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			    jparraga wrote:Sami Hyypia (Bayer Leverkusen's manager) has been sacked, wonder if this will have any influence on the transfer.  I imagine it would. A big shame for the guy if it has.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    thupercoach wrote:pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.   :lol: how did you leave Vedran out of that list?  Good god no, Vedran is in a different class. I don't believe he's cost us points this season but has won us plenty.  Birrighitti's distribution is a bit better though.   Vedran is 4 years older than Biraz. And let us not forget his flap at Craig Goodwin's freekick last season :lol:  Very, very long since forgotten, Vedran has been great this season. MB has very long way to go before he redeems himself and gets anywhere near Vedran's quality.   Birraz has been inconsistent this season but was very good last year. His decision making and positioning are at times lacking but he has still made many great saves. He's still better than Vedran                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.   :lol: how did you leave Vedran out of that list?  Good god no, Vedran is in a different class. I don't believe he's cost us points this season but has won us plenty.  Birrighitti's distribution is a bit better though.   Vedran is 4 years older than Biraz. And let us not forget his flap at Craig Goodwin's freekick last season :lol:  Very, very long since forgotten, Vedran has been great this season. MB has very long way to go before he redeems himself and gets anywhere near Vedran's quality.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    thupercoach wrote:pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.   :lol: how did you leave Vedran out of that list?  Good god no, Vedran is in a different class. I don't believe he's cost us points this season but has won us plenty.  Birrighitti's distribution is a bit better though.   Vedran is 4 years older than Biraz. And let us not forget his flap at Craig Goodwin's freekick last season :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Janjetovic and Birrighitti are at the same level.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    pv4 wrote:thupercoach wrote:jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.   :lol: how did you leave Vedran out of that list?  Good god no, Vedran is in a different class. I don't believe he's cost us points this season but has won us plenty.  Birrighitti's distribution is a bit better though.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    thupercoach wrote:jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.   :lol: how did you leave Vedran out of that list?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jparraga wrote:Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.  He must've been more consistent last season then, but IMO generally speaking he's always two minutes away from a howler. Just has that look about him. Reddy, Ivan, Kennedy, Velaphi all have that look, even when they're playing well.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Quote:I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.   yeah nah, you don't know what you're talking about. Last season he was immense, easily the best player at the club and kept us from coming last. I'll admit his recent form (coasties and heart games) has been uncharacteristically poor. I don't blame you for not watching Jerk's games over the last couple of seasons but if you had you'd know how good he's been.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Roar #1 wrote:jparraga wrote:Hope the Germans weren't watching tonight  Some absolute howlers tonight, he probably won't make a worse mistake in the rest of his career then the first goal.  It seems the training ground bust up really affected him   I'm sorry, he's always been crap. He is among the most inconsistent keepers in the league.  Cost Newy a point at least. If he's going to Germany, it might be for Oktoberfest.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jparraga wrote:Hope the Germans weren't watching tonight  Some absolute howlers tonight, he probably won't make a worse mistake in the rest of his career then the first goal.  It seems the training ground bust up really affected him                 
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Hope the Germans weren't watching tonight                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Hmm, Leverkusen's keeper has played every minute this season while their #2 hasn't made a senior appearance in a very long time. Could be legit. I'll be intrigued to see where Taggart ends up, he seems to have the football brain to do well.  Interest from Lazio, Everton and Schalke for Brillante sounds like a bit of agent wank.                
			    				
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			    marconi101 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:Mfrendin_Roar wrote:jlm8695 wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.  i think you put too much emphasis on finkler's quality... he's good but jets shouldn't down sell themselves offering him marquee wages.  Marquee spot doesn't necessarily mean marquee wages.  He's a good player but not good enough to be paid marquee wages or to be considered as one. Marquee spots should be for high quality players who cannot fit in the salary cap, not solid players looking for a payrise   This is true, but with the announcement of more losses for Tinkler it could be a cost cutting exercise when Finklers wages if under the cap could make further recruitment more difficult (depending on how much he's after).                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jlm8695 wrote:Mfrendin_Roar wrote:jlm8695 wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.  i think you put too much emphasis on finkler's quality... he's good but jets shouldn't down sell themselves offering him marquee wages.  Marquee spot doesn't necessarily mean marquee wages.  He's a good player but not good enough to be paid marquee wages or to be considered as one. Marquee spots should be for high quality players who cannot fit in the salary cap, not solid players looking for a payrise                
			    				
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			    DinosMum wrote:Ali07 wrote:Yeah, great move on paper...but I'm also in the "would like the move be for a number 1 spot" camp.  That very much depends on how detailed that piece of paper is. Hewould do well to move to a euro club as a starter. He would give Langerak a real run for his money at #2 for the NT if he was getting 35 games a year  Langerak is a talent, but I think that any Aussie GK that is getting a solid run in a good Euro league should take the #2 spot. jparraga wrote:Brillante possibly to Schalke, Everton or Lazio Birighitii to Bayer Leverkusen Finkler possibly to Jerks (pls pls pls)  Great, great, and horrible. jlm8695 wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.  Really? I don't see Finkler as a marquee at all. Very good player, but also not one that takes the game by the scruff of the neck on a regular or even semi-regular basis. He can usually represent a threat, mostly on the passing side of things, and may have more assists if MV had some better finishing. crimsoncrusoe wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   Apparently he isn't even better than Kosta  Barbarouses.](*,) .  When you've got Rogic and Troisi in there, and very little in CB and on the Wing (while Troisi can play there, largely been ineffective as a winger), then you have to make a cut somewhere. Kosta on the wing is better than Troisi, and apart from James the others would be Pain (better coming off the bench) and Nabbout (no thanks). Troisi has shown that his best spot is through the middle of the park. Also, he helps with defensive pressure on the forward half (even though he does leave some to be desired) by just being faster than Rogic and Finkler. I find that if MV struggle to keep the ball, Finkler and Rogic as the first line of defense can be passed a bit too easily as they aren't the quickest of players. Would hate to see what'd happen against Asian sides that are usually full of speedy/technically good players.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Mfrendin_Roar wrote:jlm8695 wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.  i think you put too much emphasis on finkler's quality... he's good but jets shouldn't down sell themselves offering him marquee wages.  Marquee spot doesn't necessarily mean marquee wages.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jlm8695 wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.  i think you put too much emphasis on finkler's quality... he's good but jets shouldn't down sell themselves offering him marquee wages.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    crimsoncrusoe wrote:marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   Apparently he isn't even better than Kosta  Barbarouses.](*,) .  Just putting this out there - Dare I say is Finkler a little over-rated due to his flashes of brilliance, aka that late match winning free kick and cameos off the bench previous? But now that he's a regular in the first XI, featuring most of the last few games - I dare suggest that it seems his impact is not a great as some may've hoped and indeed, in terms of the wider team, the form of Victory has not been great recent times? So Finkler has not made a great difference there and indeed, previously, when he was on the comeback and a super-sub from the bench, Victory were still showing flickers of promise - but losing Nichols to the J-League was the big blow and not even Finkler has quite filled that void, well not in the same way? Evidentially they are different players/individuals, but again, full matches over a few starts or more in a row - and he's still a 'good quality' import, no doubt, but he may be not much  more than that and certainly not a marquee or his form/lack of impact in a poor form side, at the moment wouldn't warrant it? Edited by GloryPerth: 10/3/2014 11:37:58 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Bowden wrote:Man Taylor Regan has the roughest head.   Provides us with the reason we have hair :-"                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Man Taylor Regan has the roughest head.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   Apparently he isn't even better than Kosta  Barbarouses.](*,) .                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jparraga wrote:pv4 wrote:Also Taylor Regan (in b4 "he's ugly") and Biraz had a punch up at training today. Regan had blood all over his face    Was on the triple j news on the way home, wtf.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    If taggart gets better at 1v1s with the keeper the rest of his game is already buli quality
  mind u thats a pretty important part of his game                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    munjumba wrote:jparraga wrote:Article in the Daily Telegraph (I can't find it online yet) reporting a 400k transfer for Mark Birighitti to walk away from his final year contracted to Newy to join Bayer Leverkusen. Birra has the same agent as Kruse, who has orchestrated the deal. Middelby (CEO) is saying nothing has been signed off yet but there is player negotiations taking place
  Easily our best player last season and just behind Tags this season :cry:   More relevant is that the agent is also mitch langeraks agent  JB Sports2Business. Also same as Robbie Kruse, Ben Halloran, James Holland, Dario Vidosic, Mathew Leckie and Michael Beauchamp. Based on that alone I'd say he's #gone.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Quote:With the Jets anticipated to lose $1million this season, the transfer fees would dramatically improve the club’s bottom line.  Seems Tinkler lose's money with everything he does #-o  BTW: would be a good move for all, I was only thinking last week that Mark has really improved this season, well done boys.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    marconi101 wrote:Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him   If you want a marquee who brings in crowds on name alone then no, but if you want a marquee who will single handedly win you matches then I would say he's worth it.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Finkler is not marquee material at all, we'll end up overpaying him                
			     				
			    He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.                     
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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