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To put it out their. Don't support ANY AFL Club.

Do not go and watch any AFL game live and if someone gives you free tickets, tear them up.

Also, stop watching the fumble ballers on TV as well..

Time to take a stand football supporters.

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Lastbroadcast - 25 Oct 2017 10:32 PM
If the state government gives any oval shaped stadium a cent, I fucking quit. This decision should have been finalised ages ago. It’s so obvious that rectangular stadiums need an upgrade, but by stalling, Stuart Ayres has allowed every rent seeker in Sydney to smell blood and throw their hat back in. He is such a moron. At least we know the battle lines have been drawn. SCG Trust + AFL + Cricket Australia on one sideVersus the FFA, Rugby League and the ARU on the other. The SCG does not need further work done now. The Trumper stand and the new Bradman-Noble stand (members) are less than ten years old. That spin about the SCG being “fifth in facilities” is the biggest load of horseshit in the world.

The ARU are cowards and sided with the SCG trust.

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Davo1985 - 25 Oct 2017 10:17 AM
The AFL fucking infuriates me. These are the reasons why I cannot and will not ever support both codes. People say we can live happily with multiple codes but the reality when you have an organisation as cut throat as this when in reality it's clear the reasoning behind it ins't for pure benefit of its fans of its sport but instead as way to ensure no other codes can provide a top quality product then you know you're dealing with a    - oops, I just ate my own poop... of an organisation.

The NRL and FFA should come together and tell the Government that if they bend to the ridiculous last minute demands of the AFL that all State of Origins, Grand Finals for both codes as well as football internationals will be diverted elsewhere for the next 10 years. If the codes join forces against the AFL, we will get what we want. Need to stand firm.

They already have Davo.

FFA/Wsw
NRL/Souths/Eels/Dogs/West Tigers

All Ceo's for these clubs and the head offices have written a joint letter together stating there wishes for ANZ to take priority and the lions share of funding to make it a world class rectangular venue.

The consequences have already been made known to the NSW government by the NRL.

FFA should come out and let them know what they stand to loose from the Football side of things, i don't think they have done that yet.

If we do not get what we want, i will boycott ANZ for good. Hopefully get Ayres and the liberals destroyed at the next election.



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I'd prefer to see Moore park done first. Would benefit SFC and the rugby codes day to day. 

ANZ will not be oval. There is no need for it. But as a concession they may be able to leverage and upgrade to the SCG. Which I imagine is their end game. The SCG does need some more love and the AFL and cricket should be lobbying for it to be upgraded but where it sits in the pecking order is probably behind Moore Park and ANZ. 

Should we also be mad at cricket? Or just the big bad AFL?
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TimmyJ - 26 Oct 2017 7:09 AM
I'd prefer to see Moore park done first. Would benefit SFC and the rugby codes day to day. 

ANZ will not be oval. There is no need for it. But as a concession they may be able to leverage and upgrade to the SCG. Which I imagine is their end game. The SCG does need some more love and the AFL and cricket should be lobbying for it to be upgraded but where it sits in the pecking order is probably behind Moore Park and ANZ. 

Should we also be mad at cricket? Or just the big bad AFL?

If the SFS goes first then you can guarantee that the ANZ stadium upgrade will be substandard as the SCG trust ensure that the project sucks as much money out of the government as possible.

Homebush first is the only chance Australia has for a major football stadium to be built in the next 20 years.

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How convenient that the SFS was suddenly declared "unsafe" after they wanted to give the Olympic Stadium the bulk of the stadium allocation money.   Knocking down the SFS to make a larger stadium is moronic on so many levels however the elbow patch & old man cricket brigade of the SCG Trust can't bear to see the Olympic Stadium become a decent rectangular stadium.  



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The SCG has rebuilt 3 grandstands over the past decade. They don't need any more funding, they've had theirs, now let others have a go. 
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kaufusi - 27 Oct 2017 10:35 AM
The SCG has rebuilt 3 grandstands over the past decade. They don't need any more funding, they've had theirs, now let others have a go. 

Those stands had $280m spent on them and when you add $65m on Spotless and $30m on Blacktown, AFL/Cricket have had $375m spent on their venues in the last decade.  Meanwhile ANZ $0, SFS $0, and Pirtek $20m in the same period.

Interesting facts from Austadiums on total attendance at sporting events at these stadiums since 2003:-

ANZ Stadium - 17,154,832  
Allianz Stadium - 10,370,869
SCG - 7,991,180
Pirtek Stadium - 2,973,257
Spotless Stadium - 941,246
Blacktown - 61,695
Total = 39,493,079

Approximately 75% of attendance in Sydney in that time has been for the rectangular pitch codes but 95% of the expenditure has been on the AFL/Cricket venues.
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kaufusi - 27 Oct 2017 10:35 AM
The SCG has rebuilt 3 grandstands over the past decade. They don't need any more funding, they've had theirs, now let others have a go. 

This.
The SCG is good as is for the medium term
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Sydney stadiums rebuild starts next year

Allianz Stadium and the SCG in Sydney’s Moore Park.
Allianz Stadium and the SCG in Sydney’s Moore Park.

Sydney’s two biggest sporting stadiums will be knocked down and rebuilt within the next four years as part of Premier Gladys Berejiklian’s $1.8 billion plan to transform the city’s sporting land­scape and end the two-year-long stadium wars.

Sydney’s Allianz Stadium will be demolished next year and ­rebuilt by 2019 and ANZ Stadium knocked down in 2019 and reconfigured by 2021, under an ambitious timeline being pushed by Sports Minister Stuart Ayres that is said to have the backing of Ms Berejiklian.

Under the plan, Allianz, at inner-city Moore Park, would have a capacity of 45,000, and ANZ, at Olympic Park, a capacity of 75,000 — down from 85,000 — but it would be redesigned as a rectangular stadium.

The plan is aimed at raising Sydney’s stadiums to the quality of those recently built in Adelaide and Perth, and the facilities at the Melbourne Cricket Ground and the city’s Docklands.

But the plan, which could be put to cabinet as early as this week, has caused inter­nal consternation, with Treasurer ­Dom­inic Perrottet and Deputy Prem­ier John Barilaro arguing as to why the government should be spending more than $2bn on stadiums when it, like other governments, is under pressure to act on the cost of living.

The government has already spent $300 million building a new Parramatta Stadium in the city’s west.

Infrastructure Minister Andrew Constance is also said to favour rebuilding ANZ only.

The plan is understood to ­involve some State of Origin matches heading interstate while construction takes place. But Sydney would retain hosting rights for the NRL grand final, with Allianz to fill the gap while ANZ is being rebuilt.

The stadiums war has split the football codes with clubs using Allianz, including the popular Sydney FC, and the Australian Rugby Union, pushing hard for an Allianz rebuild and the NRL pushing for ANZ to be built first.

The NRL has set up meetings with ministers in a frantic last-minute bid to get the ANZ proposal up first.

Such has been the force of the NRL campaign that the code’s chief executive, Todd Greenberg, has met ministers not involved in the proposals to urge them to push in cabinet for an ANZ rebuild first.

“I am writing in relation to the NSW Government’s commitment to upgrade Sydney’s stadiums network,” Mr Greenberg has written to ministers.

“Whilst I know this issue does not fall within your portfolio ­responsibilities, I understand the important matter will be discussed in the coming month at ­cabinet.”

The letter points out the ­announcement in April last year by former premier Mike Baird that was “publicly supported by the NRL” involved a permanent rectangular configuration of ANZ at more than 70,000 seats with construction to start before March 2019 and “the refurbishment of the existing Allianz Stadium — with works to commence after the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium is completed, and in any event not before March 2019”.

But Mr Ayres, who is close to several ­people on the Sydney Cricket Ground Trust that runs Allianz Stadium, is understood to have won the Premier’s support on the need to get moving on ­Allianz.

Mr Ayres had always favoured an Allianz rebuild first but was slammed last year after he tried to slide past Mr Baird a plan not to build on the Allianz site, but on a nearby site at Moore Park, a move that would have been controversial, particularly in light of flak the Baird government received for ripping out century-old trees for its CBD light rail project.

Sydney stadiums rebuild starts next year


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Boooo. 

Do the national stadium first. 
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At least it's big enough for World Cup matches which I am still holding out hope on hosting.
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Moronic to do Allianz first (if at all). Bloody union and typical of the self-interest shown by Sydney FC that cares nothing about what's good for the sport and only about what's good for them.
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Kamaryn - 6 Nov 2017 8:38 AM
Moronic to do Allianz first (if at all). Bloody union and typical of the self-interest shown by Sydney FC that cares nothing about what's good for the sport and only about what's good for them.

hahaha forza sydney fc knt

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YoShuuuu - 6 Nov 2017 9:42 AM
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hahaha forza sydney fc knt

:)
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Where is Sydney FC going to play?     
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Average non-finals attendances for Sydney Football Stadium's tenants in their most recently completed season:

Sydney FC: 16,001
Waratahs: 14,500
Sydney Roosters: 14,309
South Sydney: 10,594
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Lovely to see the government is more determined to fix/ re-build already healthy stadiums instead of focusing on real problems 

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marconi101 - 6 Nov 2017 11:18 AM
Lovely to see the government is more determined to fix/ re-build already healthy stadiums instead of focusing on real problems 

Fix the 370 BUS!

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paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 11:08 AM
Average non-finals attendances for Sydney Football Stadium's tenants in their most recently completed season:

Sydney FC: 16,001
Waratahs: 14,500
Sydney Roosters: 14,309
South Sydney: 10,594

Lol didnt realise that. Thats actually pretty impressive. 

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Cynic in me says money will go towards SFS being done first then some of the funding will disappear for SA and we get left with what we have
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What a waste of money.  The Olympic stadium I understand but the Moore Park one? 

What's wrong with it?








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Munrubenmuz - 6 Nov 2017 11:57 AM
What a waste of money.  The Olympic stadium I understand but the Moore Park one? 

What's wrong with it?






It doesn't really need a make over but the rake of the seating needs to be much much higher. 


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Munrubenmuz - 6 Nov 2017 11:57 AM
What a waste of money.  The Olympic stadium I understand but the Moore Park one? 

What's wrong with it?

The roof is a joke. The back of house facilities are ancient (toilets, bars etc. I haven't dealt with it but I bet the broadcast and players' facilities are not up to modern standards). The rake/angle of the seating is too flat, especially behind the goals. Way too big for all the main regular tenants for their regular games as I posted earlier.
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paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 7:39 AM
At least it's big enough for World Cup matches which I am still holding out hope on hosting.

Fair enough, but surely a potential world cup is not enough of a reason to make a stadium 45K? I would have loved to have seen it rebuilt at 30K, which would seem far more sensible given the actual crowds they get at that stadium.

From an A-league point of view, even for the Socceroos, I reckon it's the 25-30,000 seat stadiums that we need. Big stadiums like Suncorp and Allianz kill atmosphere. Hoping the socceroos play a lot of games at the new stadium in Paramatta, it'll be perfect. Then you've got ANZ at 75,000 for the really big matches...

Hopefully at least they design the stadium in a helpful way that it's easy to keep a top tier closed or something and create a good atmosphere with 15,000.


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mattwinter - 6 Nov 2017 1:26 PM
paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 7:39 AM

Fair enough, but surely a potential world cup is not enough of a reason to make a stadium 45K? I would have loved to have seen it rebuilt at 30K, which would seem far more sensible given the actual crowds they get at that stadium.

From an A-league point of view, even for the Socceroos, I reckon it's the 25-30,000 seat stadiums that we need. Big stadiums like Suncorp and Allianz kill atmosphere. Hoping the socceroos play a lot of games at the new stadium in Paramatta, it'll be perfect. Then you've got ANZ at 75,000 for the really big matches...

Hopefully at least they design the stadium in a helpful way that it's easy to keep a top tier closed or something and create a good atmosphere with 15,000.


Looking at the average crowd stats for the tenants I posted you can definitely see that a more modern, smaller venue would be the most benefit, and what I should have said to reflect my own hopes best was that the ideal would be about an AAMI Park sized 25-30k seater but with the ability to upgrade temporarily to World Cup minimum chips group stage size going forwards, something AAMI Park stuffed up royally with the fancy roof.

However, there definitely are ways to build larger venues with the ability to modularly close off excess areas like the new stadium in Atlanta shared by an NFL and MLS team and venues closer to home.
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Fucking unbelievable.

They're gonna knock down a 45k stadium to start building a 45k stadium.


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paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 1:22 PM
Munrubenmuz - 6 Nov 2017 11:57 AM

The roof is a joke. The back of house facilities are ancient (toilets, bars etc. I haven't dealt with it but I bet the broadcast and players' facilities are not up to modern standards). The rake/angle of the seating is too flat, especially behind the goals. Way too big for all the main regular tenants for their regular games as I posted earlier.

Image result for first world problems



Wasting taxpayers money on "up-to-date" unused seats
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Billy the Fish - 6 Nov 2017 1:55 PM
paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 1:22 PM

Image result for first world problems



Wasting taxpayers money on "up-to-date" unused seats

Not mine, I'm Victorian lol

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paladisious - 6 Nov 2017 1:56 PM
Billy the Fish - 6 Nov 2017 1:55 PM

Not mine, I'm Victorian lol

No doubt Eddie's got plans for yours
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