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+xThe right decision. It looks like Baird will be watering down the lockout laws aswell. It's almost like the government is letting people live their own lives. Don't really see how you can conflate the two.
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The right decision. It looks like Baird will be watering down the lockout laws aswell. It's almost like the government is letting people live their own lives.
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+xlol that's Baird done. -PB Good. Should've stuck to his guns.
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lol that's Baird done. -PB
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nice backflip on the ban. Hopefully the scum that so the illegal shit pull their heads in.
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When do NSWalers get a chance to vote these guys out?
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View from the fence wrote: Rekt. :lol: Couple of hundred metres to the north and they could have kept going!
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pv4 wrote:Pretty disappointed by this ban. I think I posted in here a while back that one of my dreams is to be in a syndicate with mates owning dogs, travel around following them etc. This almost definitely puts an end to that dream. The NSW Government are a bunch of gullible religious schmucks who pander to hysteria for cheap votes. The End.
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Check out the Border Park Raceway, right on the Qld border mega :lol: :lol: :lol: https://goo.gl/maps/ecNgbHDWt6yEdited by paladisious: 8/7/2016 12:32:21 PM
Winner of Official 442 Comment of the day Award - 10th April 2017
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Pretty disappointed by this ban. I think I posted in here a while back that one of my dreams is to be in a syndicate with mates owning dogs, travel around following them etc. This almost definitely puts an end to that dream.
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One issue related to football that this throws up is in Newcastle, Wallsend FC play in 2nd division (is it called NPL2 up here? Not sure). Anyway, their home ground is Birmingham Gardens (former Newcastle Breakers stadium, now current greyhound track). Their field is in the grass in the middle of the greyhound track. I believe the greyhound people own the stadium outright, so with this ban comes a whole heap of uncertainty about what the grandstand, and football facility will see in the future.
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Financial Review wrote:[size=7]Prime land freed after NSW government bans greyhound racing[/size] by Su-Lin Tan
Large parcels of land are set to be freed up after the NSW government made the shock announcement to shut down greyhound racing following evidence of systemic animal cruelty in the industry.
As racing operators struggle to come to grips with the decision, landowners will now have to consider alternative uses for the race tracks, some of which are as big as 30 hectares and close to residential development.
The government has confirmed it would not be turning race tracks situated on public Crown land – in particular the high-profile Wentworth Park track in the Sydney CBD – into commercial or residential development sites, but there are other privately owned tracks that could now be attractive to developers hungry for land suitable for housing projects. NSW has a shortage of housing supply.
"Wentworth Park is 100 per cent Crown land. There will be no residential and commercial use [for the track]," a spokesman for Premier Mike Baird said. "It would be open space and [for] community use."
The government also said in a statement the transition to wind down the industry over the next 12 months would ensure race tracks be used for "open public space, alternative sporting facilities or other community use".
A welfare plan for existing greyhounds and an adjustment package for industry participants would also be provided.
The Wentworth Park race track in the suburb of Ultimo is the most well-known of the 40 tracks in NSW and also one of Sydney's prime parcels of land. The facility shares space with the park's common green area and is just outside the boundary of NSW's highly touted Bays Precinct Transformation Program.
Urbangrowth NSW confirmed it has no current plans to connect the track into the the Bays Market District. It will only connect the common green.
Welcome news
Returning the track to public use was greatly welcomed by the City of Sydney Council which has long campaigned for the track to be removed. Like the NSW government, it did not want to see the track used for housing or retailing, it said in a Bays Precinct submission.
"Finally the government has put an end to this cruel and bloodthirsty sport," Sydney lord mayor Clover Moore said.
"Now it's time to return Wentworth Park to the City of Sydney as urgently needed open space for sports and recreation for the fast growing communities of Pyrmont, Ultimo and the Bays Precinct."
But the fate of other sites are in question.
The 30-hectare Richmond greyhound racing track is privately owned by the Richmond Race Club and has been used to run racing businesses since 1912. It is close to the booming northwest development corridor including Box Hill, Rouse Hill and Penrith a little further away.
Chinese developers Poly (Australia) Real Estate and Chiwayland recently announced house and apartment developments in Penrith.
"We are shocked at the news. We have been awaiting the report some 18 months and we were under the impression there will be strong recommendations from the report, but to find out the industry will be closed down has left us shocked," general manager Brad Adam said.
"It is just too early to make decisions. First thought is we have a sizeable piece of land with a function centre and liquor license and we need to decide how to use it best."
"We haven't considered [selling it for development] because it [has] historically … always been a racing track."
'Community spaces'
The 10-hectare Bulli race track is owned by the Wollongong City Council, which has no immediate plans to develop it.
"As far as we are concerned these are community spaces," Lord Mayor Gordon Bradbery said.
"At this stage [selling it for development] won't be anywhere on our radar. The issue is to intensify its usage for the community."
Community use includes markets and other festivals, he said.
The Appin Way race track in southwest Sydney is also privately owned and is close to Camden house and land developments.
Maitland and Dapto, both near the Sydney and Wollongong respectively, are owned by horticulture associations.
NSW is the first Australian state to ban greyhound racing after the "Special Commission of Inquiry into the Greyhound Racing Industry in NSW" found at least half of all greyhounds bred to race were killed in the past 12 years because they were deemed uncompetitive.
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BETHFC wrote:What happens to the thousands of greyhounds? There's about 10,000 of them in NSW apparently, I'd say even half of those being adopted is extremely optimistic. perthjay85 wrote:I also suspect a lot of trainers will move interstate where racing won't be stopped. This is the obvious one, and I imagine a lot of trainers would travel to races interstate anyway.
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BETHFC wrote:What happens to the thousands of greyhounds? yeah unfortunately a lot more will be put down in the next year than supposedly have been in the last 10 years. Hopefully this whole situation inspires people to adopt greyhounds because they are fantastic dogs. I also suspect a lot of trainers will move interstate where racing won't be stopped.
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BETHFC wrote:What happens to the thousands of greyhounds? Preliminary estimates suggest half to be re-homed, half to be put down.
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What happens to the thousands of greyhounds?
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Also bag of dicks to the racing industry This statement is ironic coming from a Victory fan LOL
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Also bag of dicks to the racing industry
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Piss poor decision that has ruined the livelihoods of thousands and will cost the economy millions.
Guess the punters will have to head off to the casino now instead. :roll:
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paladisious wrote:I wonder how many of these greyhound racetracks could make way for small rectangular stadia? :-k
There's one by Sandown raceway that would be prime position for a South East Melbourne facility. Was thinking the exact same thing but more on Wentworth Park. It's got a lot of history as a football ground but the location is so good that I'm sure there will be many competing interests for it.
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I wonder how many of these greyhound racetracks could make way for small rectangular stadia? :-k
There's one by Sandown raceway that would be prime position for a South East Melbourne facility.
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Good stuff. I might not be able to ride my bicycle in the middle of a lane, or without a helmet, or stop on it without putting my feet on the ground, nor may I buy wine or beer or gin at an alcohol shop after 22:00, nor may I enter anywhere to drink after 01:30, nor may I stay out past 03:00, but this makes up for it! Thanks Mikey!
In all honesty, this is a good ruling in my opinion. All animal racing is fucked, and I say that as someone who owns a (non-racing) horse... I think there might be a few other bigger issues around though Mike, you know, like peoples' lives?
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The course of action has been undertaken todayEDIT Wasnt greyhound racing on the Simpsons once? Edited by condemned666: 7/7/2016 07:07:36 PM
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paulbagzFC wrote: I like you :lol: \:d/ =d>
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u4486662 wrote:Scoey wrote:I'd like to state my opposition to live baiting and dirty practices in the racing industry, but also throw my support behind batfink and WSW baiting. Can't wait for the four corners expose on that. Hidden cameras in scotty21's house. Would be exceptional viewing haha. I'd like to see ACA throw their hat in the ring and tell the story their way. I'd love to see a journalist bring Batty to Scotty's door unannounced. Although with the amount of gay slurs and swearing I reckon half of the segment would have to be censored, so we would never be able to understand what's being said ;)
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Is this thread about chicks on live cam? Love that shit.
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Scoey wrote:I'd like to state my opposition to live baiting and dirty practices in the racing industry, but also throw my support behind batfink and WSW baiting. I like you :lol: \:d/ =d> -PB
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Scoey wrote:I'd like to state my opposition to live baiting and dirty practices in the racing industry, but also throw my support behind batfink and WSW baiting. Can't wait for the four corners expose on that. Hidden cameras in scotty21's house.
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I'd like to state my opposition to live baiting and dirty practices in the racing industry, but also throw my support behind batfink and WSW baiting.
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biscuitman1871 wrote:perthjay85 wrote:biscuitman1871 wrote:perthjay85 wrote:biscuitman1871 wrote:pv4 wrote:Greyhounds (well, particularly the racing type) are killers - there's a reason they have the muzzle and all that. They're so keen to chase that little rabbit because they think they're chasing food. It's instinct.
That's actually a bit of a misconception, encouraged by the law requiring muzzles which in WA goes back to 1927. In WA the Dog Act has recently been amended to enable appropriately retired racing greyhounds to return to the community as pets without having to wear a muzzle which is great and hopefully will help more find good homes. My folks have a retired greyhound (retired after one race as, despite apparently good breeding, it ran like it had three legs - sort of like the Steve McMahon Jr of greyhound racing). It is the gentlest dog I have ever come across and acts more like a cat than a dog. You are partly correct there BM, our personal ex racing greyhound has to be muzzled and held on to firmly, If he spots a plastic bag blowing away from him he thinks he has just entered a personal race and will chase down that piece of plastic. And this would probably be the same as a small animal running around. Same goes for quite a few of our dogs we have helped find homes. A lot of greyhounds will be fine and won't chase once they are completely domesticated, heck even our greyhound plays with our 3 cats and is fine with them. But if he spots something in the distance he will chase it down. There are now actual programs you can send your ex racing greyhound to that help train them and domesticate them. Then if everything goes well in certain states you can get color coded collars that show they are safe. This hasn't happened in WA yet but they have been trying to implement it for some time. It has happened in WA recently https://www.dlg.wa.gov.au/Content/Community/Dogownership/Factsheet_Greyhound.aspx Fantastic news. Spewing I hadn't seen it until now. Going to make rehoming a lot easier from now on hopefully. Used to go to Cannington a bit when I was younger and have thought about taking the kids out there but have heard it is a bit rough these days. Certainly looks pretty run down. What do you reckon? Unfortunately you are correct. It is a bit of a dive. They are planning on knocking it down and rebuilding it further back from Albany highway but it won't have a grand stand. If you want a good feed the restaurant is top quality for a buffet. Horribly overpriced on a saturday at around $90 per person with drinks. But Wednesday is good value, about $45 which includes a $2 bet and a other bits and pieces. Other than that you just missed out on the Perth cup where they have bouncy castles and all sorts. Also new years eve is a pretty big night for the kids as well.
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