junak
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Japan will slaughter Australia because they are so good. Honda will score a hattrick against the Socceroos because he is so good...
Oh wait, Japan are out. Fuckin morons. Suck shit to all the Japan fans on here. Socceroos for the Asian Cup 2015. #AngeIn
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adrtho
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:lol: we always smarting in hindsight
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kavorka
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dammit....i was hoping to see au v japan
i feel robbed
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aufc_ole
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rbs wrote:So are we good enough to beat UAE? New thread
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YerNathanael
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Well at least we don't have to worry about that any more :)
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rbs
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So are we good enough to beat UAE?
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JonoMV wrote:JonoMV wrote:Even if we play horrible we have a chance to beat Japan.
They can't put away chances, they can't deal with physicality, they can't deal with crosses.
Case in point this current UAE game. 35 shots, one goal.
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JonoMV
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JonoMV wrote:Even if we play horrible we have a chance to beat Japan.
They can't put away chances, they can't deal with physicality, they can't deal with crosses.
Case in point this current UAE game.
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patjennings
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biscuitman1871 wrote:patjennings wrote:jas88 wrote:I am really worried about:
Honda and Kagawa vs Davidson and Franjic. Spira can play at FB, can move forward with the ball and put in a good cross. Keep Wilko and Sainsbury together and replace Davidson with Spira. I'd also say thanks for the memories to Bresc and partner Luongo with Oar. Will never happen I don't think it will either. But neither Davidson or Behich instil any confidence. Yesterday, Luongo, though a AM was helping out Franjic but Davidson got no help from Bresc. Oar could do the same job for Davidson. Even Milligan when he came on balanced the side a lot better and helped out Davidson.
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biscuitman1871
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patjennings wrote:jas88 wrote:I am really worried about:
Honda and Kagawa vs Davidson and Franjic. Spira can play at FB, can move forward with the ball and put in a good cross. Keep Wilko and Sainsbury together and replace Davidson with Spira. I'd also say thanks for the memories to Bresc and partner Luongo with Oar. Will never happen
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johnsmith wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Stop posting.
Did we play Japan? No. How can you draw a comparison between how we set up and played against China and how we set up and play against Japan. It's such a stupid fucking question. And obviously, by the way you set up the question, you are fishing for negative reactions.
Fuck off. Listen up. The purpose of forums, on this and other websites, is to encourage discussion. Some of the topics I post don't get a good response. This one seems to have stimulated some discussion. That's life. For all we know, the fact you post so much could mean you have no other life except on this forum. If you're depressed, and are the sort of person that takes it out on strangers, seek help, because you're probably doing the same thing to the people around you. SelectFew is actually training / learning a course to be a teacher. His influence could drastically reduce the IQ of the next generation of kids in Australia....scary but true. Edited by SocaWho: 23/1/2015 06:33:11 PM
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patjennings
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jas88 wrote:I am really worried about:
Honda and Kagawa vs Davidson and Franjic. Spira can play at FB, can move forward with the ball and put in a good cross. Keep Wilko and Sainsbury together and replace Davidson with Spira. I'd also say thanks for the memories to Bresc and partner Luongo with Oar.
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biscuitman1871
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Bresc has done his dash I'd say. An unbelievable servant for Australia, but his time is up.
I wouldn't even mind seeing Milligan in that advance role. He's been excellent this tournament, and we know he can score goals. If we are picking on form Luongo, McKay and Milligan should be the midfield trio. We'll need there movement both on and off the ball, if we send out Jedi & Bresc together against Japan we'll be blown off the park. Jedinak won't play that badly twice in a row. Milligan or (and it pains me to say this) McKay offer more than Bresciano on current form although McKay was pretty average against Korea (but was excellent v Oman). Pity for Milligan that he didn't put away that excellent chance last night, would probably have guaranteed him a start in the semi. Hopefuly UAE do the business v Japan.
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highkick05 wrote:Link2588 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Bresc has done his dash I'd say. An unbelievable servant for Australia, but his time is up.
I wouldn't even mind seeing Milligan in that advance role. He's been excellent this tournament, and we know he can score goals. This Milligans decent but not nearly creative enough I think he should just be first drop for the padawan. Handy for a goal hear and there but I can't see it working if its his full time job to score / create Milligan or McKay can't create, let's just end it there. Also not one of our so called 'creators' moves enough off the ball to help create anything. Watch Bresh after he passes, stands still. Watch half of the team do this. It's a habit, fuck blaming the conditions or the pitch . This is why they get left out of their clubs squads for Belgians and Holland players. Not proactive enough. Troisi for Bresh any day of the week. lol'd at Sainsbury getting forward over the defensive mids. Fucking split the defense open a few times Mckay was alright back in the day but is well past it now. I remember he set up 3 goals against Uzbekistan in Asian Cup Semi final 4 years ago was solid. Sains is a beast he is going all the way Bresciano really increased everyones work load it wont work against Japan he has become to lazy playing in the Middle East you can tell the game there is far less intense than what it was like in Serie A for him. Will cost us the game against Japan if he starts guaranteed.
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Eastern Glory wrote:Bresc has done his dash I'd say. An unbelievable servant for Australia, but his time is up.
I wouldn't even mind seeing Milligan in that advance role. He's been excellent this tournament, and we know he can score goals. If we are picking on form Luongo, McKay and Milligan should be the midfield trio. We'll need there movement both on and off the ball, if we send out Jedi & Bresc together against Japan we'll be blown off the park.
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Link2588 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Bresc has done his dash I'd say. An unbelievable servant for Australia, but his time is up.
I wouldn't even mind seeing Milligan in that advance role. He's been excellent this tournament, and we know he can score goals. This Milligans decent but not nearly creative enough I think he should just be first drop for the padawan. Handy for a goal hear and there but I can't see it working if its his full time job to score / create Milligan or McKay can't create, let's just end it there. Also not one of our so called 'creators' moves enough off the ball to help create anything. Watch Bresh after he passes, stands still. Watch half of the team do this. It's a habit, fuck blaming the conditions or the pitch . This is why they get left out of their clubs squads for Belgians and Holland players. Not proactive enough. Troisi for Bresh any day of the week. lol'd at Sainsbury getting forward over the defensive mids. Fucking split the defense open a few times
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johnsmith wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Stop posting.
Did we play Japan? No. How can you draw a comparison between how we set up and played against China and how we set up and play against Japan. It's such a stupid fucking question. And obviously, by the way you set up the question, you are fishing for negative reactions.
Fuck off. Listen up. The purpose of forums, on this and other websites, is to encourage discussion. Some of the topics I post don't get a good response. This one seems to have stimulated some discussion. That's life. For all we know, the fact you post so much could mean you have no other life except on this forum. If you're depressed, and are the sort of person that takes it out on strangers, seek help, because you're probably doing the same thing to the people around you. =d> lol:-&
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Link2588
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TheSelectFew wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Bresc has done his dash I'd say. An unbelievable servant for Australia, but his time is up.
I wouldn't even mind seeing Milligan in that advance role. He's been excellent this tournament, and we know he can score goals. This Milligans decent but not nearly creative enough I think he should just be first drop for the padawan. Handy for a goal hear and there but I cant see it working if its his full time job to score / create
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TheSelectFew wrote:Stop posting.
Did we play Japan? No. How can you draw a comparison between how we set up and played against China and how we set up and play against Japan. It's such a stupid fucking question. And obviously, by the way you set up the question, you are fishing for negative reactions.
Fuck off. Listen up. The purpose of forums, on this and other websites, is to encourage discussion. Some of the topics I post don't get a good response. This one seems to have stimulated some discussion. That's life. For all we know, the fact you post so much could mean you have no other life except on this forum. If you're depressed, and are the sort of person that takes it out on strangers, seek help, because you're probably doing the same thing to the people around you.
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RBBAnonymous wrote:Based on the first half, no not even close. The second half we were better but we need to be at the top of our game to hang with Japan. They are a classy side with a lot of weapons to contain. To do it for 90 minutes will be difficult.
Need to play our strongest 11 on the park. I have a feeling we might revert to 2 holding midfielders in Jedi and Milligan but I think that would be a mistake. I thought Sainsbury was awesome tonight and with Spira coming back our central defence should be rock solid. I prefer Behich to Davidson on the left fullback. NO BRESIANO at all anywhere. Everyone else coming in can do the business. I can see Juric coming off the bench last 30-35 minutes especially if we are a goal down but I wouldnt start him. Should be a cracker of a game. Agree with all of this except I think Bresciano will make an appearance of the bench if we're chasing the game.
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they will murder us.. they are better attacking team then Korea
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biscuitman1871 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TSF has had a few tonight :lol: Free beer for every goal at the pub. \:d/ Two pot screamer? Must have been one hell of a night!!!
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JonoMV
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grazorblade wrote: Also I'd argue that most teams in asia are seriously underrated by a lot of Aussies. When we had a strong epl quality side we struggled against even the weaker teams in Asia apart from the occasional game
Underrated to an extent, we should be beating most teams in Asia that's a fact. Asia has a clear separation in class. Our World Cup 2010 qualification was a breeze, unbeaten in the final round, conceded 1 goal etc. We were terrible in World Cup qualifying in 2014, in what was possibly one of our weakest squads in history and what many fans considered to be an inept manager, yet we qualified directly. South Korea, Japan who have made the last 3 World Cups directly, Iran have made 2 of the last 3 World Cups directly. I feel as though these are the teams at the top of Asia. There are some ok second tier sides that can be competitive with the top sides but after that there is an enormous drop. Qualifying is more difficult due to the lack of preparation, travel, playing away etc. Japan and Korea normally separate themselves. In the past 15 years it is quite clear the most consistent sides have been Japan and Korea. Japan have made every world Cup directly and made the Semi Final or better at every Asian Cup since 2000, South Korea is the same and has made the Semi Final or better of every Asian Cup since 2000 except for one. The bigger sides generally, not always find a way to get through in the Asian Cup and WCQ even if they have slip ups on the way. Edited by jonomv: 23/1/2015 01:43:40 PM
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We can definitely beat Japan, the friendly last year showed that we can match them and we've improved since then The biggest worry is at each end of the park, making the sure the back 5 don't freak out and put Ryan under constant pressure and then getting the front 3 to convert chances, last night we should have had minimum 4 goals
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TSF has had a few tonight :lol: Free beer for every goal at the pub. \:d/ Two pot screamer?
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For whatever reason international level is different to club football
Technique seems even more important. There tends to be a twenty game adjustment period though some take longer, others never adjust
Not sure why
Also I'd argue that most teams in asia are seriously underrated by a lot of Aussies. When we had a strong epl quality side we struggled against even the weaker teams in Asia apart from the occasional game
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Eastern Glory wrote:stefcep wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:clockwork orange wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:God no.
Japan would have scored a goal every time Jedinak had hold of the ball.
-PB Fixed. That first half by Mile must be the worst half of football ever played by an Australian captain. Pretty sure Bresc turned it over more. Mile just had a poor touch and flung some wayward passes.-PB He'll get better, just needs to find his feet at international level. What does that even mean? Japan is probably the only Premier League quality side here... International level is usually much lower than what he plays. Beacsue his poor touch and wayward passes are a chronic problem, lower standard or not. And there's nothing "just" about it. Having a poor touch and wayward passing are damning for a midfielder. it shouldn't even be a discussion point at this level. We won doesn't mean we ignore it
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jas88
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I am really worried about:
Honda and Kagawa vs Davidson and Franjic.
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JonoMV
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Eastern Glory wrote:stefcep wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:clockwork orange wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:God no.
Japan would have scored a goal every time Jedinak had hold of the ball.
-PB Fixed. That first half by Mile must be the worst half of football ever played by an Australian captain. Pretty sure Bresc turned it over more. Mile just had a poor touch and flung some wayward passes.-PB He'll get better, just needs to find his feet at international level. What does that even mean? Japan is probably the only Premier League quality side here... International level is usually much lower than what he plays. x2
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JonoMV
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Even if we play horrible we have a chance to beat Japan.
They can't put away chances, they can't deal with physicality, they can't deal with crosses.
Anyone forgot the WCQ matches between the socceroos and japan? both finished 1-1 and we were shit :lol: the match in brisbane we were defending in the 6 yard box :lol: A slow oggy spent 90mins pushing, elbowing, pulling the Japanese striker who couldn't do anything with him.
Ange will have to tell the boys to whip in more crosses and play on the counter. This is why Japan has always had a lot of trouble against the Euro sides at the World Cup 2/7 wins against Euro sides at the World Cup. Ivory Coast beat them at the World Cup by countering well and using their physical strength. Greece drew with them at the World Cup playing with 10 men for an hour.
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