Difference being that Leckie didn't miss sitters literally every time he laced up his boots.

I don't like either player. I do not like a player only skill is that they are quick and just knock the ball behind the defender and run pass them. which is why i prefered people like kruse, oar, burns and borello is they actually got some footwork to beat a defender. Emittedly leckie is finally getting these skills, Mabil has a long way to go.

I've always considered Leckie a far more complete player than flogs like Danning ect who were just pace. However, I see your point.

I like players who can change it up a bit, use that pace when playing off the last man, but can still create chances when they're coming through from midfield.

Mabil can't even get on the park at Midget land. Should have at least been loaned back to United.

Made his debut last night \:d/

He's just been bulking up to adapt to the Danish game

What does he weigh now, 45kg ?

And a half bruh #gainzzzzzz

:lol: True

Bulking before he shreds for Stereo

Just my opinion but i find Mabil has got more potential as a winger than Leckie, plus he is better in the 1v1s which is crucial.

Good to see him get his first taste of first team football in Europe.

Mail only just made his debut. His time will come, in the meantime he should be in the Olyroos only.

Amini is playing more regularly and can't get a game for the socceroos, so Mabil shouldn't either yet.

He's only been playing regularly for the last few months.

Mabil has been playing pretty much every week for at least the past year.

Bump.

Squad for upcoming World cup qualifiers against Kyrgyzstan and Bangladesh.

Nathan Burns, FC Tokyo, Japan
Tim Cahill, Shanghai Greenland Shenhua FC, China PR
Alex Cisak (gk), Leyton Orient FC, England
Jason Davidson, Huddersfield Town AFC, England
Adam Federici (gk), AFC Bournemouth, England
Mile Jedinak, Crystal Palace, England
Tomi Juric, Roda JC Kerkrade, Netherlands
Mathew Leckie, FC Ingolstadt 04, Germany
Massimo Luongo, Queens Park Rangers FC, England
Ryan McGowan, Dundee United, Scotland
Matt McKay, Brisbane Roar, Australia
James Meredith, Bradford City A.F.C. , England
Mark Milligan, Baniyas SC, United Arab Emirates
Aaron Mooy, Melbourne City FC, Australia
Tommy Oar, Ipswich Town FC, England
Josh Risdon, Perth Glory, Australia
Tom Rogic, Celtic FC, Scotland
Mat Ryan (gk), Valencia CF, Spain
Trent Sainsbury, P.E.C. Zwolle, Netherlands
Matt Spiranovic, Hangzhou Greentown FC, China PR
James Troisi, Al Ittihad FC, Saudi Arabia
Alex Wilkinson, Jeonbuk Hyundai FC, Korea Republic
Bailey Wright, Preston North End, England

What I would like to see:



Subs:

Federici, Cisak, McGowan, Meredith, Wilkinson, Wright, Luongo, McKay, Mooy, Oar, Rogic, Juric.

Get back to playing our high aggressive press that we did so well in the Asian cup particularly with Leckie, Troisi, Milligan and Burns hounding the opposition.

Sainsbury back into the team to provide some much needed pace at centre back.

Leaves us with lots of options on the bench depending on how each game goes. Guys like Luongo, Moor, Oar, Rogic and Juric can all make a difference off the bench. Mooy, Rogic and Luongo are not as good at BPO as Milligan, Leckie, Troisi etc IMO.

Ideally we would play Kruse instead of Burns but he's all we've got. I would've liked Oar in there as his crossing is the best we have which with Cahill on is vital, but he has not played much recently and is recovering from a concussion so not sure in what shape he is.

Our full backs are still complete utter trash but lets see what Risdon can do. I think Behich is our best left back and that is saying something, but alas he has not been selected again.

My concern is that Ange will go again with the whole 4-4-2 diamond with Leckie up front in the middle and that is just not working IMO.

Agreed. I hope Ange never touches it again.
The 4-4-2 diamond thing works well against utter shite like Bangladesh, but no one else. In fact, we'd be better off playing our same 4-3-3 even against the weaker teams to make our players comfortable in the system

Another thing. If we're gonna call up donkeys like McGowan and Risdon for Right back I would've preferred Chris Herd who has played a fair bit there recently for his club and has performed pretty well in the few chances he has had with the national team.

IMO he has more potential than the other two.

Bumping this.

We need to start talking about football again.

Looks like Spira is out, Jedinak and Oar and Burns are pretty short of a gallop and Ryan is probably still injured I suspect as he has not even made the bench for Valencia. In Oar's defence he is the only player who can cross properly so would have him in there with Cahill.

So I would hope for:



Risdon ewww. But seriously McGowan is no better. Should be Chris Herd IMO until Rhys Wiliams gets fit.

No more of the 4-4-2 diamond shit. Its not 1999. Leckie is a winger FFS.

Yep, serious problem at right back, but keen to see how Risdon goes. The Kyrgz did trouble us last time but I can't see the same thing happening at home. Meredith should be winning his first cap also.

Not sure about Oar either. If he's playing Ange ball he needs to be playing central. His crossing is terrible. I'd play Troisi on the left.

Worth noting Maty Ryan didn't train yesterday either, just a stroll up and down the track apparently.



Juric needs to start over Cahill. Bring on Timmy if we're in trouble.

I know I've left out Jedinak, Luongo, Burns, etc, but we need to play players who have constantly been playing.

Trust me when I say that Oar is the only player we have who can cross. And that is saying something.

We really really need to sort out this LB issue and quickly

Seriously? I think he's so ridiculously inconsistent with his crossing. Many of them just go nowhere.

God we miss the days when Wilkshire and Emerton averaged an assist between them per game.

Thats why I said "and that is saying something"

The other options are Leckie, Burns, Davidson and the right back revolving door. Leckie is good getting in behind and crossing along the ground with the outside of his boot that he did in the Asian cup, but thats about it.

Yep missed that, was just in shock at seeing a compliment about Oar's crossing :lol:

I prided myself on my crossing as a left back and sometimes I think I reckon I could do a better job at it than those in the A-league and the socceroos. We are so bad at it. :lol:

Yeah, I'm the same with through balls and making runs in behind. Kills my life that HAL teams are awful at it. O'Donovan, to his credit at least makes good runs.

As for LB crossing, Jamieson would be our best I reckon.

hae you actually seen Oar play? Its the only reason he got a gig in England even McCarthy came out and said the boy can whip the ball quite well which will be handy for us..

If you think Oar is a good crosser, you don't watch enough non-Australian football.

LOL

looks like Leckie wont make it. Put Rogic more forward I say.

----------------------------Ryan--------------------------------
Risdon---------Sains---------wright-----------Davidson
---------------------------Jedinak----------------------------
---------Luongo-----------------------------Mooy----------
Burns--------------------------------------------------Rogic
-----------------------------Juric-----------------------------

I'd say that restricts his influence too much.