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Good to see some work being done up in North Queensland. IMO, this is how all clubs should start off (regional clubs at least) getting a solid base of at least 5k to commit to memberships and have a youth team in place.
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Nice to see the Fury developing the backbone of a club culture irrespective of A-League admittance. Will stand them in good stead in the future.
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meeting with the ffa, seems to be the first sign of expansion of the a-league in the gallop era.
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Quote: What we're saying to FFA is, what's it going to take? If they tell us you need a, b and c, then we'll know what we have to deliver." Apparently it is highly desirable to have a population base in the millions or close thereto. That could be a bit of a challenge.
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Quote:Northern Fury chairman Rabieh Krayem and coach Ian Ferguson to meet with FFA chief executive David Gallop and A-league boss Damien de Bohun.
NORTHERN Fury chairman Rabieh Krayem said they want to find out what they'll have to achieve to get a National Youth League and W-League team in the region first up when they meet with Football Federation Australia boss David Gallop.
Krayem and the club's coach and technical director Ian Ferguson, a former A-league coach with the Fury and Perth Glory, will meet Gallop and A-league head Damien de Bohun in Sydney on Thursday evening.
While outlining their ambitions to eventually return to the men's top flight, Krayem said their first objective was to find out how they could bring elite junior and women's football to the North.
"I think you've got to start with baby steps," Krayem said.
"For us it's working through what we need to and for us our priority is to have a youth league and a women's league team.
"We think that's an achievable process.
"Out of that, then you lay the foundations for the next stage.
"We're not ready for an A-league license today but we're ready to lay stepping stones towards how we get a youth league and women's league team.
"The key here at the moment, the numbers in our women's program are incredible.
"For us, to have a women's team playing in a national team competition is just as important as having a youth league to give these young ladies the chance to play at the highest level without leaving home."
Krayem said it was their first meeting with the FFA bosses and it was important for the strength of football in the area that they try to restore high level competition.
"Knowing that football in this region is still as strong and it's important that we give people who have the aspirations to have elite programs in this region," he said.
"If not the game will go backwards."
Meanwhile the club has confirmed a pre-season match against the Far North Queensland Heat on February 8 at Murray Park. http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-sport/northern-fury-chairman-rabieh-krayem-and-coach-ian-ferguson-to-meet-with-ffa-chief-executive-david-gallop-and-aleague-boss-damien-de-bohun/story-fnjfzs15-1226807659313Quote:Simon Says: Plans being made to reinstate expansion North Queensland Fury into the A-League WHEN, and more importantly, where, is the right place to expand the Hyundai A-League? It's a question that has spawned a thousand articles and debates. But if the football community of Townsville has its way, it'll be a case of back to the future by 2018 at the latest, with a very familiar name re-entering the fray. Northern Fury has kept the football dream alive in the far north, after the region's A-League club was disbanded in 2011. Fury currently compete in the National Premier Leagues (Queensland) - but on Thursday, they will meet informally with FFA in Sydney, where they hope to be given a framework, to work towards regaining their senior league place. Football romantics will also be pleased to learn that they plan to return to their old name. "We've done some research, which shows that they (Fury fans) would like to have North Queensland back in the name. We're looking at it for next year. Internally, the feedback we have (from FFA, which owns the name), is that they wouldn't have an issue with it, or the logo and colours, which we already use," says Chairman, Rabieh Krayem. Aside of the name change, the next stage in Fury's plan is to gain admittance into both the National Youth League and W-League, in time for the 2015-2016 season. "They would (both) cost $1 million - we're capable of doing that. We need to give a pathway to the young players in North Queensland. We don't want an A-League licence today, but we do need a vision as to where the game is going." says Krayem. Football Queensland are supportive of the Fury's plans, and have already held discussions with the governing body. Thursday's meeting is to test the waters still further. "David Gallop was a strong supporter of the Cowboys when he was with the NRL, so we're hopeful. With the Fury, it's about open dialogue. We know that we need to prove we can be financially viable, but when the next expansion phase comes in - in line with the next TV deal - we want to be discussed at the very least," says Krayem. In the meantime, Fury believes it is building the club in the right way - from the grassroots up. Averaging around 2,400 at the Townsville Sports Reserve last year, Fury say they have sold more merchandising than all the other NPL (Queensland) clubs combined. Next week, Fury launches a membership program for the first time, which, Krayem says, will aim for numbers of around 5,000 within two years. The club has re-appointed Ian Ferguson as its senior coach, while behind the scenes, former FFA head of corporate and public affairs, Bonita Mersiades, has also joined in their push towards re-admittance. Expansion isn't officially on the FFA timetable - at least not publicly - but it seems reasonable to expect that, by 2018, the game will be looking at pushing into new markets once more. Geelong, Wollongong, Canberra, Tasmania will all have their supporters when the time comes - perhaps even other areas of Queensland - but Krayem believes there can be only one choice. "There's no doubt Queensland deserves two A-League clubs, given the size of the state. We're trying to earn the right to have a team again by developing the foundations, which we didn't do last time. What we're saying to FFA is, what's it going to take? If they tell us you need a, b and c, then we'll know what we have to deliver." says Krayem. By Thursday evening, they may know a little more - and North Queensland Fury may be a working entity once again, three years after it disappeared out of the lexicon, seemingly never to return. Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au//football/a-league/simon-says-plans-being-made-to-reinstate-expansion-north-queensland-fury-into-the-aleague/story-e6frf4gl-1226806412802#ixzz2r7QemqiH Edited by iridium1010: 23/1/2014 12:14:48 AM
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Eastern Glory wrote:Gyfox wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Wollongong 2015 or it'll fail. Are you providing the FFA's part of the funding? ;) Asian Cup revenue... If that's a thing? Whatever profit is made is shared with the Governments that are underwriting it. Wouldn't expect there to be much left.
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I still don't see how the AFL, NRL and Super Rugby are rivals of the A-League and football?
The Super Rugby starts in Mid Feb
AFL Mid-Late March and NRL Mid March
While A-league starts with weeks remaining of the AFL and NRL and come to an end in May with at more 3 months of clashing weekends.
I personally support 3 codes of the 4 and that 1 i don't support is purely due to the travel and slowly been pulled away from the sport.
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Gyfox wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Wollongong 2015 or it'll fail. Are you providing the FFA's part of the funding? ;) Asian Cup revenue... If that's a thing?
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Eastern Glory wrote:Wollongong 2015 or it'll fail. 
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Eastern Glory wrote:Wollongong 2015 or it'll fail. Are you providing the FFA's part of the funding? ;)
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Wollongong 2015 or it'll fail.
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I can see co branding with the cats working. You could offer discounts to AFL cats Members for a membership to the football team. Better still a package that could include a seat a both the AFL and Football Cats games.
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The Maco wrote:Would people be against a Geelong team being set up with the AFL Geelong? Similar in a way to the jets and knights
or calling the team geelong city/fc with the official nickname the cats like stoke city, like some people have suggested the roar to change As a member of the Cats, I'd love for it to happen - the Blue and White hoops are synomonous with the town, and so it'd be natural for any football team representing the city to wear them too. Also opens up sharing facilities at Simonds Stadium, meaning it would get year round use (which the council would love). Lot of positives that I can see, and I reckon the Cats leadership would be open to it - the big question is whether the fats cats at the AFL (Demetriou and co) would allow it. I highly doubt it, because it would mean they'd be helping a rival code.
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The Maco wrote:Would people be against a Geelong team being set up with the AFL Geelong? Similar in a way to the jets and knights
or calling the team geelong city/fc with the official nickname the cats like stoke city, like some people have suggested the roar to change I for one would think it'd be worth co-branding, Blue and White hoops, the works. Not sure if co-ownership is possible or desirable given the legalities of the AFL team, but both parties should see the merit in cooperating where possible.
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Would people be against a Geelong team being set up with the AFL Geelong? Similar in a way to the jets and knights
or calling the team geelong city/fc with the official nickname the cats like stoke city, like some people have suggested the roar to change
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paladisious wrote:Also on Geelong, it's been known that after their first season of operation their board will be open to changing the name to public demand, just hope they don't go with something worse! huh, wtf?
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Also on Geelong, it's been known that after their first season of operation their board will be open to changing the name to public demand, just hope they don't go with something worse!
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Brisbane Ro wrote:Decazz wrote:Can we stop with the 'galaxy' name...its fucking terrible Probably works better if the team is full of 'stars' like LA Galaxy or the Galacticos. Could've worked for the Gold Coast, if Clive hadn't been such a monumental tool. The Galaxy was originally in reference to all the stars in Hollywood, but who would have guessed the MLS team ended up signing one of the most famous people on the planet themselves?
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geelong: warriors, knights or cum guzzlers are all far more acceptable
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voodoo330 wrote:My hope for the 20th anniversary of the A - League: Season 2024-2025.
Is this just a dream? The numbers denoted would be the membership numbers.
NSW/ACT
Western Sydney Wanderers - Parramatta Stadium - 25k
Sydney FC - Allianz Stadium - 20k
Newcastle Jets - Hunter Stadium - 15k
Central Coast Mariners - Bluetongue Stadium - 10k
South Coast Wolves - WIN Stadium - 10k
Canberra United - Canberra Stadium - 10k
Victoria
Melbourne Victory - Etihad Stadium - 30k
Melbourne Heart - Aami Park - 10k
Geelong Galaxy FC - Simonds Stadium - 10k
Queensland
Brisbane Roar - Suncorp Stadium - 20k
Western Pride - North Ipswich Oval - 10k
Northern Fury - Willows Sports Complex - 10k
South Australia
Adelaide United - Hindmarsh Stadium - 10k
Western Australia
Perth Glory - NIB Stadium - 10k
New Zealand
Auckland City - Mount Smart Stadium - 10k
Wellington Phoenix - Westpac Stadium - 10k
This would total a 13,750 membership average. If the season's average attendance totals somewhere between 15k to 20k, that would be a phenomenal effort. Also hopefully the confederations of AFC/OFC will merge by then. A 16 team league playing 30 home and away games, with a top 8 post season playoff format would be ideal. Thoughts? If we're gonna fish where the fish are, needs more Gold Coast. Probably at the expense of Fury.
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Gee,long Willies
Geelong Timenosees
Edited by Angus: 19/1/2014 09:59:27 AM
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Decazz wrote:Can we stop with the 'galaxy' name...its fucking terrible Probably works better if the team is full of 'stars' like LA Galaxy or the Galacticos. Could've worked for the Gold Coast, if Clive hadn't been such a monumental tool.
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Decazz wrote:voodoo330 wrote:My hope for the 20th anniversary of the A - League: Season 2024-2025.
Is this just a dream? The numbers denoted would be the membership numbers.
NSW/ACT
Western Sydney Wanderers - Parramatta Stadium - 25k
Sydney FC - Allianz Stadium - 20k
Newcastle Jets - Hunter Stadium - 15k
Central Coast Mariners - Bluetongue Stadium - 10k
South Coast Wolves - WIN Stadium - 10k
Canberra United - Canberra Stadium - 10k
Victoria
Melbourne Victory - Etihad Stadium - 30k
Melbourne Heart - Aami Park - 10k
Geelong Galaxy FC - Simonds Stadium - 10k
Queensland
Brisbane Roar - Suncorp Stadium - 20k
Western Pride - North Ipswich Oval - 10k
Northern Fury - Willows Sports Complex - 10k
South Australia
Adelaide United - Hindmarsh Stadium - 10k
Western Australia
Perth Glory - NIB Stadium - 10k
New Zealand
Auckland City - Mount Smart Stadium - 10k
Wellington Phoenix - Westpac Stadium - 10k
This would total a 13,750 membership average. If the season's average attendance totals somewhere between 15k to 20k, that would be a phenomenal effort. Also hopefully the confederations of AFC/OFC will merge by then. A 16 team league playing 30 home and away games, with a top 8 post season playoff format would be ideal. Thoughts? Can we stop with the 'galaxy' name...its fucking terrible Better than 'Jellies'.
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voodoo330 wrote:My hope for the 20th anniversary of the A - League: Season 2024-2025.
Is this just a dream? The numbers denoted would be the membership numbers.
NSW/ACT
Western Sydney Wanderers - Parramatta Stadium - 25k
Sydney FC - Allianz Stadium - 20k
Newcastle Jets - Hunter Stadium - 15k
Central Coast Mariners - Bluetongue Stadium - 10k
South Coast Wolves - WIN Stadium - 10k
Canberra United - Canberra Stadium - 10k
Victoria
Melbourne Victory - Etihad Stadium - 30k
Melbourne Heart - Aami Park - 10k
Geelong Galaxy FC - Simonds Stadium - 10k
Queensland
Brisbane Roar - Suncorp Stadium - 20k
Western Pride - North Ipswich Oval - 10k
Northern Fury - Willows Sports Complex - 10k
South Australia
Adelaide United - Hindmarsh Stadium - 10k
Western Australia
Perth Glory - NIB Stadium - 10k
New Zealand
Auckland City - Mount Smart Stadium - 10k
Wellington Phoenix - Westpac Stadium - 10k
This would total a 13,750 membership average. If the season's average attendance totals somewhere between 15k to 20k, that would be a phenomenal effort. Also hopefully the confederations of AFC/OFC will merge by then. A 16 team league playing 30 home and away games, with a top 8 post season playoff format would be ideal. Thoughts? Can we stop with the 'galaxy' name...its fucking terrible
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My hope for the 20th anniversary of the A - League: Season 2024-2025.
Is this just a dream? The numbers denoted would be the membership numbers.
NSW/ACT
Western Sydney Wanderers - Parramatta Stadium - 25k
Sydney FC - Allianz Stadium - 20k
Newcastle Jets - Hunter Stadium - 15k
Central Coast Mariners - Bluetongue Stadium - 10k
South Coast Wolves - WIN Stadium - 10k
Canberra United - Canberra Stadium - 10k
Victoria
Melbourne Victory - Etihad Stadium - 30k
Melbourne Heart - Aami Park - 10k
Geelong Galaxy FC - Simonds Stadium - 10k
Queensland
Brisbane Roar - Suncorp Stadium - 20k
Western Pride - North Ipswich Oval - 10k
Northern Fury - Willows Sports Complex - 10k
South Australia
Adelaide United - Hindmarsh Stadium - 10k
Western Australia
Perth Glory - NIB Stadium - 10k
New Zealand
Auckland City - Mount Smart Stadium - 10k
Wellington Phoenix - Westpac Stadium - 10k
This would total a 13,750 membership average. If the season's average attendance totals somewhere between 15k to 20k, that would be a phenomenal effort. Also hopefully the confederations of AFC/OFC will merge by then. A 16 team league playing 30 home and away games, with a top 8 post season playoff format would be ideal. Thoughts?
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paladisious wrote:Gyfox wrote:paulc wrote:Investing in a Geelong Croatia entity is akin to investing in Balkan stage coach shares.
The above report clearly shows how one of the Qld population centres is surging ahead. Unlike Geelong that are about to lose hundreds of jobs at Ford affecting thousands.
Like I said, Qld is going up and Vic down. The priorities are clear.
Edited by paulc: 17/1/2014 01:52:26 PM The latest projections for the G21 Region based on Geelong is for a population of 400k in 2031. The latest ABS High Series projection for Townsville in 2031 is 325k. You shouldn't believe all you read in the papers. ;) You shouldn't read anything by paulc, full stop. It's unbelievable that the mods have just allowed his racist bullshit to continue to be posted
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paladisious wrote:Gyfox wrote:paulc wrote:Investing in a Geelong Croatia entity is akin to investing in Balkan stage coach shares.
The above report clearly shows how one of the Qld population centres is surging ahead. Unlike Geelong that are about to lose hundreds of jobs at Ford affecting thousands.
Like I said, Qld is going up and Vic down. The priorities are clear.
Edited by paulc: 17/1/2014 01:52:26 PM The latest projections for the G21 Region based on Geelong is for a population of 400k in 2031. The latest ABS High Series projection for Townsville in 2031 is 325k. You shouldn't believe all you read in the papers. ;) You shouldn't read anything by paulc, full stop. :lol:
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Gyfox wrote:paulc wrote:Investing in a Geelong Croatia entity is akin to investing in Balkan stage coach shares.
The above report clearly shows how one of the Qld population centres is surging ahead. Unlike Geelong that are about to lose hundreds of jobs at Ford affecting thousands.
Like I said, Qld is going up and Vic down. The priorities are clear.
Edited by paulc: 17/1/2014 01:52:26 PM The latest projections for the G21 Region based on Geelong is for a population of 400k in 2031. The latest ABS High Series projection for Townsville in 2031 is 325k. You shouldn't believe all you read in the papers. ;) That article might have been referring to only the inner urban Geelong population. Add in the peninsula, which is officially governed by Geelong, and the population is much larger. Add in G21 and it becomes huge!
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Gyfox wrote:paulc wrote:Investing in a Geelong Croatia entity is akin to investing in Balkan stage coach shares.
The above report clearly shows how one of the Qld population centres is surging ahead. Unlike Geelong that are about to lose hundreds of jobs at Ford affecting thousands.
Like I said, Qld is going up and Vic down. The priorities are clear.
Edited by paulc: 17/1/2014 01:52:26 PM The latest projections for the G21 Region based on Geelong is for a population of 400k in 2031. The latest ABS High Series projection for Townsville in 2031 is 325k. You shouldn't believe all you read in the papers. ;) You shouldn't read anything by paulc, full stop.
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walnuts wrote:Reedy wrote:walnuts wrote:MikeDude wrote:Gyfox wrote:MikeDude wrote:paladisious wrote:MikeDude wrote:Gyfox wrote:paladisious wrote:Brisbane Ro wrote:wtf is Barwon? :lol: It's a river that flows through Geelong, and not through most of the other parts of the area. Even if people in a potential Geelong club's catchment area from the Bellarine and outlying areas to Geelong's west don't see themselves as part of Geelong, they're gonna be fully cognisant of the fact that Geelong is the biggest population centre in their area and will support that team regardless of the name. Edited by paladisious: 13/1/2014 06:32:33 PM The regions water supply is run by Barwon Water and there is Barwon Health as well so many would identify with the name but I'm not sure that their respective regions cover the whole catchment of a club based in Geelong. Haha, don't forget Barwon prison! ;) Yeah it probably will end up being called Geelong (if a team ever forms here). I was just trying to think outside the box a little bit to encompass the Bellarine and Surf Coast. On second thought, better check with these guys. ;) At least if Geelong ever put in a bid for an A-League license they already have a stadium ready to go. Kardinia may be the wrong shape, but it's probably going to be easier to use that than build one from scratch for the bid. I know the Geelong Cats obviously use it too, but I've just checked and they'll only play 4 matches during the remainer of the A-League season, so there isn't much overlap at all. The two can easily be scheduled around each other. Plus the stadium is owned by Geelong council, so there shouldn't be any discrepancy. I remember reading somewhere that Eastern Park just of Limeburner's Rd (?) had been identified as a site for a boutique stadium. I read that too. It'd have a decent view, like Bluetongue Stadium. But the hardest part is building it. No rugby in Geelong, so no existing rectangular stadium. Unless a joint Geelong football/rugby taskforce got together... If I had my way, I'd love for it to be built on the site of the current Shell refinery (for those of you unaware, the refinery is being sold). -Large tract of flat land: check (would've thought it'd make it easier to build on, not to mention it's large enough you could have the training headquarters there too - one stop shop for the club with training facilities and the stadium) -Right next to public transport: check (Corio railway station is right there - it would need to be upgraded, yes, but the existing rail infrastructure is already in place. A walkway system similar to Etihad and Southern Cross right into the stadium would be perfect!) -Proximity to bogans: check (if WSW have proven anything, it's that bogans love their sport - with the stadium built in Corio and servicing directly Corio, Norlane and North Shore etc, one would hope it'd bring a lot of them through the gates.) -Right near the freeway: check (easy access for people from the Western Suburbs of Melbourne should they wish to follow the team) -Gorgeous location right on the bay: check (currently it looks all industrial, but it is slowly dying off and being redeveloped - will be like Docklands in 50 years time. What better place to put a stadium!?) Just my 2c, but I'd just love for a team in the city lol. Gyfox has constantly referred to the need for stadiums to be built in centralised areas that have that are close to pubs/restaurants etc. Does Corio meet this requirement? If they are going to build a new stadium and upgrade transport around it, the government would want to see some money going back into the economy somewhere else, the same way Parra/SFS has a bunch of pubs/restaurants around it that get filled every match day. Unless Frank Lowy leaves a lot of money to the game, can't see new stadiums being built anytime soon. (Based on those pics paladisious posted, Kardinia actually looks decent) As it stands at this point in time, no. However, won't always be the case - lots of spare land that hasn't been allowed to be built on due to various safety requirement around the refinery. With that gone, there is no reason why that land can't be built on and in turn, revitalised in to a restaurant/pub area, servicing the stadium. Fuck all out there currently, would imagine the residents in the suburbs around there would like something like that instead of trudging in to the CBD and whatnot. Not to mention the train line right in the heart of it already means that people can pop in and out pretty easily from wherever - that's half the battle, is getting people there! I agree this is all 'pie-in-the-sky' thinking and won't happen unless a billionaire gets particularly generous - however, it's got a lot of things going for it and, unlike many other areas in Geelong, it's essentially a blank slate as far as I can see. There isn't really anything there that would impede the development of a 'football and cultural area' for Geelong - it's just been unused industrial land for so long and the football club could really stop people looking towards the surfcoast (LOTS of development occurring down towards Torquay) and focus on Geelong again. Definitely a lot of growth! Huge long-term potential in Geelong. I figure that there are other more deserving cities out there who would benefit from an A-League license first, but I'd slot Geelong in at being team #14 or #15 in the comp.
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