Keep calm. We've had Turnbull, Abbott and Gillard for Prime Ministers. Not that much better here.

This almost definitely means that David Cameron won't get that earldom he has been so eagerly seeking.

He'll be lucky to get a knighthood at this rate

Or perhaps the benefits of EU membership flow to higher educated rather than those without.

But yes the remain = smart v leave = dumb dichotomy is has a certain intuitive appeal to it doesn't it.

And between 20 and 40 : if you're not a socialist at 20 you have no heart. If you're still a socialist at 40 you have no brain.

paladisious

If you read this, the Irish passport just became the most valuable passport in the world

You're very lucky

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Brillant news

Never commented on whether they were right or wrong Russ. Just noted it.

Every Brit I work with is just like WTF have you done??? Several of them are fuming.

They see this as almost entirely swayed by the immigration debate.

:cool:

I've heard the leave campaigners were using Australia as an example of what they could become. Now that's embarrassing for both of us.

P.S. Mentioning Gillard with those 2 is pretty insulting to Gillard who actually got things done as Prime Minister :lol:

So you are a Socialist...:lol: ..why are you ashamed to admit you are one instead speaking in riddles for a change .:lol:
Be proud of what you are for a change and wear it like a badge of honour

Edited by Socawho: 24/6/2016 07:34:52 PM

Yeah, nah. Absolute shocker. Despicable person who was hellbent on gaining/holding onto political power and perfectly happy to fuck over large portions of the electorate and to sell out her ethical and political beliefs to that end.

She reduced the age-limit of children whose single-parents were eligible to receive the payments from 16 to 8.

Disgusting. A lot of people all around the country suffered for that.

She tried to scrap a fuckload of funding for cash-strapped universities. No wonder our universities continue to slip down the rankings and our research output is shithouse.

She also opposed same-sex marriage. Do you seriously believe she actually believed that?

Shocking person and one of the most self-interested and dishonest to have led a political party in Australia in recent history. And that's saying something.

She definitely deserves to be in such illustrious company.

Edited by quickflick: 24/6/2016 07:47:57 PM

on return after 6 years overseas a lot has changed.
Can see why people voted they way they did.

Yeah,nah. Didn't say she was perfect, in fact I can't think of one leader/government in my life that didn't make decisions I didn't agree with but that doesn't mean she should be in those scoundrels' league.

What part of what I posted would suggest I'm a socialist? I'm enjoying your clowning around, please continue.

mcjules

My tone was over-the-top. There was no need for a "yeah, nah" on my part.

I agree you'll never find a perfect leader. But it doesn't mean we can't analyse their actions and try to evaluate how good/bad they were.

The problem with Gillard was two-fold. Firstly, her policies did far more harm than good (scrapping of the single-parent payments, scrapping of university funding and stance on same-sex marriage, for starters).

Secondly, she was a sell-out. Progressive on the outside but conservative (at least in the wrong areas) at the core. Gillard did preciously little and just focused on how moronic Tony Abbott was in order to mask how crap she was and how much of a betrayal her policies were towards Australians (and non-Australians) from disadvantaged backgrounds.

Malcolm Fraser, a Liberal PM, was far more concerned with the welfare of the individual than Gillard was.

This is great. Scotland finally will get their freedom. Ireland will be reunited. We may (but won't) reexamine our position within the Commonwealth.

that wont happen. There a plenty of people who like the status quo and enjoy having a foreign monarch rule over us

:roll:

Yep, it's Queen Lizzy who decides what our taxes are and implements government policy :lol:

You do realise plenty of old timers love the queen and would rather have her as our head of state. Buf you knew that didnt you?

A lot has happened since.

It has, but you know old timers, they would rather the queen then a president despite the fact both of them are purley symbolic

How is that relevant?

I just said that the monarchy has no real power besides rubber stamping what our parliament/senate passes.

I know they dont, just pointing out to tsf that the fact people dont like Change. I hope this move out of the eu doesnt back fire on ukip. I really do

none of above will happen ...there be a border between Ireland and Nrt Ireland, or Nrt Ireland will be come a special zone with in the UK...Scotland will not get a new vote any time soon, and the Scotland will not vote to put a border up between it and England

It's not hard to understand why you don't like the queen.

You rock a Philippines flag and have used Bosnian flag too before.

Would changing the flag, becoming a republic make you sleep better at night?

Why shouldn't old people or even younger people relate to Australia's history with the United Kingdom?

He's as thick as bricks...:lol:

Yep

English want to be English

Not English flavoured Euro

Im filo, my wifes bosnian . And why would changing the flag make me sleep at night better? I actually no about australian history since i studied it in high school