentric Australians discrimate against Aussie players... He was never getting 'minutes'. He played pre-season and file din during 1 or 2 games... He's not even close to Fulham's first team. Never getting minutes you say? He played the full 90 mins for the first month of the season. Do some research before posting utter rubbish. And he was never seen again after pledging himself to Australia, coincidence I'm sure:roll: Hahahahahaha it's just so f***ing funny that you actually think that's the reason. He played 4 straight games at the start of last season under McGath, in which they lost all fourth including 2 at home, conceding 9 goals. He was only there because of injuries and got dropped like a gun the second players were back. Even at the time, fans on FriendsofFulham were saying that he just didn't look upto it yet. Come with your guns loaded next time. Your anti-australian conspiracy is so freaking dumb. Four straight games you say? But what happened to your previous line of '1 or 2 games in preseason' line? oh that's right your a clueless fuck who has no facts. You were also the biggest fanboy of Holger on this forum, what happened there, oh that's right he lost his job for being overwhelmingly shit..says a lot about your knowledge of anything. Muppet. As always.
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Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech should be selected a head of Ryan
Domenech never played 1 minute of La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better. If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty. I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team? he never manage a team before..
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Scottish paper doing a top 50 players of 2015. Irvine got 17th which is pretty decent for a player 22 year old who at the start of the year was in a team that looked guaranteed for relegation. His part just says Celtic should have kept him. Quote:17. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) It is my prediction that Celtic are going to one day regret not giving Jackson Irvine more of a chance at Parkhead. They did offer the Australian a new contract in the summer, but the player revealed this was nothing more than a move to ensure a compensation fee, and that he’d been told he had little future at the club. Personally, Irvine seems well suited to playing one of the deeper roles in Ronny Deila’s 4-2-3-1, and given the Celtic manager’s obviously respect for the Ladbrokes Premiership given his signing policy, you’d have thought Deila might have been swayed by the player’s rapid improvement in the first half of 2015 as Ross County rocketed themselves up the league table. Since signing for County permanently in the summer, you’ll be pleased to hear, Irvine has continued to develop and played a starring role in his team’s victory over rivals Inverness CT, which put them in their first ever League Cup semi-final, where they’ll meet Celtic, ironically enough. Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/top-50-scottish-football-players-in-2015-20-11-1-3989077#ixzz3vyeYVFiJ
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