Abbott denounces 'barbaric' image of child holding head


Abbott denounces 'barbaric' image of child holding head

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Abbott denounces 'barbaric' image of child holding head
11 AUG 2014 - 12:34PM



Boy believed to be Australian Khaled Sharrouf's son holds the decapitated head of a soldier.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has denounced a "barbaric" and "hideous" image of a young boy, believed to be Australian, holding up the decapitated head of a slain Syrian soldier.

The boy, wearing a cap, checked pants and a blue shirt, struggles with both arms to hold up the head in the picture reportedly posted on the Twitter account of a Sydney man who is now an Islamic State fighter.

The shocking photo, taken in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa, is believed to be that of Khaled Sharrouf's son; posted with the words, "Thats my boy!"

Mr Abbott said the picture was further evidence of the barbarism of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, known as ISIL or ISIS.

"I believe there are more photographs in newspapers in Australia today of the kind of hideous atrocities that this group is capable of," he told ABC radio on Monday.

Defence Minister David Johnston said he was disgusted by the picture.

"I'm obviously revolted," he told ABC radio.

Senator Johnston said it underscored the importance of the government's proposed counter-terrorism laws.

However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.

"I'm very upset about this sort of thing completely colouring our view of Muslims," Senator Johnston said.

"The vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving and peaceful people."

The picture is one of several photos posted by Sharrouf, who security agencies believe travelled to Syria with his family. One shows Sharrouf also holding the decapitated head.

Another photo shows Sharrouf dressed in camouflage fatigues and posing with his three young sons who are holding guns, the flag of the Islamic State behind them.

They appear to be aged around four, six and seven, News Corps Australia reports.

Sharrouf, a convicted terrorist, is wanted by Australian Federal Police over crimes in Syria and Iraq, which include the shooting execution of a captured Iraqi official in the desert outside the Iraqi city of Mosul.

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Yay for religion
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Fucking nutjob.

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how long before we see zimbos appearing in one of these articles
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mind boggling....the human race.....if these nutters can be described as human.....

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Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.
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notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish
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Roar #1 wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.
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notorganic wrote:
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notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.


Your point letting them in is valid if they were not a threat to our society but as the graphics show NO they shouldnt be allowed entry into our country ! Leave them out there where they wished to behave as animals !


Edited by m.l.: 11/8/2014 06:15:18 PM

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notorganic wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.

They should have their passports revoked on the grounds of moral turpitude. You can't commence legal proceedings against them for events which happened in a country well outside Australian jurisdiction.
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M.L. wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
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Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.


Your point letting them in is valid if they were not a threat to our society but as the graphics show NO they shouldnt be allowed entry into our country ! Leave them out there where they wished to behave as animals !

There's no precedent for revoking citizenship.

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You can't commence legal proceedings against them for events which happened in a country well outside Australian jurisdiction.

There is precedent for Australia trying Australians for events which happened in a country outside Australian jurisdiction through Polyukhovich v Commonwealth.

So, you're wrong.
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afromanGT wrote:
They should have their passports revoked on the grounds of moral turpitude.

:lol:
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I'd rather extradition to an Iraqi court, should Iraq seek it and the death penalty be ruled out, which as I understand is usual in extradition agreements.

I'd certainly expect the Australian government to want to extradite and try an Iraqi citizen who'd murdered an Australian soldier in Australia.

Edited by paladisious: 11/8/2014 06:38:05 PM
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paladisious wrote:
I'd rather extradition to an Iraqi court, should Iraq seek it and the death penalty be ruled out, which as I understand is usual in extradition agreements.

I'd certainly expect the Australian government to want to extradite and try an Iraqi citizen who'd murdered an Australian soldier in Australia.

Edited by paladisious: 11/8/2014 06:38:05 PM

Yep, would be a fair outcome... Provided there are any Iraqi courts left by the time this is all over. No point sending them to a Caliphate for crimes committed during the establishment.
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notorganic wrote:
M.L. wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.


Your point letting them in is valid if they were not a threat to our society but as the graphics show NO they shouldnt be allowed entry into our country ! Leave them out there where they wished to behave as animals !

There's no precedent for revoking citizenship.

afromanGT wrote:
You can't commence legal proceedings against them for events which happened in a country well outside Australian jurisdiction.

There is precedent for Australia trying Australians for events which happened in a country outside Australian jurisdiction through Polyukhovich v Commonwealth.

So, you're wrong.

But that was determinate on whether Australia had an interest or concern. Since the guy isn't already in the country they would have to knowingly let a criminal into the country. Polyukhovich was acquitted due to lack of clear evidence, something which will be a consistent issue in a trial of someone committing crimes in a third world country in a war zone.

Furthermore, a person who's on a flight who is suspected of committing a crime (regardless of their nationality) can be flagged and denied entry to the country. A friend who used to work in customs told me that ASIS do this regularly.
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notorganic wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.

Its almost like you want them to come back.
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Amazing that a guy who tortures children can comment.
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SocaWho wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Now let's see the libs and alp start blowing each other to usher in a new era of authoritarianism and draconian citizen monitoring laws.


Yeah we should probably just let these guys return to Australia if they wish


If they're Australian citizens, then yes.

And they should be arrested at the airport, tried and locked up like any other criminal.

Its almost like you want them to come back.

To face justice. Unless they cop a conflict bullet in the face, what justice will they see in Iraq?
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?
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macktheknife wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?

I think you've misunderstood that sentence entirely. A misrepresentation, not a mislabelling.
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afromanGT wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?

I think you've misunderstood that sentence entirely. A misrepresentation, not a mislabelling.


How is it a misrepresentation? Either he's fighting for Islam, or he's not. If he is, then he is a representative of Islam no matter if apologists like it or not.
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macktheknife wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?

I think you've misunderstood that sentence entirely. A misrepresentation, not a mislabelling.


How is it a misrepresentation? Either he's fighting for Islam, or he's not. If he is, then he is a representative of Islam no matter if apologists like it or not.

That's like saying your statement represents white people.
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macktheknife wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?

I think you've misunderstood that sentence entirely. A misrepresentation, not a mislabelling.


How is it a misrepresentation? Either he's fighting for Islam, or he's not. If he is, then he is a representative of Islam no matter if apologists like it or not.

Yes he fights for Islam, but it doesn't mean that all people in Islam think like him.
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I guess Obama now has his mandate to blow these 'sub humans' to kingdom come
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macktheknife wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?


It's similar to how kid fucking is a misrepresentation of Catholics.
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no its all about religion havent you heard?

religion is to blame for all of this according to the majority here
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notorganic wrote:
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However, he stressed it should not be taken out of context and condemned the picture as a "shocking misrepresentation" of Islam and Muslims.


So the guy who got his son to hold up the head while fighting for the "Islamic State" isn't Muslim/Islamic?


It's similar to how kid fucking is a misrepresentation of Catholics.


It's not a misrepresentation to say a Catholic Priest kiddy fiddler is a Catholic.

And no, it doesn't mean all Muslims or all Catholics are terrorists/kiddy fiddlers, just that these people do represent a section of their overall demographic. In this case, one section is in the middle of building their own Islamic caliphate

Edited by macktheknife: 11/8/2014 09:24:00 PM
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how dumb is this guy :lol:

and he supports WSW too :lol:

Edited by ricecrackers: 11/8/2014 09:33:02 PM
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ricecrackers wrote:
how dumb is this guy :lol:

and he supports WSW too :lol:


And thus ricecrackers lost the argument.
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