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Kruse with a muscle pull. Won't be in CL squad . should be right for Thailand but I'd give Halloran a run instead .
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+x+xThat's something about Irvine I've wondered about - do we assume he is a good defender just because he's a big unit? From highlights he seems pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet, but can anyone confirm he actually defends well enough to screen the back 4? I haven't seen enough of him play yet. I've seen these sorts of questions so much on 442 and to be fair, I don't think any of us have really seen him play enough to be making very good judgements about his game. I've seen at the most 2-3 games he's played outside his cameos for the socceroos, and with the lack of televised games in the championship, this is really tough for us to gauge. from what ive seen and heard he's an 8. box to box. he was more defensive in scotland. if its just size why dont we put tom rogic or tomi juric to replace jedinak? i have no real issue with irvine getting a run in the 6 slot. but why when luongo is doing a great job of it? why get fixated on imitating a player (jedi) whose style we are leaving behind? its the NT. you got to work with the cattle you have.
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+xKruse with a muscle pull. Won't be in CL squad . should be right for Thailand but I'd give Halloran a run instead . you really think he would have been in the CL squad anyway?
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+x+x+x+x+xI am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line). I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players. seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also. luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same. Does it mean that Irvine isn't better suited to it than Luongo, though? depends if you want a defensive midfielder playing in defensive midfield or not. Does it though? You're making the assumption that because such and such plays as a box-to-box midfielder for his club side, he is not as good (or better) as a central defensive midfielder. That's an assumption, at this stage. As we know, Mooy tends to be deployed deeper at Huddersfield, but is quite capable of doing brilliant work higher up the park for the NT. You might be right. The assumption may be founded on a lack of defensive ability on Irvine's part. But it is, nevertheless, an assumption. Always good to think outside the box.
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+x+x+xThat's something about Irvine I've wondered about - do we assume he is a good defender just because he's a big unit? From highlights he seems pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet, but can anyone confirm he actually defends well enough to screen the back 4? I haven't seen enough of him play yet. I've seen these sorts of questions so much on 442 and to be fair, I don't think any of us have really seen him play enough to be making very good judgements about his game. I've seen at the most 2-3 games he's played outside his cameos for the socceroos, and with the lack of televised games in the championship, this is really tough for us to gauge. from what ive seen and heard he's an 8. box to box. he was more defensive in scotland. if its just size why dont we put tom rogic or tomi juric to replace jedinak? i have no real issue with irvine getting a run in the 6 slot. but why when luongo is doing a great job of it? why get fixated on imitating a player (jedi) whose style we are leaving behind? its the NT. you got to work with the cattle you have. Good thinking. Thinking outside the box. My reasoning for Irvine playing at CDM is I reckon that we still need some muscle in that position and Irvine will be better at breaking up play than Luongo (who's still good anyway). But it may be too much to ask either of them to be a sole CDM. And I'd only play a sole CDM with three central defenders and aggressive wingbacks (which is the back-line I reckon the NT ought to use presently). When Luongo plays CDM with QPR what's the shape of the midfield?
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+xThats a shame. had a bit of hype a few years back
Getting a university education apparently - From dailylobo.com
Fall Sports Issue: Spanish soccer upstart joins UNM
By Isabel Gonzalez Published 09/12/16 10:18am
 By Nick Fojud
Freshman defender Rafa Jimenez charges the ball during a practice on Thursday, Sept. 8, 2016 at the UNM Soccer Complex. Jimenez came to UNM from Madrid, Spain, and has played for the influential soccer club Club Atletico De Madrid. Whether it’s at club or international level, Spain is almost inarguably one of the most dominant countries in the world when it comes to soccer. The UNM men’s soccer team now has a little piece of that distinction. Rafa Jimenez, a 20-year-old from Madrid, Spain, came to New Mexico a month ago to join the Lobos. The central defender is bringing vast experience in different levels of the sport. “This is a new stage in my life and I’m very excited,” Jimenez said. “(At UNM) you have to be really fit and really focused on everything. It’s not just the soccer part, it’s also the academic part. Exercise your brain and your ability to manage more than one thing. I think this will help me a lot in my future.” His journey with soccer began around the same time he started walking. His father, Rafa Jimenez Sr., said he can’t remember a time when his son wasn’t interested in the game. “I guess it is a natural instinct for every boy since the age of three to kick a soccer ball around all day here in Spain,” he said. “Rafa was no different. Since I can remember, as a small boy he was always running around all day kicking a ball.” Jimenez, Sr. said he and his son would spend several hours every week practicing in their yard. He noticed that his son had a “particular and distinctive talent” and decided to help him make the most of it. “So at the age of eight I took him to the Real Madrid academy to get a feeling of what it would be like to train and play in an important team,” he said. “The first thing the coaches noticed was his intensity and desire to always do better and better.” That got the ball rolling, and Jimenez hasn’t looked back. Since then, he has gotten some minutes with academies like Club Atletico de Madrid and Villarreal CF. Right before coming to UNM, Jimenez was playing third division with Fuenlabrada. Jimenez also has experience playing at an international level, but not with Spain.
His father was born in Australia, which allowed Jimenez to play for the Australian youth national team at the U-19 and U-20 levels. Two years ago, Jimenez experienced some groin pain and was forced to get surgery. It was a tough time for the defender, but his father said he handled it well. “His persistence, hard work and desire to succeed after a real bad injury-prone year, where others would have thrown in the towel, assures me that success is only a matter of time,” he said. Jimenez said the reason he started looking into playing at collegiate level was because he and his parents decided that it would be smart to pursue both a college and a soccer career. He is currently studying business and said that if that’s what he ends up doing for the rest of his life, he wants to climb as high as he can and become his own boss. “I would like to have my own company and try to administrate it. Maybe like some sports company or something in relation with sports,” he said. But of course, Jimenez’s most ambitious dream has to do with soccer. “I would like to play first division in Spain, that’s my dream,” he said. “But I know it’s really difficult so I focus on being good every day and going step by step, just trying my best. When I get to my highest level, if it’s first division Spain it would be great. If it’s first division in the U.S., that would also be good.” Isabel Gonzalez is a sports reporter for the Daily Lobo. She mainly covers men’s soccer and basketball. She can be reached at sports@dailylobo.com or on Twitter
@cisabelg.
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Celtic play such garbage football. Demebele, Sinclair and Rogic look like their only technical players, and have to constantly watch the ball fly over their heads
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+xCeltic play such garbage football. Demebele, Sinclair and Rogic look like their only technical players, and have to constantly watch the ball fly over their heads They look a class below when they play in Europe. Also feel like they under utilise Rogic. I feel he gets in to some really good spaces between the lines but quite often they ignore him/wait too long or just knock it wide/back. Very frustrating to watch.
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Can someone tell me if Brad Jones is playing for PSV?
For some reason i cannot watch sbs stremed live on my phone.
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+xCan someone tell me if Brad Jones is playing for PSV? For some reason i cannot watch sbs stremed live on my phone. He plays for Feyenoord, wrong team haha
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+x+xCan someone tell me if Brad Jones is playing for PSV? For some reason i cannot watch sbs stremed live on my phone. He plays for Feyenoord, wrong team haha Ahh. Sbs is still shit
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+x+xCeltic play such garbage football. Demebele, Sinclair and Rogic look like their only technical players, and have to constantly watch the ball fly over their heads They look a class below when they play in Europe. Also feel like they under utilise Rogic. I feel he gets in to some really good spaces between the lines but quite often they ignore him/wait too long or just knock it wide/back. Very frustrating to watch. How is he going so far?
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Rogic subbed at 70 , BMG had player sent off Celtic score from pen , finished 1-1
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+x+x+xI am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line). I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players. seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also. luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same. he might be for QPR.. I just don't he's quick enough or has the size to be a superior #6 to Irvine...
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+xCeltic play such garbage football. Demebele, Sinclair and Rogic look like their only technical players, and have to constantly watch the ball fly over their heads You shouldn't be critical of a team with a fraction of the budget and resources of the other teams in their group are not knocking it around that they are playing on carpet against kids. If it wasn't for Scottish teams like Celtic you wouldn't even have the modern passing game.
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+xCan someone tell me if Brad Jones is playing for PSV? For some reason i cannot watch sbs stremed live on my phone. Not unless he's recently transferred from Feyenoord . Thursday is his day.
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+x+xKruse with a muscle pull. Won't be in CL squad . should be right for Thailand but I'd give Halloran a run instead . you really think he would have been in the CL squad anyway? Reports suggested he was among 3 others ruled out.Bellarabi is back soon. He's made a quick recovery . Winter transfer is bound to happen.
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+x+x+x+xI am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line). I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players. seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also. luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same. he might be for QPR.. I just don't he's quick enough or has the size to be a superior #6 to Irvine... yeah he's just consistently rated one of the best in the championship for that position and has 2 awards for qpr's player of the month in a season that's 3 months old. seriously move on from height fixations.
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+x+x+xKruse with a muscle pull. Won't be in CL squad . should be right for Thailand but I'd give Halloran a run instead . you really think he would have been in the CL squad anyway? Reports suggested he was among 3 others ruled out.Bellarabi is back soon. He's made a quick recovery . Winter transfer is bound to happen. i can only hope. it's damned good effort on his part to be getting some minutes this season in a team stacked with talent in his position.
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+x+x+x+x+xI am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line). I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players. seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also. luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same. he might be for QPR.. I just don't he's quick enough or has the size to be a superior #6 to Irvine... yeah he's just consistently rated one of the best in the championship for that position and has 2 awards for qpr's player of the month in a season that's 3 months old. seriously move on from height fixations. yep, and he is actually quite quick across the turf. Has used his speed a number of times to get back and make goal saving tackles
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Can anyone provide information on how Rogic played this morning?
Also, Andy Rose scored again for Coventry, in a 2-0 win over Fleetwood Town. He's in some decent form since coming back from injury. From what I can see, he appears to play a bit Mooy-esque, in terms of position and style. Which unfortunately seems to be a position we have a fair few candidates for.
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+xCan anyone provide information on how Rogic played this morning?Also, Andy Rose scored again for Coventry, in a 2-0 win over Fleetwood Town. He's in some decent form since coming back from injury. From what I can see, he appears to play a bit Mooy-esque, in terms of position and style. Which unfortunately seems to be a position we have a fair few candidates for. aparently an off night according to forums though the team got a 1-1 draw if they can make the champions league 2 years in a row there is an argument for rogic to stay another year. His performances are still inconsistent and while he is getting more game time all the time he isn't playing 90 minutes all the time yet
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+xThats a shame. had a bit of hype a few years back He may still come good ... only young, some players develop later than others (especially defenders).
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Yeah, I've been following him for some time, and after he got a major soft tissue injury he basically had a massive fall from grace. He dropped down divisions in Spain to recover, but I reckon it did him over pretty badly mentally for a bit. He seems happier now (I follow him on Instagram haha) and maybe this change in scenery is what he needs to get things back on track. I reckon he does have potential, and could possibly be an option for a future RB spot if he finds his feet, but he's also giving himself a back up.
I've been thinking about it recently, as to who could be potential RB bolters for the Roos out of the untried OS guys. Here's a few options, with club and disclaimers haha
1. Gethin Jones (Everton) - could be good, but besides a decent loan to Plymouth last season, he doesn't seem to have done too much in senior football. Also, he is very Welsh based on his Twitter. It could be hard to convince him.
2 Rafa Jimenez (New Mexico Uni) - obviously not at the level needed at the moment. Also, he was a funny case with him never having been to Australia before. He seemed to go ok with the junior Aussie teams, without being amazing.
3. Perry Cotton (Birmingham) - I have been trying to find recent club info on him for a while, but I can't find anything. He is apparently still at Birmingham. He had a good loan spell with Kettering Town in the national league last season, and they seemed to win every time he played. If you search him, there are some articles about him from May. He turned 20 the other day though and he is on his way back to Australia for some reason, so I'm not sure what is going on with him. In terms of style of play, I believe he is like Callum Elder (Leicester/Brentford), but obviously RB.
4. Fran Karacic (Lokomotiva Zagreb) - in terms of playing time and level, he seems to be the best option, however, he is similar to Jimenez, in that he has never been to Australia, but his dad was born here. I know some people have issues with that, but he is eligible. Whether Ange would take a punt and use him is a different question. From highlights and stats, he seems like a handy RB in defence, who also chips in with set-piece goals.
From the top of my head, those are the 4 main ones I can think of. All of them are young and could grow into the role, however only Karacic has proven himself at a senior level in a reasonable league.
Does anyone else know of any other hidden OS right backs?
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+xYeah, I've been following him for some time, and after he got a major soft tissue injury he basically had a massive fall from grace. He dropped down divisions in Spain to recover, but I reckon it did him over pretty badly mentally for a bit. He seems happier now (I follow him on Instagram haha) and maybe this change in scenery is what he needs to get things back on track. I reckon he does have potential, and could possibly be an option for a future RB spot if he finds his feet, but he's also giving himself a back up.I've been thinking about it recently, as to who could be potential RB bolters for the Roos out of the untried OS guys. Here's a few options, with club and disclaimers haha1. Gethin Jones (Everton) - could be good, but besides a decent loan to Plymouth last season, he doesn't seem to have done too much in senior football. Also, he is very Welsh based on his Twitter. It could be hard to convince him.2 Rafa Jimenez (New Mexico Uni) - obviously not at the level needed at the moment. Also, he was a funny case with him never having been to Australia before. He seemed to go ok with the junior Aussie teams, without being amazing.3. Perry Cotton (Birmingham) - I have been trying to find recent club info on him for a while, but I can't find anything. He is apparently still at Birmingham. He had a good loan spell with Kettering Town in the national league last season, and they seemed to win every time he played. If you search him, there are some articles about him from May. He turned 20 the other day though and he is on his way back to Australia for some reason, so I'm not sure what is going on with him. In terms of style of play, I believe he is like Callum Elder (Leicester/Brentford), but obviously RB.4. Fran Karacic (Lokomotiva Zagreb) - in terms of playing time and level, he seems to be the best option, however, he is similar to Jimenez, in that he has never been to Australia, but his dad was born here. I know some people have issues with that, but he is eligible. Whether Ange would take a punt and use him is a different question. From highlights and stats, he seems like a handy RB in defence, who also chips in with set-piece goals.From the top of my head, those are the 4 main ones I can think of. All of them are young and could grow into the role, however only Karacic has proven himself at a senior level in a reasonable league.Does anyone else know of any other hidden OS right backs? you should email that to ange
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i hope ange is making some moves for gethin jones. born in perth. there's still a shot. supposedly has serious pace.
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Haha my dream job is to be a scout, so I'd happily help old mate Ange out ;)
Yeah, Jones seems to have a lot of potential and he seems to have a pretty decent reputation. I believe he was captaining the Welsh U-20s or something at some point last year. Plymouth supporters and coach seemed to like him when he was playing there too. From memory they extended his loan and wanted to keep him.
My concern with the English system with their junior teams is that it doesn't necessarily translate into being decent/reputable senior players. If players aren't playing first team football by the time they are 20/21, wouldn't that put them at a slight disadvantage to someone who has been in and around seniors since 18? Just looking at Gallifuoco a few years ago as captain of Swansea juniors and winning the title, he was highly regarded, but flopped at MV and is now in the conference.
Anyway, that's a tangent. I'll do a little more research and try to find any more RBs playing OS.
I would almost suggest giving Kenny Dougall a go at RB, but I'm not sure how well that would go down in this forum ;) :P
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+x+x+x+x+xI am not surprised with the 11 aerial duels. Being a Villan I thought a local derby game would be a good match to watch ... but alas both teams were happy lobbing the ball in long from their own half (not far off being a volleyball match). Jedinak's main play was sitting deep in the midfield and kicking any balls that came his way as far up the field as possible (the opposition would then return serve ... it would bounce around a bit then hit back over the net, I mean half way line). I can't see Jedinak keeping his starting spot in the Socceroos given the style of play Villa do ... unless we need a game to sit deep and defend (given Ange's "winning" mentality" I see him becoming a bench player to add steel to the defense when we are up or holding on to a game, unless of course Villa change course and learn to pass the ball to players. seems like Irvine is becoming the better option as he is able to get forward when needed..he can beat a player or two also. luongo is better suited to sit deeper. he plays as a 6 at club. irvine plays as an 8. just because he is tall doesnt mean that they are the same. he might be for QPR.. I just don't he's quick enough or has the size to be a superior #6 to Irvine... yeah he's just consistently rated one of the best in the championship for that position and has 2 awards for qpr's player of the month in a season that's 3 months old. seriously move on from height fixations. What's the regular shape of the QPR central midfield, though? Not saying you're wrong, but I want to establish that it's a similar role before accepting the proposition he's a better CDM than Irvine for the Socceroos.
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+xHaha my dream job is to be a scout, so I'd happily help old mate Ange out ;) Yeah, Jones seems to have a lot of potential and he seems to have a pretty decent reputation. I believe he was captaining the Welsh U-20s or something at some point last year. Plymouth supporters and coach seemed to like him when he was playing there too. From memory they extended his loan and wanted to keep him. My concern with the English system with their junior teams is that it doesn't necessarily translate into being decent/reputable senior players. If players aren't playing first team football by the time they are 20/21, wouldn't that put them at a slight disadvantage to someone who has been in and around seniors since 18? Just looking at Gallifuoco a few years ago as captain of Swansea juniors and winning the title, he was highly regarded, but flopped at MV and is now in the conference. Anyway, that's a tangent. I'll do a little more research and try to find any more RBs playing OS.I would almost suggest giving Kenny Dougall a go at RB, but I'm not sure how well that would go down in this forum ;) :P if i was an young australian def/central mid i would be pushing for a rb spot at my club. it wouldnt take much to get a look into the squad and into a world cup at this point. there are so many defensive and box to box mids around that will be very unlikely to get a spot in our NT, but the rb stocks at the moment are soft. the likes of williams, brillante, amini and even some wings could catch anges attention right now.
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