Nice work, so where will the 8 teams in Victoria be?

Would be awesome.

i dont mind this either. at the end of the day we have more australians playing the game and we need as many as possible to be playing to grow the socceroos talent pool. it'll only be good for our national team

add Canberra, Woolongong, Sutherland, Hobart and Geelong to make it a 16 team competition. the more teams the better it is for our league

Yep thats a fair coverage imo williamn.

no reason why we can't have:
Sydney fc: eastern suburbs, city, inner west 800k
wsw: parra, Penrith, Blacktown, Fairfield 800k
Southern Sydney: st George, shire, Bankstown 800k
Northern spirit: kuringai, North Sydney, Chatswood 800k
South-western Sydney: Liverpool, MacArthur, Campbelltown, badgers creek 600k
Newcastle 500k
Central Coast 350k
Wollongong 400k

The 19k figure for Sutherland is in line with the 8% growth that Gallop forecast for the whole of Australia with a total 45k increase across the country possible. I heard a figure greater than 10% mentioned for NNSW and early preseason figures from some of the District Associations in Sydney were over 5% increase. This will be a great outcome of the World Cup/Asian Cup double up affecting the one season.

Exactly.

As I've said before, I'd prefer a Shire only team rather then one shared with Wollongong even if it means not having a team.

As long as they are not a travelling circus not fussed where the next NSW A-League team comes from.

But you are either one or the other

yeah....but i could live with that......:lol:

with a teak north of sydney it could be either CCM or newcastle but both to me don't make sense, one or the other...

sorry:cry:

Hum, whats pubs got to do with with the amount of registrations from either district (NSFA GHFA for eg).......

IMO a team can work on the north side - Spirit started off great but for the Glasgow f ups going pear shaped otherwise it would have prevailed.
I don't attend games what pubs are around the vicinity and I'm sure most don't.
Mind you Percys across the road from Nth Syd Oval was damn perfect lol.......but only because it was there !

Chilly re your question - I don't think it can grow more, mind you womens regos I expect will keep going up, grounds would very much be the issue at hand without knowing the facts.

Campbelltown Stadium has a capacity of 20k but has only 13k seats.

The southwest has to be the next Sydney area to get a HAL side, build up the MacArthur Rams to avoid the stigma of the Campbelltown name. That bastion of truth Wikipedia says their stadium has a 20k capacity, I think they may have slipped an extra zero in there, South Melbourne style.

Edited by crusader: 24/4/2015 09:35:50 AM

A lot of Gladesville-Hornsby clubs are next door to Parramatta.

But then we would never have kicked your arse in the season 8 final :(

i really think one of the teams north of sydney should have been south really......

like perhaps, SYDFC, WSWFC, Newcastle, wollongong rather than two team up the coast

They weren't race riots.

It was a mere defence of 'STRAYA C*NT!

You're not even the biggest Shire in Sydney, f*** off.

Sydney's biggest shire would never have race riots. Scum.

How big are those areas compared to Sutherland? Do they have any more growing room? Sutherland can't grow any more as it is now. The grounds are already well past saturation.

Spot on Shatter, Sutho wins out overall due to 5,000 women players.
Another interesting stat is number of clubs - NSFA/Kuringgai/GHFA both having 34 clubs Sutho 26.

northern spirit

Bingo :lol:

-PB

Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM

If hypothetically there was a A2 comp and Sutherland Sharks were to be in it, I think Seymour Shaw would be a great boutique ground.

Kogarah (Jubilee Oval) is council owned, and the main lease (20 year lease I think it was) is from the Dragons which they want to subsequently offer a sub lease to the FFA for the national team to train at.

In a nut shell the Dragons are broke, they play their home games out of 5 grounds to cover costs and are looking to make a easy buck.

Now if the FFA held the main lease, that would be a different story.

Wollongong

I for one was talking about Sutherland Sharks to begin with.

If it was good enough for Ikon, it's good enough for the A2.

Seymour Shaw isn't big enough for an A-League team. It's fine for the Sharks at the moment because they're playing in the NPL, and get next to no crowds anyway. If they get into the Ro32 for the FFA Cup against an A-League team, that will look great, but for an A-League team Shark Park is the way to go.

Aren't the FFA looking to buy Kogarah Oval?

Kogarah ain't gonna get one cent more out of the govt. Doust and co can do one!

It got its redevelopment when the dirty Dragons wanted and got Sydney Olympic to play out of there, got the govt funding and fixed it up then punted them..

Previous attempts to line a football team with a rugby league of afl team has failed. Parra Power, Collingwood Warriors, Olympic Sharks and Carlton spring to mind.

If they wanna get a team up and ready for an A2 comp then they shouldn't start a fresh with a team rather they should start pumping dosh into the Sutherland Sharks (no affiliation with Cronulla Sharks) and like you said, Seymour Shaw is a great oval and would be a great place for them to start.

Shark Park is 1000x better stadium than Kogarah, unless Kogarah was to undergo some pretty extensive redeveloping.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.