TheSelectFew should be banned from this forum. Too often he is allowed to post hateful, vitriolic, disdainful, sarcastic and just plain venomous posts. Always playing the man and rarely the ball.

Although I'm doubtful, feel free to jump in if you think you can add anything of substance.

At least you all agree someone should be banned.
The question is who :)

I honestly believe he gave it his best shot - but he's outgunned (sorry) in the senate and wouldn't have had a chance of getting any legislation through. Once kiddies are being shot in their classes and the public STILL doesn't get behind a cause, you know a country is f*cked.

With regard to licensed gun ownership - I'm with Jim Jeffries. It's a lovely thought that the responsible members of society should be allowed to keep their weapons - but society is messed up and we have to dumb everything down to the lowest common denominator, which is pretty f*cking low.

Thanks for linking.

I found this page defining a 'mass shooting' very interesting. http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Main_Page

Yeah he gave it his best shot but what can you do with all those gun toting redneck republicans blocking progress.

The sad thing is that the gun debate in the USA isn't actually as polarised as is presented. A vast majority of americans support things like background checks etc.

It is the NRA that prevents any of this happening through lobbying. The problem is that voter turnout is low in the primaries, so only those most passionate (eg "fundamentalist") in outlook bother voting.

So you don't get policies for the centre, you get them for the extremes that vote. Hence why I am glad we have compulsory voting.

Adler ban lifted thanks to a 5 shot capacity change (lol limiters).

Common sense prevails.

-PB

Common sense prevails.

Seems the Adler may be a Cat D weapon after all.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/nsw-premier-mike-bairds-decision-to-remove-his-police-minister-proves-gamechanger-in-national-adler-debate/news-story/1d1735e8a7d1031d77db2176bdd78eec?nk=e238c1fed4637db2ec13390c0e0dd12c-1480854919

AUSTRALIA’S import ban on the lever-action Adler A110 shotgun can be lifted next year with a national agreement on a new D licence, limiting it to a handful of professional shooters.

The deal will act as a de facto ban, with the gun only able to be imported and owned by limited to a tiny number of professional shooters who specialise in pest and feral animal control on a D licence.

Only for a 7 shot version lol

5 shot will remain in an easy catergory.

-PB

That was never the argument.

What was then?

-PB

That a 8 shot shotgun should be available to Cat A shooters.

Moving the goal posts, are we?

Learn to read.

From the previous page I wrote.  

"Restricting 7000 pre-ordered shotguns with an ability to shoot 8 rounds in 8 seconds that were to be sold to gun owners holding the least restrictive and easiest available class of gun license is a good thing."

And yet if this manages to pass, there will still be firearms capable of doing exactly that still in Category A.

Thus all this mountains out of molehills would have achieved nothing in the greater scheme.

-PB

"That is likely to trigger calls for a taxpayer-funded national buyback of thousands of retrofitted Adler shotguns already in the country that will be rendered illegal if they have a magazine capacity of more than five."

Yeah that's only talking about Adlers lol.

Nothing to do with other firearms with capacity greater than 5.

Which I say again, the logical is retarded.

All this to take of two whole rounds out of the chamber lol.

-PB