Geelong is an ALF city and would do anything for that sport or other Tardish bogan sports like Big Bash but not sockah. So forget any fruitful ground assistance from that city. The only football support of significance (if you an call it that) is from the Croatian community and we all know how that will turn out. Forget Geelong as it will never happen.

I agree.

I don't think the support is really there.The market just seems to be driven by other sports, with a smaller base for our game. That's not exactly a recipe for success. A couple of games a year at most could work for MH to play there, as even the AFL team play a few matches in Melbourne each season.

As an oval though, it actually looks like a field would actually be one of the better fits around, with distances not that bad.

The crowd at Tassie isn't going to help them get a team.

i would give canberra and wollongong wolves priority over tasmania atm.

Edited by williamn: 12/1/2013 07:24:27 PM

We need a red bull team. North Queensland/Gold Coast Red Bulls anyone?

if red bull had a large marketing kitty and are willing to spend it on the gold coast, then id like to see it happen

+1. It seems like the perfect fit.

We're hardly in a position to knock them back, if they were willing to start up a new club, that is. As I posted before, the perfect fit from their point of view would be Wanderers as it's an established club in a recognisable city that will need an owner.

if they were to come to the a-league, they are better off being productive and invest in running a new club than changing the jersey and values which are already present in western sydney

Gold Coast would be perfect from basically all areas.

Never in a million years will the fans allow Red Bull to takeover.

Tasmania has gone down a rung in my book, unless Hobart can somehow justify a full season..

Wollongong
Canberra
Auckland
North Queensland

Hobart might draw 1-2k more than in Launceston. One of the advantages any club has using Aurora is that the Government give a clean stadium at virtually no cost.

Not Tasmania.

Ah didnt know that... good deal then. Wonder if Launceston will get behind their own team

I agree entirely with gabgabgab and william, it would be much better if they were willing to invest in starting a franchise, and that the glitz of the Glitter Strip would be a good fit, but of course I was saying what would be their point of view based on their history.

I'm sure some New York fans said the same.

agreed with this.

this is my optimistic view of how i wish the a-league can develop into a 20 team competition over the long term, all in expansions pairs and the sort of rivalry they can optimistically produce

11. wollongong wolves (perth glory: nsl derby)
12. canberra (wellington phoenix: capital derby)
13. auckland (wellington phoenix: nz derby)
14. northern fury (brisbane roar: qld derby)
15. tasmania (initially based in hobart) (only in a new rectangular stadium)
16. geelong (only in a new rectangular stadium)(small rivalry with the 2 other melbourne teams)
-long pause-
17. 4th victorian team in dandenong/south-east suburbs Dandenong Thunder?
18. christchurch (small rivalry with the other 2 nz teams)
19. launceston fc (split tasmania into hobart___) (develop a tasmanian derby)
20. gold coast city

that is what i wish to see, most would disagree somewhere on 17-20 but that is what i think would allow a great addition to the a-league. I believe the split between east and west can really develop in sydney and no further expansions in penrith, blacktown etc could provoke the sort of passion there presently is for western sydney wanderers.

I have my doubts of gold coast ever being sustainable in the a-league, but if someone with vision was to develop a brand which embraces gc culture, and positions a new 15,000 seat stadium in and around surfers paradise where the streets are packed during summer, then things could go off.

just again, reminding that this is all my wishful thinking

Edited by williamn: 12/1/2013 10:31:45 PM

The Wanderer name is the only thing that should be not negotiable. As for the rest of it - FFA owns WSW and will sell it with or without the fans' consent.

Kids... :lol: :lol:

Pretty much agree with you although I'm not sure if number 17 would work. I'd also push Gold Coast a bit further up.

Tasmania will struggle to find funding for one club. It will never be able to support two. Unlike other states Tasmania is not centralised. Slightly over half of the population lives in the north of the state. The idea of starting a club in Hobart for all the state to support without playing regular games in the North will not work either. It would remain a Hobart club supported in the main by Hobartians.

As I've said before - Red Bull wanted in a few years ago and the FFA tried to steer them toward Fury, but the company was only interested in an 'iconic' city (they wanted to couple the name Red Bull with the imagery of Sydney Harbour bridge) - as red Bull weren't interested in any other team and Sydney was already in secure hands the FFA (correctly) saw no point in continuing with Red Bull.

It's unfortunate - because you would have thought Red Bull would have been able to get some advertising/marketing benefit from playing up the Land Down Under northern/outback (I know it's not 'out back' but we're talking world marketing here) concept.

I can see a good relationship between Gold Coast and red bull marketing wise. they're the best party king city they could reach themselves out to

Really like this idea. Takes the number of teams to 14 and love the idea of another Perth/Wollongong rivalry. I think the Fury will work if given another chance.

Edited by takethemickey: 13/1/2013 12:04:20 PM

yeah ffa can sell western sydney so make it red bull wanderers, but i guarentee you, that they will loose at least half of the current supporters. hell i wouldnt support them anymore and i waited 8 years for a western sydney team.
would the gold coast really hop on board with a red bull team? not to sure

For those wanting to make either positive or negative comment on the possibility of a Tasmanian team you really need to read the Business Plan prepared by Coffey so you understand the market as well as possible. It is interesting that the Tasmania United Taskforce although acknowledging the usefulness of the document rejected its recommendations of the club being merged with FFT and being underwritten by the Government.

http://www.sportandrecreation.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/39821/Sc1423_Final_Report_v4_-_Public_Release.pdf

My personal feeling is that the A-League like the NRL & AFL are getting too big for the smaller regional areas, hence why no AFL side in Tasmania & NRL side in central coast. The likes of Canberra & Nth Queensland may be the smallest they will go, instead looking at Auckland, 2nd Brisbane side (including Gold Coast or Sunshine coast), 3rd Sydney southern side including Wollongong & 3rd melbourne side including geelong for example. But some of these are many years down the track.

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I do too, especially if this gets built

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2011/08/27/261391_news.html

anyone from NQ know what the situation is with this? Is it going ahead?

I like Townsville in that it has a booming population....it will reach 200k people this year and overtake Hobart in the next 10 years

I really think a 30k seater stadium is way too big for a team based in Townsville but that is an issue with Dairy Farmers anyway. Most certainly an in town stadium gets better patronage than an out of town stadium.