2014 FIFA World Cup Squad Talk


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Neill and Kewell may have both had something too offer but also may have just held us back....we shouldn't be afraid of change.
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Chile's provisional squad. Would be surprised if Vidal actually makes the final cut.

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jlm8695 wrote:
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With our CBs dropping like flies, was dropping Neill a tad premature?


Flies> Neill.


Flies get behind the ball.


LFC.
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Got to say the Belgium squad is pretty good - well barring Fellaini :d !......
Group H is there's imo mind you Russia Korea will test them.

Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Chelsea), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool), Koen Casteels (Hoffenheim), Silvio Proto (Anderlecht)

Defenders: Toby Alderweireld (Atletico Madrid), Lauren Ciman (Standard Liege), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit St Petersburg), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders: Nacer Chadli (Tottenham Hotspur), Kevin De Bruyne (VfL Wolfsburg), Steven Defour (Porto), Mousa Dembele (Tottenham Hotspur), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United), Axel Witsel (Zenit St Petersburg)

Forwards: Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United), Romelu Lukaku (Everton), Dries Mertens (Napoli), Kevin Mirallas (Everton), Divock Origi (Lille)

Stand-by: Michy Batshuayi (Standard Liege), Guillaume Gillet (Anderlecht), Thorgan Hazard (Zulte Waregem), Radja Nainggolan (AS Roma), Sebastien Pocognoli (Hanover 96), Jelle Van Damme (Standard Liege)



Love Football

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Watching German C team vs Poland: Zieler, Rudiger, Mustafi, Ginter, Sorg- Kramer, Rudy, Goretzka, Meyer, Draxler- Volland. Just crazy. Very good players. Average age of 21.
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England squad:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Attackers: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United).

Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).


Thanks to Brendan Rodgers old Hogson might be able to play some attacking football even if it scares him to death.
A midfield of Gerrard holding, Wilshire as the 8 and Lallana at 10 has a good feel to me. A front thee of Sturridge, Sterling and the Ox as a central striker would be a very mobile forward line well versed in the Liverpool system.

He wont do it though probably put potato head as the 9, sacrifice Lallana for Henderson or Milner.

I think Sturridge would be wasted on the left. I'd play him up front with Rooney in behind, and Lallana and Sterling/Ox on the wings.

Good squad for England.
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johnszasz wrote:
England squad:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Attackers: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United).

Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).


Thanks to Brendan Rodgers old Hogson might be able to play some attacking football even if it scares him to death.
A midfield of Gerrard holding, Wilshire as the 8 and Lallana at 10 has a good feel to me. A front thee of Sturridge, Sterling and the Ox as a central striker would be a very mobile forward line well versed in the Liverpool system.

He wont do it though probably put potato head as the 9, sacrifice Lallana for Henderson or Milner.
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afromanGT wrote:
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Proud2BeCanberran wrote:
German squad of 30 announced:



thats how you promote youth....

durm, mustafi, draxler, goretzka, meyer, volland, hahn..... etc

most of that squad is well under 30.

3 players in the 30 man squad over 30 years of age is pretty damn impressive.


That is an amazing squad will be hard to beat.
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England squad:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Celtic), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Attackers: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United).

Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).
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Saw a couple photos on social media of Adam Taggart at some Socceroos promo with Mark Milligan. Fair to say he is in the squad of 30.
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pv4 wrote:
. We have no one to play CB (bar Spira).

ange will have to seriously consider malik
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The 5 centreback options are Spira, Ryan McGowan, Curtis Good, Alex Wilkinson & Trent Sainsbury.

Sainsbury is injured and needs surgery.
Good is currently injured.
Ryan McGowan is a right back, and plays SFA time in China.
Spira is a lock, love him & good choice.
Wilkinson played 36 mins on the weekend, for his K-League team.

Ange shouldn't have said no to Neill. We have no one to play CB (bar Spira).
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Halloran seems to be killing it, but with the way he's been playing has to start on the wing. Added bonus is that he's probably by far our fastest player that will be in our squad and pace can win you matches.

I think our midfield will be strong

Milligan-Jedinak
Halloran-Troisi-Oar


Enough to cause our opposition problems if we use the ball well.
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thupercoach wrote:
With our CBs dropping like flies, was dropping Neill a tad premature?


Flies> Neill.
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With our CBs dropping like flies, was dropping Neill a tad premature?
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I'm still hoping for a couple of surprise selections, maybe a Nathan Burns or a Carl Valeri fitness permitting, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Yeah, was about to post that too P2BC! Seems the speculation of many of you, in regards to the CB rotation, was right on, or near, the mark! Good AND Sainsbury seem 'all-but' on the plane to Brazil and either one of them is a 'Good' chance to partner Spira too! Ryan McGowan is a logical choice though he needs to see regular game time with Shandong Luneng quick smart or he won't make that final 23-man squad!

Edited by GloryPerth: 9/5/2014 07:38:55 PM
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Socceroos defenders vie for World Cup squad spots

Five central defenders will battle for four seats on the plane to Brazil from next Wednesday when Socceroos' coach Ange Postecoglou announces his preliminary World Cup squad.

There will be a new-look defensive partnership in the heart of the Socceroos defence in Brazil In the absence of former captain Lucas Neill, veteran Sasa Ognenovski and the injured Rhys Williams leaving Ryan McGowan, Matthew Spiranovic, Curtis Good, Alex Wilkinson and Trent Sainsbury as the five centre-backs in the extended 30-man Socceroos squad to be announced on Wednesday. However, one of the five aspirants will miss the final cut for the 2014 FIFA World Cup.

Sources close to the national team suggest that Postecoglou is only planning to take four central defenders to Brazil and will give the quintet an opportunity to stake their claims during their 10-day training camp on the Central Coast and during the friendly match against South Africa on May 26.

McGowan and Spiranovic are regarded as the most assured of the five especially as two of the defenders are also battling injury problems on top of the competition for places. Trent Sainsbury is yet to fully recover from a freak knee injury sustained in his debut game for Dutch club PEC Zwolle while Curtis Good is suffering a hip flexor strain.

A number of domestic players in contention to form the preliminary World Cup squad are training together in Adelaide. Melbourne Victory trio Mark Milligan, Tom Rogic and James Troisi are in camp and likely to make up the extended list alongside Newcastle Jets striker Adam Taggart, Brisbane duo Ivan Franjic and Matt McKay while Adelaide's Eugene Galekovic will battle former Reds' understudy Mark Birighitti for the third goalkeeper spot in Brazil.

The Wanderers' Spiranovic will continue playing with his club throughout the remainder of their Asian Champions League campaign before joining the national team in camp.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-defenders-vie-for-world-cup-squad-spots-20140509-zr70n.html#ixzz31ChHFpCF


Hopefully Sainsbury pulls through, meaning Good, Spiranovic, McGowan and Sainsbury are the four going to Brazil.

Decent set of CBs IMO, and with three friendlies to play plus a near month long camp there is plenty of time to get fit and sharp ready for the Chileans.
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Was pretty surprised to see Gundogan left out.
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Durm- Ex striker now awesome left back. Something Australia needs big time.
Goretzka- Great on the ball and so so young.
Hahn- Was delivering pizzas two years ago and now made a massive move to Gladbach.
Volland- Such a gun forward and would walk into the Australian team.
Draxler- Slowly fulfilling his potential and is only 20.
Meyer- Great talent and will continue to get better.

Then there are Sven bender and Gundogan who both missed out. Plus due to the cup final a German C team has been put together with players having theoretical chance at the final squad but unlikely. They'll go well but I don't want to say if they'll win. They always start with a bang but peak too early.
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roary's mane wrote:
Proud2BeCanberran wrote:
German squad of 30 announced:



thats how you promote youth....

durm, mustafi, draxler, goretzka, meyer, volland, hahn..... etc

most of that squad is well under 30.

3 players in the 30 man squad over 30 years of age is pretty damn impressive.
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RedKat wrote:
Shit that squad is good. Yes we have Spain, Netherlands and Chile but on the plus side we dont have to face Germany. Whats scary is the players who didnt make the squad


I think 2018 will be their year - too reliant on the midfield and an ever-aging Klose for goals here. But then again, its a pretty fucking good midfield and Klose loves the Cup.

Edited by roary's mane: 8/5/2014 09:49:25 PM
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. I would much rather see Giannou, Antonis and Troisi in the squad.



The greatest selection surprise would be if Milligan was selected and moved into CB with Spira and Brattan started alongside the Jedi.


Didn't see much of Antonis, but he looked very good when I did for Sydney.

Would not be surprised to see T-S partner Spira.

Brattan just hasn't played enough senior international football yet. The WC is a big step up from the HAL. The Asian Cup could be a possibility, if he plays a few friendlies between now and January.


....greatest surprise?

T-S has 0% chance. IMO De Vere, Chapman, Malik, and Zac Anderson would make an Ange squad ahead of him. If it is another A-League player partnering (realisticlly, it is going to be Curtis Good or Trent Sainsbury and we all know it) it will be Jade North, Matt Smith, or Osama Malik. 1% chance for Og. 5% chance for Milligan.
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Proud2BeCanberran wrote:
German squad of 30 announced:



thats how you promote youth....

durm, mustafi, draxler, goretzka, meyer, volland, hahn..... etc

most of that squad is well under 30.
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I think Ginter's missing from that squad list.
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German squad of 30 announced:


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roary's mane wrote:
. I would much rather see Giannou, Antonis and Troisi in the squad.



The greatest selection surprise would be if Milligan was selected and moved into CB with Spira and Brattan started alongside the Jedi.


Didn't see much of Antonis, but he looked very good when I did for Sydney.

Would not be surprised to see T-S partner Spira.

Brattan just hasn't played enough senior international football yet. The WC is a big step up from the HAL. The Asian Cup could be a possibility, if he plays a few friendlies between now and January.
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My sides against each team:

I'm all for going out and attacking Chile:

------------Ryan
Franjic--Spira--Milligan/(McGowan for speed)--Davidson
---------------Jedinak
---------Rogic---------Troisi
Halloran------Cahill--------Oar

Key subs:
Bresciano to help unlock the game: drawing. Holland to help lock up the midfield: winning. McGowan to allow Milligan into midfield to secure the game.


1 holding mid and 2 attacking mids of which 1 unfit and out of form. Would kick of the world cup with a heavy thumping!

With Vidal looking likely to miss the WC, I don't think Chile will be that dangerous n the centre of midfield. To be honest, I don't know their midfielders that well, but I'm just assuming that if there is any game to attack in, it's that one.


Saw Chile play against Brazil, shortly before after our thrashing. Chile nearly matched Brazil in a very close game. On that showing they look formidable.
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Wouldnt mind Giannou, but just haven't heard anything about him from Ange at all... would be an absolute shock selection

That said... at last he is playing and playing reasonably well... fuck Vidosic and Bozanic. Neither are playing. I would much rather see Giannou, Antonis and Troisi in the squad.

I also don't think Wilko deserves to be there... doesn't inspire any confidence to be honest, isn't of the younger variety, and as an older player doesn't have any experience in the NT. If we are going for a 1 cap player, would rather it be a young guy full of enthusiasm. Even throw the kitchen sink at Brad Smith and offer him a spot in 23 to choose to play for Aus.

I think Wilkshire will be in the 23 - just the way all of these blokes have been retiring... think he would have followed suit had he not been told he will be included.

The real issue will be wings. If Leckie is included as a wing, opens up a spot for Juric/Taggart. But I have a feeling Leckie will start as CF with Halloran and Oar as the wings.

Including Vidosic and Bozanic as #10 options is silly.... we have Rogic & Bresc, Oar has played a few games there for Utrecht, and Troisi can play there if he makes the team.

Either way, forumites will find a way to be disappointed in this squad. I just hope Boz/Vid dont get selected - they dont deserve too ahead of A-League guys who've been getting game time.

The greatest selection surprise would be if Milligan was selected and moved into CB with Spira and Brattan started alongside the Jedi.
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Who will be in your 30 man squad?

Most of us have put down 23 man squads, but first, I would like to see what everyone thinks the 30 man squad will look like.

Knowing the following players are unavailable, Neill, Williams, Sainsbury, Kruse, Holman, Schwarzer, Kewell and by all reports Ognenovski is not going to be selected.

I would like something like:

GKs Ryan Langerak Galekovic
DF Franjic Wilkshire Spiranovic Good Mrcela Wilkinson Wright Davidson Zullo
DMs Jedinak Milligan Sarota Holland Luongo Brattan
W + AMs Leckie Halloran Rogic Bresciano Vidosic Oar Troisi Giannou
FWD Cahill Kennedy Taggart Juric

McKay and Sainsbury are nailed on for the 30.

McKay though may be a higher profile casualty when squad gets trimmed to 23. He has a strong connection to Ange, but when he's looking for bench players it will make more sense to blood youth, with Brattan, Luongo, Sarota and Holland probably all ahead of him.

Think he'll take just 7 defenders to accommodate a 5th defensive mid.



Agreed on all counts.
With McGowan as cover CB and RB, 7 defenders in the 23.

From the 30 u448 posted, I'd make 4 changes.
McGowan and Sainsbury in for Mrcela and Wright.
And McKay and Bozanic for Giannou and Juric



I heard that Sainsbury could be expecting to have surgery in the off season and as a result will miss the tournament. Otherwise I would have selected him. McKay is a possibility, and Ange will probably pick him, but we have so many midfielders I couldn't put him or Bozanic in. Plus Bozanic hasn't played much recently. McGowan also hasn't played that much lately, but Ange will probably select him anyway.


Can't imagine that McGowan and Bozanic will be selected if they have not been playing. The C League is no better than the HAL apart from Guanzhou the best team in the world outside Europe and South America. McGowan has never played as well as Good has just in his one appearance against Ecuador. Someone like Topor-Stanley may be more match conditioned than him and more experienced.

Edited by Decentric: 8/5/2014 07:01:54 PM
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