imnofreak
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No chance of getting it What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Qatar in for 2018 [RUMOUR]? Have your say.
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jamo91
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cant see that beeing true
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StiflersMom
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Never know, old saying.. If you have a problem throw money at it. Qatar have plenty of that.
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OsakaDaz
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Qatar announced their intentions to do this ages ago.They have AFC support and their small country and good stadiums won't harm their chances.
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SydneyFCfan4Life
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who bloody cares in my opinon. Does anyone really want a world cup in a arab country? wheres its 60 degrees non stop
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Nico
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SydneyFCfan4Life wrote:who bloody cares in my opinon. Does anyone really want a world cup in a arab country? wheres its 60 degrees non stop Its 27 degrees in Doha right now... :-k Like people are saying, they have a lot of money. Its not impossible.
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imnofreak
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Oil=Money. Money helps but i dont really think FIFA will want to host it in a country linked with terrorism They want people and families to feel safe coming to the tournament Anyway
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Blyth Spartan
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What a terrible idea,but probable, England,Australia, should host it. Arabs have no idea about Football.
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Nico
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imnofreak wrote:Oil=Money. Money helps but i dont really think FIFA will want to host it in a country linked with terrorism They want people and families to feel safe coming to the tournament Anyway 2018 should be fine. Should be :p Imo All areas need to host a WC. Qatar is not a bad option. Lots of good resorts, rich area etc.
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imnofreak
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Blyth Spartan wrote:What a terrible idea,but probable, England,Australia, should host it. Arabs have no idea about Football. Ah and you know this because you have met and conferred with many arabs, such as the man city owners and Mohammad bin Hamman?? Edited by imnofreak: 3/10/2008 01:27:10 PM
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Spooney
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How many stadiums would they have though?
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actually, i wouldnt put it past Blatter and Warner to give it to Qatar.............money talks for those two, not the betterment of football.
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Nico
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But why wouldn't it be betterment of football? If anything, football has the ability to bring peace, and a change for the people of Qatar. How is Qatar getting the World Cup going to be a bad thing? Even with all the difficulties its had, South Africa was still a great choice IMO. Why always choose safe options like England & Germany and not try and have the game expand?
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Spooney wrote:How many stadiums would they have though? FIFA states you need a minimum of 8 with a minimum capacity of 40,000. It's impossible to do it with less than 8 anyway based on the number of games each stadia could hold with the minimum number or days between matches. That said, FIFA also only allow one city to have more than one venue (ala if Australia hosted Sydney could have 2, but then Melbourne could only have 1); it would be interesting in a country like Qatar who really only has 3-4 major cities capable of hosting large numbers of people. Not to mention the alcohol restrictions which would turn off alot of European travellers.
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Nico
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Maybe they could host it with UAE, and in particular Dubai?
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Blyth Spartan
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Nico wrote:Maybe they could host it with UAE, and in particular Dubai? Cant believe anyone is in favour of Qatar hosting anything,though I do note your avatar is desert themed. You need atmosphere at football matches,ie English,German,Australian,Turkish,Croatian,Scottish,Brazilian,imagine the quatar machine gunned military and anti alcohol laws being condusive to any world cup ,combine that with prayer music being sounded everywhere in arabic,what sort of festival would that be? Australia deserves the world cup,failing that England a place where beer and more beer is drank. A place where thousands of knowledgeable fans will turn up and even though neutral, will give those games credibility,not rent a crowd soccer mums as per 94 usa
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Nico wrote:But why wouldn't it be betterment of football? If anything, football has the ability to bring peace, and a change for the people of Qatar. How is Qatar getting the World Cup going to be a bad thing? Even with all the difficulties its had, South Africa was still a great choice IMO. Why always choose safe options like England & Germany and not try and have the game expand?
youve never lived in africa or any other place like that have you. yes its good to give the game to developing countries so as to create that exposure and build the game and give other countries a chance, but the implications of failure in these countries is far worse than failure in a european country. the aftermath of what is left from the world cup in south africa can be quite bad. the place is ridden with crime and corruption. just like in qatar it will be about a select few politicians wanting to take all the rewards and returns for themselves, hence the spectacle would be good, but the aftermath of it all could actually create more corruption...
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Nico
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Right, so the chance of corruption in TEN YEARS TIME, means we should deprive the people of Qatar the opportunity to have such games? Qatar has a high standard of living anyway. The chance of corruption is so much smaller there. Blyth, that is a stupid thing to say. Prayer music in Arabic? Are you kidding? Get some culture. I'm sure the alcohol laws would be worked around, and if not, who would listen to them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0jQ_1m0Ik Some people just seem afraid because of the link between terror and Arabs. Its nonsense. Of course I want Australia to get the Cup, but I'd have no issues with Qatar getting it. I'd certainly have no issue going there.
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Blyth Spartan
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Nico wrote:Right, so the chance of corruption in TEN YEARS TIME, means we should deprive the people of Qatar the opportunity to have such games? Qatar has a high standard of living anyway. The chance of corruption is so much smaller there. Blyth, that is a stupid thing to say. Prayer music in Arabic? Are you kidding? Get some culture. I'm sure the alcohol laws would be worked around, and if not, who would listen to them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0jQ_1m0Ik Some people just seem afraid because of the link between terror and Arabs. Its nonsense. Of course I want Australia to get the Cup, but I'd have no issues with Qatar getting it. I'd certainly have no issue going there. Have you heard the games where prayer music in arabic is blared over loudspeakers(ok Iam not fluent in arabic) is it not prayer music ? The point is the atmosphere would be dulla and totalitarian,and as far as by passing islamic alcohol laws if you are suicidal do it(you can do it in private but not in public,machine guns kill ,batons rarely do.
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Blyth Spartan wrote:Nico wrote:Right, so the chance of corruption in TEN YEARS TIME, means we should deprive the people of Qatar the opportunity to have such games? Qatar has a high standard of living anyway. The chance of corruption is so much smaller there. Blyth, that is a stupid thing to say. Prayer music in Arabic? Are you kidding? Get some culture. I'm sure the alcohol laws would be worked around, and if not, who would listen to them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0jQ_1m0Ik Some people just seem afraid because of the link between terror and Arabs. Its nonsense. Of course I want Australia to get the Cup, but I'd have no issues with Qatar getting it. I'd certainly have no issue going there. Have you heard the games where prayer music in arabic is blared over loudspeakers(ok Iam not fluent in arabic) is it not prayer music ? The point is the atmosphere would be dulla and totalitarian,and as far as by passing islamic alcohol laws if you are suicidal do it(you can do it in private but not in public,machine guns kill ,batons rarely do. How english of you cant have atmosphere with out alchol, your views are incredibly xenophobic qatar is not filled with people totting guns also arabs are crazy about football, the best footballer of this generation is from an arabic backgroung i.e zidane
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Its a good point nr690. It really is a joke to think that Doha is the same as Baghdad or something... Qatar is a wealthy place. Its a good place to bring the game to the middle east and let them see it.
Besides Blyth, it shouldn't matter where it is, you'll get to watch it wherever you want on your holographic field :P.
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Blyth Spartan wrote:Nico wrote:Maybe they could host it with UAE, and in particular Dubai? Cant believe anyone is in favour of Qatar hosting anything,though I do note your avatar is desert themed. Your kidding right?
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About the Avatar? There's a few who don't get it...
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Nico wrote:Its a good point nr690. It really is a joke to think that Doha is the same as Baghdad or something... Qatar is a wealthy place. Its a good place to bring the game to the middle east and let them see it.
Besides Blyth, it shouldn't matter where it is, you'll get to watch it wherever you want on your holographic field :P. Ok Iam not a Qatar expert,but alcohol and Football are like Hp sauce and chips,tomato sauce and pies,man and woman,ect ect,I notice you a Middle east expert did not answer the genuine query about chants on middle eastern games involving aussie teams (in middle east) and other asian muslim places, there is nothing wrong with this ,it just does not suggest a place for traditional football fans. I dare say you would have a world cup of half empty stadiums with machine gunned security facing four thousand glum looking England and australian fans. Afraid to raise their arms in fear of being gunned down. If you think the Middle east is a fun place,ask those who flee due to repression and persecution ,no it is not a fun place,and shame on the west for that.
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Blyth Spartan wrote: I dare say you would have a world cup of half empty stadiums with machine gunned security facing four thousand glum looking England and australian fans. Afraid to raise their arms in fear of being gunned down.
Where do you get this idea from? You are pretty close minded. I have been to Muslim countries like Malaysia. They are hardly the way you speak of them. I've been to Communist countries and they are not that bad FFS. Qatar is not the way you picture it.
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Blyth Spartan
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Nico wrote:Blyth Spartan wrote: I dare say you would have a world cup of half empty stadiums with machine gunned security facing four thousand glum looking England and australian fans. Afraid to raise their arms in fear of being gunned down.
Where do you get this idea from? You are pretty close minded. I have been to Muslim countries like Malaysia. They are hardly the way you speak of them. I've been to Communist countries and they are not that bad FFS. Qatar is not the way you picture it. Ok but what about the loudspeaker chants is this not true? I have been to the middle east, I sympathise with the plight of the lebanese Iraqis and palestinians who were forced to leave their beloved lands,all Iam saying is... this is not the atmosphere for Football, in Dubai,it takes two hours to travel 5km,the traffic is choked the climate in the northern summer is around 45c ,they come to the gold coast to escape the heat every year. Imagine playing Football in such heat? Iam not closed minded,do you know what the middle east is facing?
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Nico
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Sure, I know what they are facing and it wouldn't be easy. BUT, they have plenty of cash. The issue of climate is hard, but even A-league needs to deal with the summer of 40 degrees +. short drink breaks may be necessary in extreme conditions.
In regards to alcohol and loudspeaker chants, it may need to be worked around, and I am quite sure that if it comes down to it, Qatar would allow alcohol permits of some sort, and loudspeaker chants would be banned if it meant they could hold rites. Obviously there are issues, I don't doubt that. I just would like to see all continents and areas get the game and maximums its potential, both for the good of the game and the country and region itself.
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Blyth Spartan
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Nico wrote:Sure, I know what they are facing and it wouldn't be easy. BUT, they have plenty of cash. The issue of climate is hard, but even A-league needs to deal with the summer of 40 degrees +. short drink breaks may be necessary in extreme conditions.
In regards to alcohol and loudspeaker chants, it may need to be worked around, and I am quite sure that if it comes down to it, Qatar would allow alcohol permits of some sort, and loudspeaker chants would be banned if it meant they could hold rites. Obviously there are issues, I don't doubt that. I just would like to see all continents and areas get the game and maximums its potential, both for the good of the game and the country and region itself. Agree ,but why not go the whole way and include Palestine,Iraq,Lebanon,syria,sudan,as co hosts,out of respect for arab history? That would be a aim worth busting the gut for,it would be a chance for the arab nations to show they can put aside the differences,and unite in peace. Lebanon was and is a beautiful country,politics and deception has destroyed its peaceability,a world cup co hosted by several middle eastern countries(not just Qatarthe puppet regime would be a great idea.
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Nico
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Its a nice thought. I just think there is a great difference between Qatar and Iraq, Sudan etc. Much more difficult and then you really do have a safety issue. Qatar would give the opportunity for all these countries to feel important, yet it wouldn't really endanger anyone any more than any other World Cup. If in time these countries become more stable, then yes I agree.
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Nico wrote:Right, so the chance of corruption in TEN YEARS TIME, means we should deprive the people of Qatar the opportunity to have such games? Qatar has a high standard of living anyway. The chance of corruption is so much smaller there. Blyth, that is a stupid thing to say. Prayer music in Arabic? Are you kidding? Get some culture. I'm sure the alcohol laws would be worked around, and if not, who would listen to them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0jQ_1m0Ik Some people just seem afraid because of the link between terror and Arabs. Its nonsense. Of course I want Australia to get the Cup, but I'd have no issues with Qatar getting it. I'd certainly have no issue going there. im not talking about 10 years time. im talking about 1 or 2. the initial period after will be the period of serious note.
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Fair enough, I am no expert on South African politics. I do hope it works out well though, and all I can say is Qatar seems a very different place.
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Nico wrote:About the Avatar? There's a few who don't get it... wtf is it?
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Nico
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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Johnny Depp more specifically. Go rent it if your 18/know someone who is 18.
Edited by Nico: 4/10/2008 09:36:25 PM
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Youve said that before Nico. Like its compulsary viewing. :lol:
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mk0825 wrote:Youve said that before Nico. Like its compulsary viewing. :lol: It IS compulsory viewing:p
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Nico wrote:About the Avatar? There's a few who don't get it... I was just saying are you kidding because I didnt think he was being serious relating your avatar to the fact that you supported Qatar for the cup. lol
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Funky Munky wrote:mk0825 wrote:Youve said that before Nico. Like its compulsary viewing. :lol: It IS compulsory viewing:p Its a fucjing sweet movie. In fact im so drunk right now, I think its worht a awtch :P
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Nico wrote:Funky Munky wrote:mk0825 wrote:Youve said that before Nico. Like its compulsary viewing. :lol: It IS compulsory viewing:p Its a fucjing sweet movie. In fact im so drunk right now, I think its worht a awtch :P :lol: :lol: That's exactly what this forum needs tbh, drunken posting:p
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Nico
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I kbnow aye? I've been thinking that. Blyth gets his own area, maybve I should have my own drunken rant thread? It seems to be quoite often that i get on here drunk these days too...
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Funky Munky
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Maybe not your own Drunken Rant thread, but just a Drunken Rant thread for everyone to use.I for one would find it very entertaining.
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Nico
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Well thats what I meant. Then again, how many drunkien ranters do we have?
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Funky Munky
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Not many. But maybe having the thread there would inspire people to drink more, and thus rant more...
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Nico
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It certainly jhas potential. It trequires more than me though. Or, atleast more than how drunk I am now, cause I don't have much to actually rant about :P. Except this daylight sayings crap which is going to ruin all my recovery sleep...
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Funky Munky
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Yeah, you're not making enough spelling mistakes to be considered in the 'drunken rant' phase:p...I'd certainly help out, but I'm not sure getting drunk at 5am is the best idea...:p
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Nico
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I'm rarely rarely drink this ealru/late. Its this stupid time jumping I swear. Will also ruin all early Prem games this season too. I'll be proper drunk next Friday, tisd a good a mates 18th. I'm thinking any possible theread will be created then. It recommend you help out then :P
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Funky Munky
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Haha, no shit, My birthday is the day after, so I'll probably be saving the drinking for that night:p
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Nico
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Well I expect you to add to it the following night, or even day after when you manage to find your home :P.
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Haha, I shall try my best. Anyway, It's 5am, and I really should get to bed, supposed to be getting up early tomorrow/today, whatever it fucking is. Enjoy waking up mate:p
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Nico
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haha thanks. Enjoy your sleep.
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so.... Qatar? :P I hav a feeling we wont see nico until about 4pm
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Nico
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You wish. :P
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:shock: Your up!! Hows your head :P
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Nico
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Fine, Fine. Beer is good with being considerate to ones head in the morning. Just the weekly night out really... Not as big as last weekend when I finished year 12 :P. Now THAT was a headache.
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hahahah. Im suprised you remember it at all.
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Nico
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Hey, I put some solid sentences together last night/this morning.
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Solid? Yes. Cohesive? Well....um.... haha
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Logistically this would be a nightmare. Qatar would have to come up with a massive infrastructure plan to compensate millions of tourists and hundreds of thousands fans coming to watch the games and ceremonies. This would need to be included in the Bid, a more Central location in Asia would be more feasable, however looks like England is definitely a go.
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Good Stadiums? Money? Who gives a fuck. The country is the size of a bee's dick! What are they going to do? Build 8 stadiums in like a 4km radius? They will host joint with UAE, no other way.
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teasa31 wrote:Good Stadiums? Money? Who gives a fuck. The country is the size of a bee's dick! What are they going to do? Build 8 stadiums in like a 4km radius? They will host joint with UAE, no other way. England is the size of a 'bee's dick', yet theyve managed
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to be honest, no offence to qatar no one knew them untill they started making billions from oil and thats the only thing that fifa want but can they stage the world's biggest sporting event? no, ill be surprised if they can sell out a 20.000 seater stadium
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You mean you didn't know who they were. I'm sure plenty of people don't know anything about Australia.
How good does a host's National team have to be? If we qualify for 2010 then you'd think we'd have a good enough reputation to get it over Qatar.
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Benchwarmer wrote:How good does a host's National team have to be? If we qualify for 2010 then you'd think we'd have a good enough reputation to get it over Qatar. USA in 94 Korea/Japan 2002 South Africa 2010 Host nation doesn't have to be "good". FIFA uses the World Cup to boost the sport's profile in those nations.
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Is our profile 'too boosted' then?
Having said that, the WC in Australia would surely/hopefully have a trickle down effect to the Pacific nations.
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