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An almost impossible question to answer, why would you? The statements coming out of the club owners don't quite add up with Kingsman appearing to have done a good job sweeping up the mess after Cobbs short but ultimately disruptive reign.

Really the only blot on Kingsman's time is the almost total lack of sponsors for this season no front of shirt, no sponsors on the shorts, no sponsor on the shoulder, and a back of shirt sponsor that is kingsman's car rental company. I don't know what the commercials are but that represents a loss of at least $1m in revenues which if I were the owners I'd be a bit pissy about .... but when you have the champions SFC running with a clean shirt and the Eels going through a season without one then maybe it's not all that easy? But if that's the reason some honesty is required and they should come out and say it as fans smell BS on this move and don't like it - a CEO that gets things done has been good for this club.

Where to next? Former CEOs are all out of the question with the exception of David Pourre. Whether he would want to come back (or even could come back given his CEO role at a software start up company) is debatable. There's few with the skills in the local market and I really struggle to believe anyone with the necessary skills and experience would relocate to brisbane and take such risks.

There's more to this than meets the eye and no doubt things will start to fall out of the woodwork as time goes by. The next appointment is crucial, the only one that can save the bakries from an all out revolt is probably the return of David Pourre, and soon - the longer this goes on the worse suspicions something else is going on will get.

The bakries remain a conundrum, willing to lose $3-$4m each season and with no appetite to sell seemingly, supporters are stuck with them and on one hand grateful for the investment but continuously perplexed at the slack attitude towards payments and a revolving door on CEO's.

Who'd be a football supporter hey.
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Three different reasons doing teh rounds:

(1) A fall out with John Aloisi over Ross's behavior pre-match on Friday

(2) A failure to secure any sponsorship for the new season

(3) The Bakries intend to drop a few more million in and want a CEO they trust in teh hot seat.

My Option 4 would be the Bakries get bored without a crisis in their play-thing

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(1) A fall out with John Aloisi over Ross's behavior pre-match on Friday



I believe he resigned because Ross Aloisi managed to successfully say a word of more than three syllables.
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FIFA reaches agreement to help unpaid players

By Reuters

43 minutes agoUpdated 41 minutes ago

By Brian Homewood

ZURICH, Oct 19 (Reuters) - FIFA has reached an agreement that will help players leave their clubs when they do not get paid on time.

"It was an issue that was stewing for a long, long time and they couldn't come to an agreement, but because of our impetus they've reached one," Victor Montagliani, head of FIFA's stakeholders committee, told reporters on Thursday.

"We all like to get paid...it's an employment labour issue and to me that's very important."

Montagliani said the agreement also involved the European Club Association (ECA), the world players' union FIFPro and the World Leagues Forum, which represents major domestic soccer leagues.

FIFA said that, in return, FIFPro had agreed to withdraw a legal complaint it made at the European Commission against the transfer system two years ago.

“We’ve had constructive talks with FIFA, but it’s premature to discuss what might happen next regarding our legal complaint against the transfer system, or any prospective deal until we are satisfied with the proposals put forth,” FIFPro said in a statement.

FIFPro says players can only make a complaint against their club after three months without being paid and can wait for up to two years for a decision from FIFA's dispute resolution chamber.

The new agreement would make it much easier for a player who has not been paid his wages to leave a club, FIFA said, although it could not give precise details until the agreement is finalised, which is likely by March.

FIFPro's complaint at the European Commission two years ago was based on the argument that the transfer system was uncompetitive and unjustified.

The transfer system is governed by FIFA statutes and is based on an informal agreement between FIFA, UEFA and the EC in 2001.

In a survey conducted last year among 14,000 players in 54 countries, FIFpro found that four in 10 had experienced late payment at some stage in the previous two years. (Writing by Brian Homewood, editing by Ed Osmond)
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Daniel McBreen column: Brisbane Roar problems remind me of Central Coast Mariners days

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Brisbane Roar coach John AloisiSource: AAP

BRISBANE Roar’s players need to stick together over the coming months if they want to keep their season alive amidst off-field troubles.

Unpaid wages, poor training conditions, uncertainty within the club’s offices – it’s a disgraceful environment for a professional group to be working within, but, for now, this is their reality and they have to make the most of it.

I know, because the situation reminds me of what my Central Mariners cohort went through a few years ago. We were so galvanised by the club’s off-field troubles, we bonded, became the tightest of groups and went on and claimed the club’s one and only grand final win.

But it’s a lot easier said than done, trust me.

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I read this week that sacked Brisbane Roar managing director Mark Kingsman paid wages out of his own pocketbefore the Bakrie Group gave him his marching orders.

Brisbane Roar chairman Rahim Soekasah (left) talks to players during Brisbane Roar training.
Brisbane Roar chairman Rahim Soekasah (left) talks to players during Brisbane Roar training.Source: AAP

It’s a difficult situation for the club, fans and everyone involved – all the way to office staff. You hear rumours that they’re so understaffed, so it becomes a patchwork of people trying to get work done, which makes it even more difficult.

Simply, Brisbane, particularly with their core of senior players, need to divorce themselves from that – it’s the only way to get through training and to keep trying to get results for the fans by controlling the one thing you can, and that’s performances on the park.

But, there are major challenges.

At the Mariners, it was similar.

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What happens when your teammate doesn’t have the money to pay his mortgage or rent, or when a younger teammate comes to the senior boys stressing out, looking for advice because the landlord is now knocking on their door, threatening to throw them out, over missed payments because the club hasn’t been paying them?

In any field, if you’re not happy, it drags into workplace.

Especially in sport, if you’re having a bad time off the park, you could have a couple of bad training sessions and then, all of a sudden, you can get into a form slump.

Brisbane Roar chairman Rahim Soekasah watches Roar training at Ballymore in Brisbane, Tuesday
Brisbane Roar chairman Rahim Soekasah watches Roar training at Ballymore in Brisbane, TuesdaySource: AAP

The Mariners is proof it can be overcome: under Graham Arnold, we had an ‘us against the world’ mentality. We disassociated ourselves from the stuff off the park.

That was Arnie’s advice, saying – ‘you guys can do the job on the park and everything will fall into place, let us worry about stuff off the park’.

And that, he did.

Massimo Maccarone of the Roar in action during Brisbane Roar training at Ballymore
Massimo Maccarone of the Roar in action during Brisbane Roar training at BallymoreSource: AAP

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He was giving money to the younger guys to pay rent.

I even heard rumours he was giving groundsmen petrol money for the lawnmower so we could have the best possible surface to train. He would do anything to make the guys not worry off the pitch and concentrate on the pitch.

Luckily for us, Arnie put his hand in his pocket, and the PFA eventually came to the table.

I also sympathise with the Roar players on their training conditions; I was up there a few weeks ago, it’s pretty ordinary. Like when I arrived on the Central Coast, the promise of a new pitch is still a little while away.

Graham Arnold addresses his Mariners squad.
Graham Arnold addresses his Mariners squad.Source: News Limited

In my first year at Gosford, we had a training base. Previously, the boys would get a text in the morning telling them where they were training – and it could be from Central Coast to Knox Grammar in Sydney. That came to a head when Arnold had a clause in his deal where he could leave if the facilities weren’t ready by a certain date.

But – adversity can sure lead to success, still.

The year we won the Premiership we never trained on a full pitch – we only had a three-quarters sized field, and only trained on the main stadium once in a blue moon.

To be fair, it is pretty remarkable what you can do with the right mindset and right bunch of guys, so the challenge for the Roar boys is to try take a leaf out of that.

Graham Arnold runs a session at North Sydney Oval.
Graham Arnold runs a session at North Sydney Oval.Source: News Limited

Looking back on it now with the boys, we can laugh. It says a lot about the group that we all stay in touch, and that we got through it together. I had spent two years in Romania previously so I used to joke – ‘It’s all good boys, I’ve done this before, in a foreign place and here we’re all together in a nice lifestyle’. You learn you can’t control everything as much as you would like, and looking back we say they were really great times because we bonded.

We can now sit and laugh at that. But it was stressful at the time.

In a professional environment, what happened to us, and what’s happening at Brisbane, should not happen. It is disgraceful. But, the challenge for all of John Aloisi’s staff and players is to remain the professional ones. There’s no point sitting around and crying. Usually through adversity people come out stronger.

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FullBack4 - 17 Oct 2017 8:34 AM
Three different reasons doing teh rounds:

(1) A fall out with John Aloisi over Ross's behavior pre-match on Friday

(2) A failure to secure any sponsorship for the new season

(3) The Bakries intend to drop a few more million in and want a CEO they trust in teh hot seat.

My Option 4 would be the Bakries get bored without a crisis in their play-thing

(4) The owners aren't happy that he was paying the player's wages because wages are paid when the owners say they will be paid!  This would tie in with previous rumours of owners (of various teams) wanting to put pressure on the FFA regarding the voting situation.  FFA can't afford to take over a single license, so owners have a big opportunity to put pressure on them by messing with the finances, etc.
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@ Benjamin

I think there's something in what you say - but I don't think it's over payments, this time everyone's been paid but it looks like things were unraveling behind the scenes which the loss of $1.5m in sponsorship from last year would accelerate.

The interesting bit was the bitch-slapping the bakries gave the ffa midweek, Roar were apparently seen as being "too soft" in their stance and that certainly corrected it, it was both unnecessary and unexpected and I don't think the message was meant for the ffa but a certain someone in Adelaide lol
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Benjamin - 20 Oct 2017 12:48 PM
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(4) The owners aren't happy that he was paying the player's wages because wages are paid when the owners say they will be paid!  This would tie in with previous rumours of owners (of various teams) wanting to put pressure on the FFA regarding the voting situation.  FFA can't afford to take over a single license, so owners have a big opportunity to put pressure on them by messing with the finances, etc.

Are there really players wages outstanding, I keep reading it in articles and they've always turned out to eb true in the past??

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FullBack4 - 20 Oct 2017 6:07 PM
Benjamin - 20 Oct 2017 12:48 PM

Are there really players wages outstanding, I keep reading it in articles and they've always turned out to eb true in the past??

Kingsman told AAP he reached into his own pocket five times to pay the wages of staff and players, and he’s considering legal action after being fired on Monday afternoon by the Bakrie Group -


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This thread is an important Historical Document, charting and referencing the longest running Soap Opera the A-League has ever produced.

Needs some updating, as it looks like it's about to kick off again.

Kingsman told AAP he submitted a three-year, $4 million plan to make the Roar self-sustainable in February but didn’t even get a response.




 

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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Brisbane Roar to take legal action against former director Mark Kingsman over alleged unpaid sponsorship money

BRISBANE Roar are set to take legal action against the club’s former managing director Mark Kingsman over alleged unpaid sponsorship money.

However, Kingsman will counter by taking the club to court over $100,000 he says he is owed.

The Roar announced that Luxury Paints was returning to the club as a platinum partner and back-of-shirt sponsor.

Since the start of the season, East Coast Car Rentals, the company run by Kingsman, has been the sponsor on back of the club’s jersey.

However, that arrangement was seemingly always on borrowed time after Kingsman was sacked by the Roar on October 16.

“Brisbane Roar has ceased its sponsorship with East Coast Car Rentals immediately,” said David Pourre, the man who replaced Kingsman as Roar managing director

“The matter is with our lawyers. I can’t comment any further.”

More frustration for Roar fans ... (AAP Image/Glenn Hunt)

It’s understood the Roar will chase $100,000 worth of sponsorship from East Coast Car Rentals.

But Kingsman is claiming to be owed the same amount, which includes his termination pay.

Kingsman said that as far as he was concerned, East Coast Car Rentals sponsorship agreement ended the day he was sacked by the club, despite the company’s logo having remained on the back of Roar shirts.

“There was no way I was going to carry on with that — my sponsorship lasted all of 10 days,” said Kingsman, who also claimed Pourre had not been in contact with him.

“The way they have gone about their business is very poor.

“I’ve still got personal belongings in their office that have been returned to me.”

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The Luxury Paints partnership deal — which includes back-of-shirt sponsorship of the Roar’s W-League team — is cemented until the end of the season and is likely to extend for a further two years.

Luxury Paints owner Claude Baradel, previously a Roar shareholder, was thrilled to again be involved with the club.

“Our family has proudly supported the Brisbane Roar and football in Queensland for many years now and we are delighted to return to this successful club,” Baradel said.

The last-placed Roar host Melbourne City on Friday night. Round seven starts on Thursday in Gosford with Central Coast Mariners taking on an Adelaide United side desperate to avoid a fourth successive defeat.



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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Waz - 20 Oct 2017 1:07 PM
@ Benjamin I think there's something in what you say - but I don't think it's over payments, this time everyone's been paid but it looks like things were unraveling behind the scenes which the loss of $1.5m in sponsorship from last year would accelerate. The interesting bit was the bitch-slapping the bakries gave the ffa midweek, Roar were apparently seen as being "too soft" in their stance and that certainly corrected it, it was both unnecessary and unexpected and I don't think the message was meant for the ffa but a certain someone in Adelaide lol

Not sure how much the Sponsorship was an issue

There have also been numerous off-field issues casting a pall over the Roar this season. Disagreements between Aloisi and former Managing Director, Mark Kingsman, led to Kingsman’s sacking earlier this year, with outsourced medical and conditioning departments a source of major concern.

Adding to disorganisation surrounding the Roar, Brisbane have been nomadic this season without an official training ground, and have already been forced to train in the surrounding Brisbane suburbs of Ballymore, Northgate, Robina and Yeronga.



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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Craig Moore now blaming the players that Aloisi chose

and Khalfalla putting the boot in as well

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league/brisbane-roar/underperforming-brisbane-roar-players-warned-they-are-fighting-for-the-careers-at-the-club/news-story/ffab6dec286939a22529b1ec5e4fb47c?from=rss-basic



Underperforming Brisbane Roar players warned they are fighting for the careers at the club

BRISBANE Roar’s shocking A-League season has left most of the squad playing for their careers.

Of the club’s first-team squad, 17 players are coming off contract, with Roar football director Craig Moore in no hurry to re-sign any of them such is Brisbane’s poor form.

Monday night’s 3-0 loss to Sydney FC was the Roar’s fourth successive defeat at home and their eighth from 15 matches this season.

Despite having last month received the backing of the Roar board, Brisbane coach John Aloisi remains under pressure.

Veteran Massimo Maccarone is unlikely to stick around. (AAP Image/Glenn Hunt)

Regardless of whether Aloisi is in charge next season, a player clean-out is on the cards.

The 17 players whose contract expire at the end of the season are skipper Matt McKay, marquee pair Massimo Maccarone and Brett Holman, and fellow veterans Fahid Ben Khalfallah, Jade North and Michael Theo.

Also soon to be off contract are defenders Corey Brown, Jack Hingert, Connor O’Toole and Daniel Bowles, midfielders Mitchell Oxborrow and Jacob Pepper, attackers Peter Skapetis, Nick D’Agostino and Corey Gameiro, goalkeeper Jamie Young and utility Ivan Franjic.

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“Between now and the end of the season we’ll be reassessing a lot of things at this football club.” Moore said.

“It’s clear that a lot of players are playing for their careers. It’s up to them to show how much they desire to stay at Brisbane Roar.”

Left-back Brown — the club’s reigning player of the year — is understood to be in talks with Melbourne Victory.

Right-back Hingert will not have been happy to be dropped on Monday night but he had a poor game in Roar’s 2-0 loss to Western Sydney last Friday night.

Corey Brown could be on his way to Melbourne. (AAP Image/Glenn Hunt)

From the older brigade, only Maccarone and Ben Khalfallah have shown sufficient form to earn new deals, but at 38 and 35 respectively, neither are guaranteed to be in Brisbane next season.

Of the others, Bowles, O’Toole, Franjic and Young would have the best chances of signing new Roar deals.

Off the field the Roar have lost general manager Brendon Boss, who has Football Queensland’s new football operations boss.

FQ has also appointed former chief operating officer Richard Griffiths as its new CEO, replacing the retiring Geoff Foster.




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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 10 Jan 2018 11:18 AM
Craig Moore now blaming the players that Aloisi chose

and Khalfalla putting the boot in as well

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league/brisbane-roar/underperforming-brisbane-roar-players-warned-they-are-fighting-for-the-careers-at-the-club/news-story/ffab6dec286939a22529b1ec5e4fb47c?from=rss-basic



Underperforming Brisbane Roar players warned they are fighting for the careers at the club

BRISBANE Roar’s shocking A-League season has left most of the squad playing for their careers.

Of the club’s first-team squad, 17 players are coming off contract, with Roar football director Craig Moore in no hurry to re-sign any of them such is Brisbane’s poor form.

Monday night’s 3-0 loss to Sydney FC was the Roar’s fourth successive defeat at home and their eighth from 15 matches this season.

Despite having last month received the backing of the Roar board, Brisbane coach John Aloisi remains under pressure.

Veteran Massimo Maccarone is unlikely to stick around. (AAP Image/Glenn Hunt)

Regardless of whether Aloisi is in charge next season, a player clean-out is on the cards.

The 17 players whose contract expire at the end of the season are skipper Matt McKay, marquee pair Massimo Maccarone and Brett Holman, and fellow veterans Fahid Ben Khalfallah, Jade North and Michael Theo.

Also soon to be off contract are defenders Corey Brown, Jack Hingert, Connor O’Toole and Daniel Bowles, midfielders Mitchell Oxborrow and Jacob Pepper, attackers Peter Skapetis, Nick D’Agostino and Corey Gameiro, goalkeeper Jamie Young and utility Ivan Franjic.

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“Between now and the end of the season we’ll be reassessing a lot of things at this football club.” Moore said.

“It’s clear that a lot of players are playing for their careers. It’s up to them to show how much they desire to stay at Brisbane Roar.”

Left-back Brown — the club’s reigning player of the year — is understood to be in talks with Melbourne Victory.

Right-back Hingert will not have been happy to be dropped on Monday night but he had a poor game in Roar’s 2-0 loss to Western Sydney last Friday night.

Corey Brown could be on his way to Melbourne. (AAP Image/Glenn Hunt)

From the older brigade, only Maccarone and Ben Khalfallah have shown sufficient form to earn new deals, but at 38 and 35 respectively, neither are guaranteed to be in Brisbane next season.

Of the others, Bowles, O’Toole, Franjic and Young would have the best chances of signing new Roar deals.

Off the field the Roar have lost general manager Brendon Boss, who has Football Queensland’s new football operations boss.

FQ has also appointed former chief operating officer Richard Griffiths as its new CEO, replacing the retiring Geoff Foster.



FBK's honesty is refreshing. Why shouldn't a player be able to say "That was very poor defending." It was obvious to everyone who saw it. The culture of "No one did anything wrong, we just happened to lose 3-0" is what was around when Ange arrived, when no matter what occurred in the game, the 'in-crowd' were guaranteed their spot next week.

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At the end of the day this all rests on Aloisi. He was responsible for not re-signing players like Thomas Broich and letting someone like MaClaren go without a fight. Maybe you can argue MaClaren was going to head off anyway but in the case of Broich there is no excuse. In any case I am not so worried that Brisbane didn't re-sign Broich but he would have been a very cheap signing and you didn't replace him with anyone of better value. The A-league is pretty physical and you can't expect a team to perform when almost every player could enrol in Dads army. The two shining lights of Brisbane have been Jamie Young and FBK. In the circumstances FBK has had a good season and picked up numerous man of the match awards. A model professional. 







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RBBAnonymous - 10 Jan 2018 11:54 AM
At the end of the day this all rests on Aloisi. He was responsible for not re-signing players like Thomas Broich and letting someone like MaClaren go without a fight. Maybe you can argue MaClaren was going to head off anyway but in the case of Broich there is no excuse. In any case I am not so worried that Brisbane didn't re-sign Broich but he would have been a very cheap signing and you didn't replace him with anyone of better value. The A-league is pretty physical and you can't expect a team to perform when almost every player could enrol in Dads army. The two shining lights of Brisbane have been Jamie Young and FBK. In the circumstances FBK has had a good season and picked up numerous man of the match awards. A model professional. 

Did you say Dad's Army?

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clockwork orange - 10 Jan 2018 11:43 AM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 10 Jan 2018 11:18 AM

FBK's honesty is refreshing. Why shouldn't a player be able to say "That was very poor defending." It was obvious to everyone who saw it. The culture of "No one did anything wrong, we just happened to lose 3-0" is what was around when Ange arrived, when no matter what occurred in the game, the 'in-crowd' were guaranteed their spot next week.
resign as a priority Young

resign the following players on similar but not improved contracts minimium 2 years, as they are not worth losing to other teams.  
 Corey Brown,
 Jack Hingert,
Connor O’Toole
Daniel Bowles,
Mitchell Oxborrow
Jacob Pepper,
Peter Skapetis,
Matt McKay

give Gamero & Ivan Franjic one more season to prove they have the durability to play on.

let Nick D’Agostino, Massimo Maccarone, Brett Holman, Fahid Ben Khalfallah, Jade North and Michael Theo  all walk,  they are probably eating up a massive chunk of the Cap

Bring in some fresh players, main areas to build would be a striker and playmaker of good ages (under 30)

Our defence has been poor but i think we have enough quality there,  maybe a change in the assistant coaching department could help,  perhaps Haden fox or chipperfield?


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I'm sorry but If McKay gets another contract I'm done. 



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@ RBB

In hindsight I recon Broich was the player to resolve the confusion created by the coaches and translate it into something the players could execute. There’s nothing wrong with the talent available to Aloisi (apart from injury and fitness which he is accountable for)

But Broich was never going to play on, he limited through last season literally, and his winter ankle operation meant he was on crutches until well after preseason started and do at best wouldn’t have been fit to play until
Christmas but as it turned out he needed a second operation and is still unfit to play even today so had he been re-signed he would have been just another injury.

But Aloisi handled it badly. And failed to recognise the loss of a leader and replace that quality.
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Toffees_or_Roar - 10 Jan 2018 12:04 PM
clockwork orange - 10 Jan 2018 11:43 AM
resign as a priority Young

resign the following players on similar but not improved contracts minimium 2 years, as they are not worth losing to other teams.  
 Corey Brown,
 Jack Hingert,
Connor O’Toole
Daniel Bowles,
Mitchell Oxborrow
Jacob Pepper,
Peter Skapetis,
Matt McKay




So you'd resign 8 players that would not make the first team at most clubs?

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clockwork orange - 10 Jan 2018 12:14 PM
Toffees_or_Roar - 10 Jan 2018 12:04 PM

So you'd resign 8 players that would not make the first team at most clubs?

wake up to yourself ,

Most of those players would make the first 11 at most a league clubs, but despite that it is a squad of 25, all would do a job off the bench if better players came in..  it is also unlikely that you could replace these 8 players with anyone better under the Aleague cap setup...
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Toffees_or_Roar - 10 Jan 2018 12:18 PM
clockwork orange - 10 Jan 2018 12:14 PM

wake up to yourself ,

Most of those players would make the first 11 at most a league clubs, but despite that it is a squad of 25, all would do a job off the bench if better players came in..  it is also unlikely that you could replace these 8 players with anyone better under the Aleague cap setup...

NO disrespect to you personally but I wouldn't take a single player there at Adelaide and our squad is razor thin full of kids
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Well Corey Brown is in contract negotiations with Victory so that says something ..?
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Waz - 10 Jan 2018 1:05 PM
Well Corey Brown is in contract negotiations with Victory so that says something ..?

I considered the fullback options but probably wouldn't choose any over Garruccio, Elrich, Marrone and Strain
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Waz - 10 Jan 2018 1:05 PM
Well Corey Brown is in contract negotiations with Victory so that says something ..?

He wants out ?

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Corey will wanna be good enough to start coz he will never get fucking subbed on.

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Toffees_or_Roar - 10 Jan 2018 12:18 PM
clockwork orange - 10 Jan 2018 12:14 PM

wake up to yourself ,

Most of those players would make the first 11 at most a league clubs, but despite that it is a squad of 25, all would do a job off the bench if better players came in..  it is also unlikely that you could replace these 8 players with anyone better under the Aleague cap setup...

don't think so. Skapetis is state league level as is Oxborrow. The rest are squad makeup players.including Matty Mackay now days.
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@ RobA

Skapetis having been signed to an EPL club not so long ago is definitely more than State League level. His problem is not ability but attitude and motivation, if anyone can fix that he’s gone from Australia once again. I’m not sure which coach in the HAL has the ability to do that - Ernie possibly?
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