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http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers. But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat. Cairns Football Club. Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat.
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scott21 wrote:http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490
Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers.
But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat.
Cairns Football Club.
Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat. They came to an arrangement with the council that any stadium would be built in Cairns but i doubt it will happen.
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Its a shame. I think 10000 would be fine and I would like for such a stadium to have permission to use astroturf (given the climate) . I remember we played in Norway against a team in the Royal League when it was still on  Something like this that was indoor, could be used for concerts too and was pretty much connected to the casino would be great. Dont know how much tv revenue a team like that could generate but if they were owned by Aquis they wouldnt have any financial trouble as the guys would most probably be looking for goodwill in the community. Quote:Cairns A-League team could hinge on resort and casino plan If development goes ahead, stadium and team could be funded by Aquis Cairns will host game between Brisbane and Wellington this weekend Far North Queensland Heat played in the FFA Cup in 2014. Far North Queensland Heat played in the FFA Cup in 2014. Photograph: Brendon Thorne/Getty Images Australian Associated Press Thursday 10 December 2015 04.08 GMT Last modified on Thursday 10 December 2015 04.10 GMT Share on Pinterest Share on LinkedIn Share on Google+ Shares 115 Comments 1 Save for later A-League football could yet return to Cairns on a permanent basis if the Queensland Government approves plans for an $8.15 billion integrated resort and casino in the city’s north.
Aquis, the Hong Kong company behind the proposal and the major sponsor of state league team Far North Queensland Heat, is expecting to hear back in February whether Australia’s largest tourism development will receive the green light.
Far North Queensland, where cultures are colliding and football means family Read more If it does, Aquis is understood to be ready to help fund a purpose-built rectangular stadium in Cairns and an A-League bid.
It provides an interesting backdrop as Cairns prepares to host its first ever national league game on Saturday between Brisbane Roar and Wellington Phoenix at Cazalys Stadium.
Money for the A-League bid and the stadium would come from a community benefit fund, bankrolled by Hong Kong billionaire Tony Fung and set up to help sweeten the deal for Aquis.
Aquis became the FNQ Heat’s major sponsor in March 2014, and at the time chief executive Justin Fung publicly declared their intention to help secure Cairns an A-League team.
That commitment has not waivered, despite the approval process for the project having stalled for the last 18 months and recent issues surrounding the junior structures of the FNQ Heat, who play in the Queensland National Premier Leagues and have twice qualified for the FFA Cup.
FNQ Heat chairman Colin Daly said the “context” of the Aquis sponsorship, which expires in February, will be defined by their development approval. “We’re still very much in touch with them,” Daly told AAP.
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FFA’s receptiveness to a Cairns bid is another matter. While the governing body might prefer teams in higher-density urban areas, it would be hard for them to turn away from Aquis’ riches and the opportunity for football to benefit from what is seen as a game-changing development.
Asked if, despite FFA’s clear desire for new teams in major cities, Cairns could support its own A-League team one day, Daly said: “I think it could, certainly at the NPL level and we’d like to think in time at an A-League level - and this is excluding Aquis.”
“If Aquis comes in it’s a laydown misere, they promise it all. I believe this region will become strong and will have more and more ability to do that provided we get the game right here and promote it well collectively.”
Aquis has also purchased resort and casino properties in Canberra and on the Gold Coast and followed those investments by sponsoring Super Rugby’s Brumbies and the NRL’s Titans with rich front-of-shirt deals.
It is understood A-League chief Damien de Bohun met with Aquis representatives last year during a visit to Cairns. Cairns mayor Cr Bob Manning is also pushing for a new rectangular stadium and intends to have one built by the end of his next term if he is re-elected next year. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/10/cairns-a-league-team-could-hinge-on-resort-and-casino-plan?CMP=share_btn_tw I have no problem with astrotruf, the quality these days is amazing plus Cairns would be able to hold concerts and events in there. But most important you would not be affected by weather heat/storms. But no new evidence really and just self promoting because of the A-League match. Edited by scott21: 10/12/2015 10:39:00 PM
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scott21 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:
They came to an arrangement with the council that any stadium would be built in Cairns but i doubt it will happen.
Its a shame. I think 10000 would be fine and I would like for such a stadium to have permission to use astroturf (given the climate) . I remember we played in Norway against a team in the Royal League when it was still on  Something like this that was indoor, could be used for concerts too and was pretty much connected to the casino would be great. Dont know how much tv revenue a team like that could generate but if they were owned by Aquis they wouldnt have any financial trouble as the guys would most probably be looking for goodwill in the community. Nice stadium. Air-conditioned Qatar World Cup 2022 style?
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Its more so you dont freeze. But ac in Cairns would be handy 22c inside and 40c and humid outside :)
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I reckon cairns would be perfect.
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Krusen wrote:walnuts wrote:Buggalugs - you should have listened... wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Yeah I would say that west sydney is a good exception to the rule to have.
But it's probably the only one i'd make. Gosford Mariners ? Now that's an interesting one - do people normally call that part of the world the 'Central Coast' or is it just something that is rarely said? Again, could be an exception that proves the rule sort of thing if it was known as the Central Coast for years before the Mariners turned up. I think the AFL is actually a good example - you've got so many teams named after a specific suburb within the city, yet garner support from everywhere. People just support a team that suits them and their values the best, don't need to pander to them and say 'Actually you can support Richmond FC if you live in Frankston, but just to be sure we're renaming the team to Victoria FC just to be sure' None of the new AFL clubs are named after suburbs. The clubs you are referring to started in the VFL back in 1897. Fremantle. Came into the AFL 1995 iirc.
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TimmyJ wrote:Krusen wrote:walnuts wrote:Buggalugs - you should have listened... wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Yeah I would say that west sydney is a good exception to the rule to have.
But it's probably the only one i'd make. Gosford Mariners ? Now that's an interesting one - do people normally call that part of the world the 'Central Coast' or is it just something that is rarely said? Again, could be an exception that proves the rule sort of thing if it was known as the Central Coast for years before the Mariners turned up. I think the AFL is actually a good example - you've got so many teams named after a specific suburb within the city, yet garner support from everywhere. People just support a team that suits them and their values the best, don't need to pander to them and say 'Actually you can support Richmond FC if you live in Frankston, but just to be sure we're renaming the team to Victoria FC just to be sure' None of the new AFL clubs are named after suburbs. The clubs you are referring to started in the VFL back in 1897. Fremantle. Came into the AFL 1995 iirc. Fremantle is a city not a suburb.
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Freemantle is beautiful. Been twice. But I don't think wa have the support for two teams
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Look at South African consortium for expansion.
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scott21 wrote:http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490
Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers.
But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat.
Cairns Football Club.
Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat. I disagree on a Far North Qld name.It's hard to beat the name FNQ FC.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:scott21 wrote:http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490
Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers.
But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat.
Cairns Football Club.
Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat. I disagree on a Far North Qld name.It's hard to beat the name FNQ FC. :shock: It is literally one of the worse club names in the NPL.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:crimsoncrusoe wrote:scott21 wrote:http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490
Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers.
But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat.
Cairns Football Club.
Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat. I disagree on a Far North Qld name.It's hard to beat the name FNQ FC. :shock: It is literally one of the worse club names in the NPL.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:crimsoncrusoe wrote:scott21 wrote:http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/aquis-concentrates-on-finalising-casino-agreement-for-cairns-project/story-fnjpusdv-1227446342490
Dont know if they have scrapped the stadium idea. It would be good to fund a new A-League team via Chinese gamblers.
But not as Far North Queensland Football Club Heat.
Cairns Football Club.
Drop the orange too and change it to aqua. Also I would recommend using a sea turtle on their emblem. Turtles although cheesy is much better than heat. I disagree on a Far North Qld name.It's hard to beat the name FNQ FC. :shock: It is literally one of the worse club names in the NPL. I have no idea what you mean. FNQHFC TID
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Anyway found this after some research Quote:A new environmental impact statement for the proposed casino and resort north of Cairns reveals serviced apartments have been cut from the design, along with the 25,000-seat sports stadium, amid community concerns. The man-made lake slated as one of the centrepieces for the casino resort project at Yorkeys Knob has been halved to 33 hectares. http://m.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/locals-concern-cuts-aquis-great-barrier-reef-resort-down-to-size/story-fnko7zi0-1226964250135They don't seem that keen if they don't want a free stadium. Edited by scott21: 19/7/2015 04:25:29 PM
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vincenzogold wrote:Freemantle is beautiful. Been twice. But I don't think wa have the support for two teams the Perth CBD population is just over 2 million people now and is only 300,000 behind Brisbane (who the FFA are trying to push a 2nd Brisbane team to come into the League) I still think a 2nd WA team is at least 10 years away but by that time the population would have risen even further. Only way it will work is a North/South divide from the swan river if your going on basic geography. Still don't know what Perth Glory is going to do and where they are moving their headquarters. I feel a 2nd team will be based south but not nessessarily Fremantle. I guess it depends on Football west and how Western Australia responds to the whole of football plan. Population will not be an issue for a 2nd side coming in. It will be how strong the love of football is to warrant it.
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Timmo wrote:vincenzogold wrote:Freemantle is beautiful. Been twice. But I don't think wa have the support for two teams the Perth CBD population is just over 2 million people now and is only 300,000 behind Brisbane (who the FFA are trying to push a 2nd Brisbane team to come into the League) I still think a 2nd WA team is at least 10 years away but by that time the population would have risen even further. Only way it will work is a North/South divide from the swan river if your going on basic geography. Still don't know what Perth Glory is going to do and where they are moving their headquarters. I feel a 2nd team will be based south but not nessessarily Fremantle. I guess it depends on Football west and how Western Australia responds to the whole of football plan. Population will not be an issue for a 2nd side coming in. It will be how strong the love of football is to warrant it. Personally I think with both Brisbane and Perth struggling to maintain 1 team each the population of both may not be enough. I'd also be curious if a 2nd Brisbane team might be based on the overall QLD population (4.6 v 2.6 in a more compact area) and might signal that regional QLD teams are out of the short term thinking. That said, a 2nd Perth based side might be whats need to re-invigorate the latent Glory fanbase. Have to work on the North / South divide, although there's a reasonable argument for basing a team in Joondalup given I think the Northern suburbs are a stronger football area.
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RoyalDave wrote:Timmo wrote:vincenzogold wrote:Freemantle is beautiful. Been twice. But I don't think wa have the support for two teams the Perth CBD population is just over 2 million people now and is only 300,000 behind Brisbane (who the FFA are trying to push a 2nd Brisbane team to come into the League) I still think a 2nd WA team is at least 10 years away but by that time the population would have risen even further. Only way it will work is a North/South divide from the swan river if your going on basic geography. Still don't know what Perth Glory is going to do and where they are moving their headquarters. I feel a 2nd team will be based south but not nessessarily Fremantle. I guess it depends on Football west and how Western Australia responds to the whole of football plan. Population will not be an issue for a 2nd side coming in. It will be how strong the love of football is to warrant it. Personally I think with both Brisbane and Perth struggling to maintain 1 team each the population of both may not be enough. I'd also be curious if a 2nd Brisbane team might be based on the overall QLD population (4.6 v 2.6 in a more compact area) and might signal that regional QLD teams are out of the short term thinking. That said, a 2nd Perth based side might be whats need to re-invigorate the latent Glory fanbase. Have to work on the North / South divide, although there's a reasonable argument for basing a team in Joondalup given I think the Northern suburbs are a stronger football area. I thought Joondalup was being considered as a training base to house Perth Glory and its youth and womens teams setups. Has that now fallen through. Hence why I thought a southern team would be the logical choice.
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South East Qld has a population of 3 million, whereas "greater Perth" is only about 2m.
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Timmo wrote:RoyalDave wrote:Timmo wrote:vincenzogold wrote:Freemantle is beautiful. Been twice. But I don't think wa have the support for two teams the Perth CBD population is just over 2 million people now and is only 300,000 behind Brisbane (who the FFA are trying to push a 2nd Brisbane team to come into the League) I still think a 2nd WA team is at least 10 years away but by that time the population would have risen even further. Only way it will work is a North/South divide from the swan river if your going on basic geography. Still don't know what Perth Glory is going to do and where they are moving their headquarters. I feel a 2nd team will be based south but not nessessarily Fremantle. I guess it depends on Football west and how Western Australia responds to the whole of football plan. Population will not be an issue for a 2nd side coming in. It will be how strong the love of football is to warrant it. Personally I think with both Brisbane and Perth struggling to maintain 1 team each the population of both may not be enough. I'd also be curious if a 2nd Brisbane team might be based on the overall QLD population (4.6 v 2.6 in a more compact area) and might signal that regional QLD teams are out of the short term thinking. That said, a 2nd Perth based side might be whats need to re-invigorate the latent Glory fanbase. Have to work on the North / South divide, although there's a reasonable argument for basing a team in Joondalup given I think the Northern suburbs are a stronger football area. I thought Joondalup was being considered as a training base to house Perth Glory and its youth and womens teams setups. Has that now fallen through. Hence why I thought a southern team would be the logical choice. Was a proposal to have a training base at Percy Doyle reserve in Duncraig (where Sorrento play). Not sure what latest is as Brewer was driving it. Even if it goes ahead, it wouldn't/shouldn't impact on a proper consideration of where a geographically based 2nd Perth team should be located, especially as both would play their games at nib anyway. The northern suburbs are a much better option for support and growth than the retirement rustbelt of Rockingham/Mandurah.
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I'd love to see a Fremantle/Perth or north vs south rivarly but cannot see it being feasible anytime soon. And not sure where you could base a team south of the river. I live just South of the River and I will always identify myself and relate more with the CBD or just North before a place that represents places like Rockingham/Mandurah/Armadale and even Bunbury/Busselton.
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soil wrote:I'd love to see a Fremantle/Perth or north vs south rivarly but cannot see it being feasible anytime soon. And not sure where you could base a team south of the river. I live just South of the River and I will always identify myself and relate more with the CBD or just North before a place that represents places like Rockingham/Mandurah/Armadale and even Bunbury/Busselton.
You would have to give it at least 10-15 years before even seriously contemplating it surely.
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Quote:[size=9]Geelong region leads the nation with booming football registration numbers[/size]THE Greater Geelong region is not only leading Victoria in the overall growth of football player registration in the state, it is also eclipsing the national rate! Data released earlier this month has revealed the total number of registered football players in the ‘City by the Bay’ has risen an astounding 16.88 percent in the last 12 months and an overall 22 percent in the past three years. According to the FFV Zone Development Officer for the Wimmera/South Coast region (which incorporates the wider Geelong area), so far this year, a total of 3,372 players have registered to take part in the sport, compared to last year’s total of 2,885. “This growth in the Greater Geelong region is by far the biggest percentage increase in the state. At the moment, the approximate total increase in the state is in excess of 10 percent, which includes all the eight FFV regional zones, as well as the Melbourne metropolitan region. We are more than six percentage points above that. “In fact, not only is Geelong doing better than the state average, we are also leading the way nationally, with the unofficial national growth rate somewhere about half of the Victorian state figure,” Kyprian said. According to the data provided, the most significant growth has been detected in the Junior’s category (12-18 years) with an incredible 27.62% increase in registrations. However, in an indication that numbers are set to grow even more in years to come, the growth in the 5-11 age category (the Miniroos) is also substantial at 16.07%. “Further to that, with the success of the Australian Matildas at the recently concluded FIFA Women’s World Cup, I am of the opinion that the numbers of girls and women playing the sport are set to soar over the next 12 months,” concluded Kyprian. source Whilst raw numbers are obviously lower than other regions, it's quite clear that Geelong and the surrounding area is a booming footballing centre - also gives another team in the Melbourne area with a clear identity. Food for thought.
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Nice re Geelong. This was posted on the Expand the A-League facebook page the other day: Edited by paladisious: 22/7/2015 02:17:51 PM
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paladisious wrote:Nice re Geelong. This was posted on the Expand the A-League facebook page the other day: Edited by paladisious: 22/7/2015 02:17:51 PM They have far too much time on their hands.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:I've been harping on about this for years now, but Geelong NEEDS to be the next team in line for expansion.
Back on the Perth topic, is there anyone here that can offer an insight toward the current demographic of Glory supporters, and where you feel the club would be best suited on basing itself in the event of further WA expansion? No particular demographic concentration in location or ethnicity. The northern suburbs are a hotbed for football growth and there is still a strong support base in the south from Rockingham and surrounds, particularly in the Shed. IMO would be best to be based in the northern suburbs, not because Glory is centred in the south (it isn't) but because this would provide the best opportunity for growth (massive population growth in cities of Wanneroo, Stirling and Joondalup) and links with the local football community. Northern suburbs: NPL clubs - ECU Joondalup, Sorrento State League: Joondalup City, Joondalup United, Quinns, Olympic Kingsway, Wanneroo City, Ellenbrook At least 8-10 years away though particularly given Perth Glory's inability to do anything right.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:I've been harping on about this for years now, but Geelong NEEDS to be the next team in line for expansion.
Back on the Perth topic, is there anyone here that can offer an insight toward the current demographic of Glory supporters, and where you feel the club would be best suited on basing itself in the event of further WA expansion? Its hard t know what reliance the FFA gave the Arabs. Perhaps they were promised x amount of years before a new Victorian team could enter the competition. As there is no real guideline as to what a new team needs to have/be. This fish fishing could mean Melbourne as it would create more "derbies" plus there would be an automatic rivalry all three ways. How much does Geelong AFL feature on Melbourne news? Surely Geelong A-League would be in all the Melbourne media? Perth is a no brainer. No. Edited by scott21: 23/7/2015 12:26:15 AM
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scott21 wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:I've been harping on about this for years now, but Geelong NEEDS to be the next team in line for expansion.
Back on the Perth topic, is there anyone here that can offer an insight toward the current demographic of Glory supporters, and where you feel the club would be best suited on basing itself in the event of further WA expansion? Its hard t know what reliance the FFA gave the Arabs. Perhaps they were promised x amount of years before a new Victorian team could enter the competition. As there is no real guideline as to what a new team needs to have/be. This fish fishing could mean Melbourne as it would create more "derbies" plus there would be an automatic rivalry all three ways. How much does Geelong AFL feature on Melbourne news? Surely Geelong A-League would be in all the Melbourne media? Perth is a no brainer. No. Out of the 10 or so Victorian AFL teams Geelong is easily in the top 4. It would be very hard to crack Edited by scott21: 23/7/2015 12:26:15 AM
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