Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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afromanGT wrote:
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i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head

original claim right there. Evidence or GTFO.


you want me to provide evidence that the sun is the largest influence on the earth's climate?
are you fucking kidding me?

:lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:
i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head

original claim right there. Evidence or GTFO.
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feeling stupid afrodope?
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afromanGT wrote:
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lets just remove the sun altogether then

what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope?

Are you fucking shitting me? Nobody can be this stupid.

Just kill yourself. Seriously.


well I thought nobody could be that stupid until I met you

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RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


Edited by ricecrackers: 11/6/2014 02:05:47 PM
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ricecrackers wrote:
lets just remove the sun altogether then

what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope?

Are you fucking shitting me? Nobody can be this stupid.

Just kill yourself. Seriously.
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lets just remove the sun altogether then

what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope?
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afromanGT wrote:
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I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this.


show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years

The claim: that the sun is the most influential thing in climate change.

The claim was made by you. The onus is upon YOU to produce evidence.


you claimed that the sun wasnt the most influential factor on the earth's climate
seriously, you claimed that

smack yourself in the head (twice)
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ricecrackers wrote:
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I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this.


show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years

The claim: that the sun is the most influential thing in climate change.

The claim was made by you. The onus is upon YOU to produce evidence.
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You do realise that you're talking about something that takes place over the course of 24,000 years and 14 years is essentially negligible, right?

The "warming phase" ended some 8,000 years ago and we're currently close to the Perigee apsis of our orbit.
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RedKat wrote:
I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this.


show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years

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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
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RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.


we are going into a cooling cycle
there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years

We're in a cooling phase at the moment http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729653


we're going into a cool phase
this is the end of the warming period

comprehension fails you for the nth time

your data ends at 2000. um that'd be 14 years ago right?


Edited by ricecrackers: 11/6/2014 01:45:45 PM
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Munrubenmuz wrote:
The biggest issue is that at present there are massive heat sinks in the Antarctic, the Arctic and the world's oceans that are soaking up the majority of warming for the time being.

By way of analogy if you put a glass of hot water in a chest freezer full of ice to reach equilibrium there will be a massive drop in the temperature of the water in the glass and only a slight, almost imperceptible, raising in the overall temperature of the "system".

Put that same glass in an empty freezer and the temperature of the "system" will rise, in magnitude, many times more compared to the former example.

The issue will be what happens after the earth loses it's ability to soak up the constant input of heat.

The problem is it is hundreds of years from happening hence Crackers and the rest of them.


you people have a bullshit explanation for when your predictions continue to fail
credibility is non existent


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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.


we are going into a cooling cycle
there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years

We're in a cooling phase at the moment http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729653
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The biggest issue is that at present there are massive heat sinks in the Antarctic, the Arctic and the world's oceans that are soaking up the majority of warming for the time being.

By way of analogy if you put a glass of hot water in a chest freezer full of ice to reach equilibrium there will be a massive drop in the temperature of the water in the glass and only a slight, almost imperceptible, raising in the overall temperature of the "system".

Put that same glass in an empty freezer and the temperature of the "system" will rise, in magnitude, many times more compared to the former example.

The issue will be what happens after the earth loses it's ability to soak up the constant input of heat.

The problem is it is hundreds of years from happening hence Crackers and the rest of them.


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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.


we are going into a cooling cycle
there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years

You obviously know what you are talking about. I would love to read your peer reviewed papers on the subject so I can get better informed, or maybe you can point me towards the various journals and scientific institutes that have published your work.
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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.


we are going into a cooling cycle
there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years


*insert graphs and evidence here*

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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.


we are going into a cooling cycle
there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years
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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?

If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong.

So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.


biology bloggers?
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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though

And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary.
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RedKat wrote:
Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make.


i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head
just my opinion though
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afromanGT wrote:
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iflscience began as a facebook page and has since blossomed into a high-traffic website and will soon be a serialised television show. It's got more credibility than you do.


stormfront has a lot of traffic too i hear

Stormfront is not testifying to scientific accuracy.

You can't claim that iflscience doesn't have enough credibility after posting a piece from The Daily Caller.


my link cited direct quotes from a polar bear specialist. someone actually credible in the field they were commenting on.

your science blog piece was merely opinion by someone who has no qualifications in climate science much less astrophysics and you base its credibility on page views.

you see your entire position on climate change is not based in science at all and this is consistent with your approach in general...ie science = whoever makes the most noise
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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
iflscience began as a facebook page and has since blossomed into a high-traffic website and will soon be a serialised television show. It's got more credibility than you do.


stormfront has a lot of traffic too i hear

Stormfront is not testifying to scientific accuracy.

You can't claim that iflscience doesn't have enough credibility after posting a piece from The Daily Caller.
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afromanGT wrote:
iflscience began as a facebook page and has since blossomed into a high-traffic website and will soon be a serialised television show. It's got more credibility than you do.


stormfront has a lot of traffic too i hear
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iflscience began as a facebook page and has since blossomed into a high-traffic website and will soon be a serialised television show. It's got more credibility than you do.
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afromanGT wrote:
iflscience is a bit more than an 'amateur blog'.


really? so they're getting paid for those articles?
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iflscience is a bit more than an 'amateur blog'.
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you copy and pasted an amateur blog :lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:


you're obfuscating now, i find this frustrating about you


Hey! That's my big word. Find your own.


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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Id like to know how polling people on words and what they associate it with is proof that the science is wrong?


oh dear
not even worth the effort but quoted for reference


Stop skimping out and being lazy or you will keep losing :lol:

Checkmate.

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