United States of America: Commander in Chief Joe Biden


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Munrubenmuz - 11 Jan 2021 1:45 PM
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 1:19 PM

They wound them right up, poured petrol all over them and threw a match on it..  All of that coupled with multiple incendiary tweets.  
 
You just perfectly summarised the 2020 Democrat election strategy.
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 1:19 PM
Trump: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Kamala Harris: "But they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop. They’re not. This is a movement. I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after election day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they’re not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not."

Spot the insurrectionist.

You are pathetic.  Trump did not say just that did he.  Nor did Guiliani, nor Don Jr or any number of the sycophants that stood on stage with him immediately prior to them marching.  They wound them right up, poured petrol all over them and threw a match on it..  All of that coupled with multiple incendiary tweets.  Quoting a tiny part of a 45 minute speech without full context is the worst kind of debating tactics.

As has been said by multiple commentators what happened at the capitol building was disgusting but NOT SURPRISING.  (That's the worst part.) 

No wonder no one takes you seriously.  Just reading some of your previous posts I honestly think you need to see a pyschologist. 

And in case you can't google, 'insurrection' is 'a violent uprising against an authority or government'.  Only one group was guilty of that.


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Trump: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Kamala Harris: "But they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop. They’re not. This is a movement. I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after election day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they’re not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not."

Spot the insurrectionist.
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 12:37 PM
Eeirly similar tactics to those utilised by Democrats with their social media posts, deflecting attention away from legitimate concerns regarding antifa and free speech.

Well done Sydneyfc1987 and carlito, You're on the same level as the Chinese communist party.

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 12:32 PM
rusty - 11 Jan 2021 12:16 PM

Whatabboutism: the best way to defend the indefensible.


When cops shoot a unarmed white: “but but but she broke a window ffs. SHE BROKE A WINDOW GODDAMMIT!!!”
When cops shoot an armed black: “ITS WACISM ARGGGGHHHGGHH, RIOT, LOOT, BURN THE SYSTEM DOWN ARGGHHHHH!!!!”



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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 12:37 PM
Eeirly similar tactics to those utilised by China with their social media posts, deflecting attention away from legitimate concerns regarding COVID-19 and detainment of Chinese Muslims.

Well done Rusty and enzo. You're on the same level as the Chinese communist party.

oh look over there!
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 12:32 PM
rusty - 11 Jan 2021 12:16 PM

Whatabboutism: the best way to defend the indefensible.


You keep using that word as if you know what it means  It only works when there is false equivalence.  You are hiding behind  claims of whatabboutism so as to not answer to equivalent events about things that you want ignored.
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Eeirly similar tactics to those utilised by China with their social media posts, deflecting attention away from legitimate concerns regarding COVID-19 and detainment of Chinese Muslims.

Well done Rusty and enzo. You're on the same level as the Chinese communist party.

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:40 AM

You sound like those awful white supremacists defending police shootings of unarmed blacks.

Whatabboutism: the best way to defend the indefensible.



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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:40 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:33 AM

Find the video of the shooting. She smashes the window of a locked door leading into the house floor and then attemps to climb through it despite police police warning multiple times that they will open fire if she or others stepped through. 


You sound like those awful white supremacists defending police shootings of blacks.

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:42 AM
Even your attempts at whatabboutism are falling flat now enzo


She was unarmed.   

This is not false equivalence.

 A black woman gets shot in the crossfire as her drug dealer boyfriend pulls a gun on police= time to riot.  An unarmed white woman gets shot in its upholding the law.
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:40 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:33 AM

Find the video of the shooting. She smashes the window of a locked door leading into the house floor and then attemps to climb through it despite police police warning multiple times that they will open fire if she or others stepped through. 

To say she was just "brandishing a flag" is either ignorance on your part or a complete lie.


They should have shot everyone else who did the same then.
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Can't be bothered actually doing this but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B18DoyXZu4 with Rusty and Enzo's names over the MAGA idiots and "the rest of us" on the green shirt guy.


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Even your attempts at whatabboutism are falling flat now enzo

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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:33 AM
sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:18 AM

Yes terrible for that family.  But lets be balanced:

What about the family of the white service woman who did multiple tours of duty who was shot dead by WH police, because she was threatening their welfare by brandishing a US flag? 

 Where is your outrage for her death?

Imagine if that was a black woman in bed with drug dealer as he pulled a gun on police....

Find the video of the shooting. She smashes the window of a locked door leading into the house floor and then attemps to climb through it despite police police warning multiple times that they will open fire if she or others stepped through. 

To say she was just "brandishing a flag" is either ignorance on your part or a complete lie.

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:18 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:04 AM

Well there you go! 

I'm sure the dead police officer's family will be relieved to hear they were just a bunch of silly louts. 

Well done enzo.

Yes terrible for that family.  But lets be balanced:

What about the family of the white service woman who did multiple tours of duty who was shot dead by WH police, because she was threatening their welfare by brandishing a US flag? 

 Where is your outrage for her death?

Imagine if that was a black woman in bed with drug dealer as he pulled a gun on police....
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 11:18 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:04 AM

Well there you go! 

I'm sure the dead police officer's family will be relieved to hear they were just a bunch of silly louts. 

Well done enzo.

 Silly louts, mostly peaceful protestors, same same.
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 10:55 AM
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The problem for them is the shear and growing numbers they need to delete.  If they keep going with their racist division as Pelosi already has they will end up governing the US under martial law.  

I think they will be banking on the likelihood there will be a terrorist attack or two, which they can then use to create further laws to surveil and arrest anyone who expresses views that are likely to “invite violence”. ie conservative/right wing views. I honestly dont think they are worried, countries with much less power have been able to control and oppress their entire populations.

There may never be another free fair election in the United States,

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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 11:04 AM
sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 10:21 AM

Just to add, read this account of what took place. The "rioters" are comical.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/these-are-the-rioters-who-stormed-us-capitol-20210108-p56ssc.html

 Its from The Age, so you know its true..

Well there you go! 

I'm sure the dead police officer's family will be relieved to hear they were just a bunch of silly louts. 

Well done enzo.

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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 10:21 AM
A gang of right wing thugs literally "came for" the democratic government of the United States, some with guns and zip ties, chanting to hang the vice president and you write that shit without a shred of irony.

Fuck me sideways.

Just to add, read this account of what took place. The "rioters" are comical.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/these-are-the-rioters-who-stormed-us-capitol-20210108-p56ssc.html

 Its from The Age, so you know its true..
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 10:32 AM

I don’t think the left are interested in uniting to be honest. Why cooperate with your enemy when you can simply delete them?


The problem for them is the shear and growing numbers they need to delete.  If they keep going with their racist division as Pelosi already has they will end up governing the US under martial law.  
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 10:21 AM
A gang of right wing thugs literally "came for" the democratic government of the United States, some with guns and zip ties, chanting to hang the vice president and you write that shit without a shred of irony.

Fuck me sideways.

here you go:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/portland-protesters-barricade-courthouse-with-federal-officers-inside/

and another

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/suspect-charged-in-phoenix-federal-court-house-shooting-11494396





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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 10:32 AM
sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 9:45 AM

You now have half the nation against Bidens government.  Good luck uniting them

I don’t think the left are interested in uniting to be honest. Why cooperate with your enemy when you can simply delete them?

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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 8:41 AM

I guess its subjective isn't it. In terms of property damage, loss of life etc the black lives matter unrest was definitely worse.

Symbolically what happened the other day however was far more damaging.  But as you have clearly shown you don't care about the future of democracy and would probably prefer an authoritarian state as long as the dictator shared your "values".

Thankfully plenty of conservative voices don't share your sentiments and acknowledge the seriousness of the incident rather than looking for ways to justify murder and insurrection.


Symbolically because it was at the White House, a pillar of Demcracy, right?  The Federal Courts are another pillar of democracy.  Where was the outrage when BLM attacked Federal Courts, another pillar of democracy?  The hypocrisy is nauseating.

Have a look at the bumkins at the White House-you think they can be a threat to democracy, wearing cow costumes, as they posed for selfies with guards and took photo's in Pelosi's office? 

Che Guevarra's, the lot of them!   Thee overthrow of the government was imminent!

You are wilfully ignorant as to how Big Tech and the MSM has undermined democracy for the past 4 years,- as long as of course its the *other* side whose democracy is being taken away, its ok.

You now have half the nation against Bidens government.  Good luck uniting them
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sydneyfc1987 - 11 Jan 2021 7:11 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 8:30 PM

Have you ever done this rusty?

Look at the media dude. Those rioters are getting bashed left right and centre. Look at big tech, they are cracking down on free speech like it’s communist China. It’s not just Trump accounts they’re banning, it’s his supporters and anyone with right wing opinions, even moderate ones. No line is being drawn between the “mostly peaceful protestors” and those who breached the capitol, apparently anyone who attended or supported Trump  is an insurrectionist and purveyor of violence. It’s become on full on assault on free speech, under the false pretence of cracking down on “egregious content” and “violence”. What about the egregious content and violence of Antica, BLM and the left? Why can they operate with total impunity to incite riots, harassment, violence etc but you can’t even express a moderate right wing opinion without risk of being cancelled or de platformed. it makes no difference whether I come out and condemn Trump protestors, because you’ve always got the entire media, political and tech establishment doing exactly that. Even Fox News got in the act, so it’s not like you can argue that the right have condoned the violence. 

I bet it feels great to be perched atop of the mountain with all the tools and means to silence your opponents, but doesn’t that mean you don’t believe in free speech? It should concern who believes in free speech and democratic values about the Orwellian takeover of big tech companies (in collusion with Democrats) to regulate our thoughts, beliefs and opinions, and excommunicate those who dissent. We (the west) are teetering on becoming a China esque oppressive state. Then again, maybe that’s what the left wants.

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A gang of right wing thugs literally "came for" the democratic government of the United States, some with guns and zip ties, chanting to hang the vice president and you write that shit without a shred of irony.

Fuck me sideways.

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Oh the irony enzo

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Agreed Rusty.

 Markforomcroydon nailed it an earlier post:

I think it's fair to say that there's no such thing as journalism anymore.
All media companies are seeking to make a profit and push the narrative of their management teams liking (whether right or left).
I generally go to facts and check myself. 
NB* Real fact checking, not the false kind you read about in the media.

The thing about the Left is they're ok with the all of the lies and misinformation as long as the lies and misinformation suit them.  If there is one single thing that unites all Leftards wherever they are on the psectrum is their double standards and hypocrisy. 

Until one day "they come for them, and there is no-one to stand up
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 8:41 AM
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if they are equally destructive sure.


I guess its subjective isn't it. In terms of property damage, loss of life etc the black lives matter unrest was definitely worse.

Symbolically what happened the other day however was far more damaging.  But as you have clearly shown you don't care about the future of democracy and would probably prefer an authoritarian state as long as the dictator shared your "values".

Thankfully plenty of conservative voices don't share your sentiments and acknowledge the seriousness of the incident rather than looking for ways to justify murder and insurrection.

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Classic example on the News.com websites today.
The headline is
"Chaos as Trump March suddenly turns violent".

The headline seeks to promote Trump and/or his supporters as the cause of the chaos.
The facts are that the Trump supporters were having a planned organised march, when they were accosted by the BLM/Antifa thugs.

Now, if the same happened in reverse, the headline would read that "Trump supporters attack protesters".

There is a clear and unambiguous bias against Trump and the Republican side of politics by the mainstream media. The media are not journalists and they don't practice journalism.
They are marketers and advertisers and they create and promote narratives that help their owners/funders.

And don't get me started on social media, which is an absolute threat to democracy itself.
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