Sutherland Shire Football dominates: 19,000 players, 1570 teams and 61 fields


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SUTHERLAND Shire Football Association is the No. 1 organisation of its kind in the southern hemisphere, now topping more than 19,000 registered players.

That is the official word from Eddie Moore, general manager of the state governing body, Football NSW.

"It is a phenomenal effort from everyone involved in the sport in what is an ever growing region for football," Moore said.

"This equates to more than 1570 teams using 61 football fields. We are up 1400 players from registrations in 2014.

"These numbers alone exceed the entire rugby league and rugby union population in the shire, headlining football as the No. 1 sport."

Association general manager Jeff Stewart said the code was getting bigger.

"We have had to turn players away," he said.

"It's a great sense of achievement for the many volunteers to know they deliver a community-based sport to shire residents, with all money ploughed back into the local game without the need to make a profit for the shareholders.

"Almost one third of our players are female which shows the wide appeal of football."
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Chris Ikonomidis. Picture: by Dennis Grombkowski/Getty Images

Chris Ikonomidis. Picture: by Dennis Grombkowski/Getty Images

The association has been a production line fortop players and coaches such as:

■ A-league, Sydney FC coach and Socceroos former player, Graham Arnold who came from Gwawley Bay;

■ Sydney FC youngsters Alex Gersbach and Chris Naumoff;

■ Dean Bouzanis at Western Sydney Wanderers;

■ goalkeeper Jack Duncan, at Perth Glory;

■ Socceroo Chris Ikonomidis (pictured above) who came from Cronulla RSL.

http://www.theleader.com.au/story/3029058/football-dominates-19000-players-1570-teams-and-61-fields/
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I know what this is about. No, you can't have a team, that would be a stupid idea and would fail.
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Freddie AppsHero wrote:
I know what this is about. No, you can't have a team, that would be a stupid idea and would fail.


Correct. Most of those players and teams support SFC.







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sydney fc can cater for the city, inner west and eastern suburbs. a southern sydney club can cater for the shire, the airport, st george and bankstown. time to bring them in. will be a fun away day travelling to kogarah. if a-league is to be a strong 16 team competition we need more big city clubs. than having only 4 from our 2 biggest cities.
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williamn wrote:
sydney fc can cater for the city, inner west and eastern suburbs. a southern sydney club can cater for the shire, the airport, st george and bankstown. time to bring them in. will be a fun away day travelling to kogarah. if a-league is to be a strong 16 team competition we need more big city clubs. than having only 4 from our 2 biggest cities.

Mate you just want to see a sequel to the Cronulla Riots don't you. :lol:
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Wollongong should get a team in before the shire does, and they can form some kind of partnership if that suits..

But a team based in the shire and playing out of Kogarah or Cronulla....nope.
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Fairly sure this is more about improving football's impression when decisions are made and therefore ability to have a greater influence in the outcome rather than putting a team in a certain area.
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Wollongong should get a team in before the shire does, and they can form some kind of partnership if that suits..

But a team based in the shire and playing out of Kogarah or Cronulla....nope.


I see more SFC merch in Wollongong when I'm down there than in Sydney tbh.
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Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.
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paladisious wrote:
Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.

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Shark Park is 1000x better stadium than Kogarah, unless Kogarah was to undergo some pretty extensive redeveloping.

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paladisious wrote:
Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.


Previous attempts to line a football team with a rugby league of afl team has failed. Parra Power, Collingwood Warriors, Olympic Sharks and Carlton spring to mind.

If they wanna get a team up and ready for an A2 comp then they shouldn't start a fresh with a team rather they should start pumping dosh into the Sutherland Sharks (no affiliation with Cronulla Sharks) and like you said, Seymour Shaw is a great oval and would be a great place for them to start.
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Eldar wrote:
Shark Park is 1000x better stadium than Kogarah, unless Kogarah was to undergo some pretty extensive redeveloping.


Kogarah ain't gonna get one cent more out of the govt. Doust and co can do one!

It got its redevelopment when the dirty Dragons wanted and got Sydney Olympic to play out of there, got the govt funding and fixed it up then punted them..
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Machine wrote:
Heineken wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.


Previous attempts to line a football team with a rugby league of afl team has failed. Parra Power, Collingwood Warriors, Olympic Sharks and Carlton spring to mind.

If they wanna get a team up and ready for an A2 comp then they shouldn't start a fresh with a team rather they should start pumping dosh into the Sutherland Sharks (no affiliation with Cronulla Sharks) and like you said, Seymour Shaw is a great oval and would be a great place for them to start.

Seymour Shaw isn't big enough for an A-League team. It's fine for the Sharks at the moment because they're playing in the NPL, and get next to no crowds anyway. If they get into the Ro32 for the FFA Cup against an A-League team, that will look great, but for an A-League team Shark Park is the way to go.

Aren't the FFA looking to buy Kogarah Oval?

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Machine wrote:
Heineken wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.


Previous attempts to line a football team with a rugby league of afl team has failed. Parra Power, Collingwood Warriors, Olympic Sharks and Carlton spring to mind.

If they wanna get a team up and ready for an A2 comp then they shouldn't start a fresh with a team rather they should start pumping dosh into the Sutherland Sharks (no affiliation with Cronulla Sharks) and like you said, Seymour Shaw is a great oval and would be a great place for them to start.

I for one was talking about Sutherland Sharks to begin with.

If it was good enough for Ikon, it's good enough for the A2.
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Heineken wrote:
Machine wrote:
Heineken wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.


Previous attempts to line a football team with a rugby league of afl team has failed. Parra Power, Collingwood Warriors, Olympic Sharks and Carlton spring to mind.

If they wanna get a team up and ready for an A2 comp then they shouldn't start a fresh with a team rather they should start pumping dosh into the Sutherland Sharks (no affiliation with Cronulla Sharks) and like you said, Seymour Shaw is a great oval and would be a great place for them to start.

Seymour Shaw isn't big enough for an A-League team. It's fine for the Sharks at the moment because they're playing in the NPL, and get next to no crowds anyway. If they get into the Ro32 for the FFA Cup against an A-League team, that will look great, but for an A-League team Shark Park is the way to go.

Aren't the FFA looking to buy Kogarah Oval?


If hypothetically there was a A2 comp and Sutherland Sharks were to be in it, I think Seymour Shaw would be a great boutique ground.

Kogarah (Jubilee Oval) is council owned, and the main lease (20 year lease I think it was) is from the Dragons which they want to subsequently offer a sub lease to the FFA for the national team to train at.

In a nut shell the Dragons are broke, they play their home games out of 5 grounds to cover costs and are looking to make a easy buck.

Now if the FFA held the main lease, that would be a different story.
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Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM
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Freddie AppsHero wrote:
I know what this is about. No, you can't have a team, that would be a stupid idea and would fail.


Bingo :lol:

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Shatter wrote:
Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM


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Shatter wrote:
Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM


Spot on Shatter, Sutho wins out overall due to 5,000 women players.
Another interesting stat is number of clubs - NSFA/Kuringgai/GHFA both having 34 clubs Sutho 26.


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Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM


Spot on Shatter, Sutho wins out overall due to 5,000 women players.
Another interesting stat is number of clubs - NSFA/Kuringgai/GHFA both having 34 clubs Sutho 26.

How big are those areas compared to Sutherland? Do they have any more growing room? Sutherland can't grow any more as it is now. The grounds are already well past saturation.
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You're not even the biggest Shire in Sydney, f*** off.

Sydney's biggest shire would never have race riots. Scum.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
You're not even the biggest Shire in Sydney, f*** off.

Sydney's biggest shire would never have race riots. Scum.

They weren't race riots.

It was a mere defence of 'STRAYA C*NT!

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i really think one of the teams north of sydney should have been south really......

like perhaps, SYDFC, WSWFC, Newcastle, wollongong rather than two team up the coast
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i really think one of the teams north of sydney should have been south really......

like perhaps, SYDFC, WSWFC, Newcastle, wollongong rather than two team up the coast


But then we would never have kicked your arse in the season 8 final :(
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Shatter wrote:
Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM


A lot of Gladesville-Hornsby clubs are next door to Parramatta.

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The southwest has to be the next Sydney area to get a HAL side, build up the MacArthur Rams to avoid the stigma of the Campbelltown name. That bastion of truth Wikipedia says their stadium has a 20k capacity, I think they may have slipped an extra zero in there, South Melbourne style.

Edited by crusader: 24/4/2015 09:35:50 AM
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Crusader wrote:
The southwest has to be the next Sydney area to get a HAL side, build up the MacArthur Rams to avoid the stigma of the Campbelltown name. That bastion of truth Wikipedia says their stadium has a 20k capacity, I think they may have slipped an extra zero in there, South Melbourne style.

Edited by crusader: 24/4/2015 09:35:50 AM


Campbelltown Stadium has a capacity of 20k but has only 13k seats.
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Helloworld1992 wrote:
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Out of interest, I went in to the FNSW Annual Report. Whilst Sutherland dominates overall player registration, I found it interesting that Northern Suburbs (formerly Kuringgai) and Gladesville-Hornsby are the top two Associations for male players, whilst Northern Suburbs (2nd), Manly (3rd) and Gladesville-Hornsby (6th) around 45,000 players. It's a shame no professional has ever been able to really tap in to the North Shore and Beaches. To give a comparison, the whole of Victoria only has about 50k registered players from memory.

Edited by Shatter: 23/4/2015 09:16:11 PM


northern spirit


The Kuringgai district has no entertainment culture. In fact there's rarely anything happening there. If anyone from the Northern suburbs wishes to get involved in cultural festivities; whether that be in a sporting sense, food, music etc., North Shore isn't the place to be. There's barely any pubs in the North Shore/Kuringgai district and hence everyone from that area just heads into the city on a weekend. Thus, a sports team based in the northern suburbs (even in North Sydney) will never work.

Just my two cents on views of a northern suburbs team.

Edited by helloworld1992: 23/4/2015 11:49:53 PM


Hum, whats pubs got to do with with the amount of registrations from either district (NSFA GHFA for eg).......

IMO a team can work on the north side - Spirit started off great but for the Glasgow f ups going pear shaped otherwise it would have prevailed.
I don't attend games what pubs are around the vicinity and I'm sure most don't.
Mind you Percys across the road from Nth Syd Oval was damn perfect lol.......but only because it was there !

Chilly re your question - I don't think it can grow more, mind you womens regos I expect will keep going up, grounds would very much be the issue at hand without knowing the facts.


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RedshirtWilly wrote:
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i really think one of the teams north of sydney should have been south really......

like perhaps, SYDFC, WSWFC, Newcastle, wollongong rather than two team up the coast


But then we would never have kicked your arse in the season 8 final :(


yeah....but i could live with that......:lol:

with a teak north of sydney it could be either CCM or newcastle but both to me don't make sense, one or the other...

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As long as they are not a travelling circus not fussed where the next NSW A-League team comes from.

But you are either one or the other
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Timmo wrote:

As long as they are not a travelling circus not fussed where the next NSW A-League team comes from.

Exactly.

As I've said before, I'd prefer a Shire only team rather then one shared with Wollongong even if it means not having a team.
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The 19k figure for Sutherland is in line with the 8% growth that Gallop forecast for the whole of Australia with a total 45k increase across the country possible. I heard a figure greater than 10% mentioned for NNSW and early preseason figures from some of the District Associations in Sydney were over 5% increase. This will be a great outcome of the World Cup/Asian Cup double up affecting the one season.
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no reason why we can't have:
Sydney fc: eastern suburbs, city, inner west 800k
wsw: parra, Penrith, Blacktown, Fairfield 800k
Southern Sydney: st George, shire, Bankstown 800k
Northern spirit: kuringai, North Sydney, Chatswood 800k
South-western Sydney: Liverpool, MacArthur, Campbelltown, badgers creek 600k
Newcastle 500k
Central Coast 350k
Wollongong 400k
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Yep thats a fair coverage imo williamn.

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Heineken wrote:
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Sharks for A2-League, if only for talent pathway reasons.

This is more along the lines that I think. Instead of creating a new, sterile franchise based out of 'Southern Sydney/Shire', the FFA should be looking at ways of growing the Sutherland Sharks and turning them into a professional outfit. They have an already decent youth system in place, as evidenced by the large number of youth players from them that are playing in the Youth League, and obviously (if this article is anything to go by) an extremely large talent pool to choose from.

I would actually be supportive of a Sutherland Shire/Southern Sydney team if Sutherland Sharks were to have investors come in and look at turning them into a professional club either for the A-League or even the A2 League (if that is to ever become a thing). It could play out of Shark Park, and the smart thing to do would be to also partner up with the Cronulla Sharks. God knows they need a bit of support at the moment, and would definitely help increase the clubs supporter base. Play games out of Shark Park, which is a perfect sized (communuty) ground for the A-League, and all the Youth Teams can play out of Seymour Shaw, which is IIRC was the first NSW Premier League club to move to an artificial surface.


i dont mind this either. at the end of the day we have more australians playing the game and we need as many as possible to be playing to grow the socceroos talent pool. it'll only be good for our national team

add Canberra, Woolongong, Sutherland, Hobart and Geelong to make it a 16 team competition. the more teams the better it is for our league
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williamn wrote:
no reason why we can't have:
Sydney fc: eastern suburbs, city, inner west 800k
wsw: parra, Penrith, Blacktown, Fairfield 800k
Southern Sydney: st George, shire, Bankstown 800k
Northern spirit: kuringai, North Sydney, Chatswood 800k
South-western Sydney: Liverpool, MacArthur, Campbelltown, badgers creek 600k
Newcastle 500k
Central Coast 350k
Wollongong 400k


Would be awesome.
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williamn wrote:
no reason why we can't have:
Sydney fc: eastern suburbs, city, inner west 800k
wsw: parra, Penrith, Blacktown, Fairfield 800k
Southern Sydney: st George, shire, Bankstown 800k
Northern spirit: kuringai, North Sydney, Chatswood 800k
South-western Sydney: Liverpool, MacArthur, Campbelltown, badgers creek 600k
Newcastle 500k
Central Coast 350k
Wollongong 400k


Nice work, so where will the 8 teams in Victoria be?

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