The Aussies Abroad Thread


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come home spira

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inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 2:43 PM
CSL player rankings whoscored 

31 - sainsbury
40 - cahill
83 - spiranovic
116 - mcgowan
133 - thwaite
135 - jovanovic
142 - giannou

 


They have all gone downhill.


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our mighty captain picks up hitc motm in the birmingham derby. 

Mile Jedinak 7.5/10 – Arguably his best game in a Villa shirt. The 32-year-old Australian battled away in the centre of the park, making six interceptions and seven clearances, while also winning two tackles and a match-leading 11 aerial duels. Further proof that he’s much more effective in a three-man midfield.


http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/10/30/aston-villa-player-ratings-against-birmingham-city-mile-jedinak/


 




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Top stuff, Jedi 👏🏻
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inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 2:43 PM
CSL player rankings whoscored 

31 - sainsbury
40 - cahill
83 - spiranovic
116 - mcgowan
133 - thwaite
135 - jovanovic
142 - giannou

 


Whoscored r, have the aussie players rated better in English chnap league , then CSL

14 -Massimo Luongo
27-Jackson Irvine
36- Bailey Wright
107-Aaron Mooy



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adrtho2 - 1 Nov 2016 1:27 AM
inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 2:43 PM

Whoscored r, have the aussie players rated better in English chnap league , then CSL

14 -Massimo Luongo
27-Jackson Irvine
36- Bailey Wright
107-Aaron Mooy



Because CSL is crap. It has destroyed our best players.


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Ryan bench . Amini got 60 and Ikonomidis 90 in a 6:2 win. No goals but maybe some assists and good  play.
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Gone for sure. If he wants to go to Russia he won't be playing in the Chinese second div.

Yeah that's awesome it will force him to move he had offers from France last time round it would be a good destination for him. Sainsbury should be looking to move as well with the South Korean international who played in the bundesliga looking to be the more favored. China is not a place you want to be sharing minutes the standard is far to low
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adrtho2 - 1 Nov 2016 1:27 AM
inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 2:43 PM

Whoscored r, have the aussie players rated better in English chnap league , then CSL

14 -Massimo Luongo
27-Jackson Irvine
36- Bailey Wright
107-Aaron Mooy



that's because we have better players in the championship. and the CSL is crap.

 




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Aarhus v Esbjerg saw 4 Aussies on the team sheet. Ended 6-2 to Aarhus. 


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Whats the go with Rafa Jimenez? havent heard anything for ages.
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inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 9:50 PM
our mighty captain picks up hitc motm in the birmingham derby. 

Mile Jedinak 7.5/10 – Arguably his best game in a Villa shirt. The 32-year-old Australian battled away in the centre of the park, making six interceptions and seven clearances, while also winning two tackles and a match-leading 11 aerial duels. Further proof that he’s much more effective in a three-man midfield.


http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/10/30/aston-villa-player-ratings-against-birmingham-city-mile-jedinak/

I am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line).

I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players.
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BIGHUX - 1 Nov 2016 11:20 AM
Whats the go with Rafa Jimenez? havent heard anything for ages.

Playing for the University of New Mexico Lobos

http://www.golobos.com/roster.aspx?path=msoc

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sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:07 PM
inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 9:50 PM

I am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line).

I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players.

Derby games are never pretty games. Look at the 'Classico'. For the best teams in the world its usually a hack-fest of poor tackles, petulance and diving haha.

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BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 12:19 PM
sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:07 PM

Derby games are never pretty games. Look at the 'Classico'. For the best teams in the world its usually a hack-fest of poor tackles, petulance and diving haha.

Yeah right like the classico 2005/2006 when ronaldinho dribbled the whole team and scored a hatrick for barca to the standing ovation of the entire Real Madrid bench.



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HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 12:29 PM
BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 12:19 PM

Yeah right like the classico 2005/2006 when ronaldinho dribbled the whole team and scored a hatrick for barca to the standing ovation of the entire Real Madrid bench.

Taken as a whole they're not pretty matches is what I was saying. Note I said usually which means in common English that there are exceptions.

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BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 12:40 PM
HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 12:29 PM

Taken as a whole they're not pretty matches is what I was saying. Note I said usually which means in common English that there are exceptions.






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HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 12:43 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/ugsU0q3.gifv

?????

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BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 12:44 PM
HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 12:43 PM

?????

In reference to your "the classico is a hack fest" philosophy.



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sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:07 PM
inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 9:50 PM

I am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line).

I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players.

seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also.
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So Jedi may have won a lot of duels and clearances in the derby, but my god look at his passing accuracy...38% !!!



Meanwhile take a look at Jackson Irvine's passing accuracy from Burton's 2-0 loss to Leeds on the weekend:



I will accept that, while i was only able to watch the 1st half, it was primarily a hoof and hope game, but for me comparing the stats of the two highlights exactly why Jedi can be detrimental to the Socceroos and Ange's game plan, and why Irvine deserves a start for the Roos in the very, very near future.
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sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:07 PM
inala brah - 31 Oct 2016 9:50 PM

I am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line).

I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players.

Kev Muscat needs to revert to British style football every now and then. He lacks alternate formations.
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HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 1:11 PM
BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 12:44 PM

In reference to your "the classico is a hack fest" philosophy.

Are you really suggesting that it's equal in quality to other games?

Get off the pipe champion.

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sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:12 PM
BIGHUX - 1 Nov 2016 11:20 AM

Playing for the University of New Mexico Lobos

http://www.golobos.com/roster.aspx?path=msoc

Thats a shame. had a bit of hype a few years back
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jas88 - 1 Nov 2016 1:22 PM
sokorny - 1 Nov 2016 12:07 PM

seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also.

luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same.

 




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inala brah - 1 Nov 2016 9:18 PM
jas88 - 1 Nov 2016 1:22 PM

luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same.

Does it mean that Irvine isn't better suited to it than Luongo, though?
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BETHFC - 1 Nov 2016 1:54 PM
HortoMagiko - 1 Nov 2016 1:11 PM

Are you really suggesting that it's equal in quality to other games?

Get off the pipe champion.

Oops Wrong Thread




Requiescat in pace!

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That's something about Irvine I've wondered about - do we assume he is a good defender just because he's a big unit? From highlights he seems pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet, but can anyone confirm he actually defends well enough to screen the back 4? I haven't seen enough of him play yet.
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Aljay - 1 Nov 2016 11:11 PM
That's something about Irvine I've wondered about - do we assume he is a good defender just because he's a big unit? From highlights he seems pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet, but can anyone confirm he actually defends well enough to screen the back 4? I haven't seen enough of him play yet.

I've seen these sorts of questions so much on 442 and to be fair, I don't think any of us have really seen him play enough to be making very good judgements about his game.

I've seen at the most 2-3 games he's played outside his cameos for the socceroos, and with the lack of televised games in the championship, this is really tough for us to gauge. 
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quickflick - 1 Nov 2016 9:55 PM
inala brah - 1 Nov 2016 9:18 PM

Does it mean that Irvine isn't better suited to it than Luongo, though?

depends if you want a defensive midfielder playing in defensive midfield or not.

 




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