It seems the ever pertinent question "How do Melbourne Victory afford the squad they have" has finally been answered.

https://twitter.com/Brisbane_Roar/status/618963774943309824

The Twitter rumour mills are abuzz with word that the club have made some very interesting payments to offshore bank accounts' with talk about "dodgy butchers and o/s accounts".

Are the self-proclaimed biggest club in Australia also the biggest cheats in Australia? Is Melbourne Victory in trouble? I hope not, after the bad rep the league got following the Perth Glory saga in the media, as well as the Jets and the Roar getting into financial strife and Melbourne City still recovering from being dismissed as a "marketing experiment", this is the last thing Australian football needs.

What's the dodgy butcher a reference to ?

I always enjoy the Twitter spaz's get all worked up almost weekly now about MVFC.

The original source is highly credible "One of your drunk foreign players who knows everyone's payment details told me".

Special people.

You still have to wonder how the club managed to assemble that squad with the same amount of money as the Jets or the Mariners. Cap breaching isn't that farfetched.

#TaximusVictorious

Have to wonder why the Jets and Mariners are failing to match MV.


Although to be fair to CCM they have to get a whole team using the Cap Floor,

whilst MV have 2 Marquees and Archie outside the Cap, so they only need to find 8 starters within the Full Cap.

No you really don't. These players aren't arriving with huge pedigrees, or as the established A League stars they are now. It's easy to make that call in hindsight but the difference between MV and a team like the Jets or the Mariners is the quality of the scouting that took place and the conditions within the squad that allows players to either thrive or to fail.

Look at players like Finkler or FBK, nothing about their football prior to arriving in the A League makes them stand above any other foreign signings, in fact the overwhelming majority wrote Gui off before he even kicked a ball based purely on his resume. It's easy to look back now when they're dominating and wonder how we're fitting them into the cap but without the benefit of hindsight it doesn't look anywhere near as scandalous.

A better question would be how do we manage to keep them together?


Edited by fredsta: 9/7/2015 02:52:45 PM

CCM also can't afford a Guest player or a player being topped-up as a 'Coach'

lol wtf is that Twitter account.

Sick source bro.

-PB

the problem is that accountants dont come under the cap. victory have the calculator messi.

Jets under Tinkler didn't spend full salary cap last season and had no marquee players

This.

It comes down to recruitment.

Don't waste money on duds like Zadkovich etc.

-PB

Who cares about the cap, I just wanna watch good football.

They may not be arriving with huge pedigrees but once they arrive and do well and get re-signed for more money, yet the club still doesn't lose any players without immediate replacements, that's where the questions start coming from.

The fact is if you offer a player $100000 a year to play for Central Coast or Perth or $100000 a year to play for MV, then they will always pick us. There is extra benefit in joining a club that isn't a basket case whilst living in a city that isn't shit.

Very worrying news

You support a marketing exercise, I'd say you have more important things to worry about.

Probably not, if they were dodge they would have secured contracts ages ago for the players instead of in ones and twos over months, surely. I'd also think that knowing what happened to Storm and Glory the Victory management are smart enough to know it's not worth trying.

Occam's razor: Players are just attracted to our club's infrastructure, staff, match day experience and culture, as well as the ability to live in Melbourne.

Ange himself said this year on Fox Sports' Shootout that "there's more to signing at Victory than just money".

:lol: :lol: That's going to take off like 'ganble'. :lol:

LOL great source mate. Pretty much if anyone on your twitter timeline posted that it's worthy of a thread on here.

Even then though people just overlook actual exits in their haste to label a team cheats because they're seemingly too good on paper. People forget that when Finkler re-signed we lost Traore, Troisi, Rogic from the cap and when FBK signed on we'd just lost Leijer and knew that we'd probably be able to push Archie outside of the cap.

shocking if what i've heard is true

It is the rumour mill, what did you hear?

Victory, over the last 2-3 years, have given an object lesson in list-management. It certainly helps that the bloke looking after squad management is both a very knowledgeable football person, AND a fully qualified accountant.

In short - they don't waste money. It's pretty easy to take Milligan and Berisha out of the list, then come up with a very realistic set of salaries that allows you to keep that squad together.

Ganble. That NEVER gets old.

ssh dont you know . Mv are cheating because everyone says we are

This thread is funny....I don't know how Victory fits everyone under the cap either (and don't really care as long as its legal) but I was rolling on the floor at someones suggestion that one of the reasons players want to play at Victory is because they get to live in Melbourne ...... seriously ????

Yeah everyone loves getting up to cold rainy 5 C degrees every mornings for six months of the year.
I love visiting Melbourne...it is truly an interesting city ..... only place you can have three different seasons in the one day.

Did you see any of FBK's interviews around the time he re-signed or after the Grand Final?

I think you're kidding yourself if you don't think clubs in Melbourne and Sydney are more attractive destinations for players than the other cities tbh, especially if you're looking at the move from an international perspective.

Yeah from an International perspective at least, Sydney and Melbourne are easily the most desirable/renowned cities to come to

I live in Brisbane so i like it enough but in no way is it an attractive enough city that living there could be considered one of the perks for signing with the local club.

And if the weather is really going to play a significant effect on a players decision to sign, then the prospect of playing Football in Brisbane's summer is a hell of a lot worse than a few mildly cold mornings in Melbourne's winter.

Drop the "the"

With regard to import players, I've never heard one state a preference as to where they go - it's just "are there any opportunities in Australia?"

a few good bites...thanks for coming

You can't put up a stupid post and pretend you are trolling when everyone calls you out for talking shit.

I think you are right and wrong. Ive spent a fair bit of time throughout Europe, and have found trends in terms of Brisbane/other cities reputations. Germans fucking love Brisbane/SEQ and Adelaide and arent that high on Melbourne or Sydney in my experience. Similar with the Dutch. British people were all about Perf/Syd/Melb. Italians and Greeks love Syd and Melb. Obv generalising but were a few obs I made.

Some people literally dont care and think Aus is a big beach covered in Kangaroos and Koalas and Sydney is maybe the only place they know, predominantly due to the recency of the Olympics.

Melbourne is one of those cities that has a reasonable reputation, but Victorians cant imagine it as anything less than it being the greatest place on the planet, like a Skip version of native New Yorkers.

This is pathetic :lol:

Good. Without them and their belgian neighbours, the beer cafes in the city wouldn't be anywhere near as good.

Biggest Oktoberfest celebrations outside of Germany as well haha